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alaskayorkie 07-25-2011 05:30 PM
So glad he's home! Did you tell him he worried us SICK?! :p

I think he's gonna be happier than ever once he adjusts to the new food!

aproctor 07-25-2011 05:31 PM
I am just seeing this and I am sorry for what you went through and I am happy he is now home with you!!!!
It is so hard to teach others that they can't feed that cute, big~eyed, I am hungry look on our little one's faces and even though they seem to understand I still have to tell them each time we visit so I know how hard it is.

Good luck and I pray that all continues to go well for him!! :)

Jinger 07-25-2011 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 3611651)
It's my understanding that most dog treats are out, too? So I guess, when it comes time to figure out what will work for him, etc, I'll discuss with vet. He did tell me boiled skinless chicken would be fine (but not right away yet).

But yes, he will be fine! I also wish I had instituted the no people food policy from the get-go. My plan was to. Then I got lazy.
Even nibbles of their normal dog food can seem like treats to them! Cindy does well on a few, (including LivaLittles), but you have to be very careful. Even stress alone can set her off at this point, but she's getting old. :(
(You are NOT lazy! ;) I don't know that I've ever seen someone with more going on and yet spending so much active time with their dog!

AllDogBoots 07-25-2011 05:36 PM
I am so happy he's home! I think someone's going to get a lot of love and extra hugs tonight!:D

Maximo 07-25-2011 05:53 PM
I am so happy Jackson is home.

I know how much you love training and challenges, so food and diet are the new tricks to learn. As others commented, it is easy to train the doggies. When my family had the Airedale, my brothers and I could leave plates of food on the coffee table in front of the TV and the dog never went near them. We never gave her treats or scraps, so she knew not to bother anything that wasn't in her dish. Max and Teddy don't bother asking either, although we do have to keep food at the table. I don't think they would have any willpower if the food were in reach. :D

Enjoy your evening with your baby back home. :)

JERSEY BOY 07-25-2011 05:54 PM
So happy Jackson is home with you:)

107barney 07-25-2011 05:57 PM
Glad to hear Jackson's back home.

Nancy1999 07-25-2011 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 3611641)
Of course the vet on the phone also told me "stay away from all natural diets and feed high quality kibbles such as IAMS, Eukanuba, Science Diet, etc". So he's basically saying the Purina E/N only needs to be fed until the bag is finished and then I should go to one of those foods *sigh* This is difficult for me.... lol. I can tell he will not discuss any other types of food with me and is totally against anything else.

Obviously, I am going to listen to my vet's advice. I really trust his knowledge and I am going to use what is best for Jackson's tummy. But I am hoping I can maybe get him to agree on at least Natural Balance for the future? They have some pretty low fat and protein content foods.... I can't see how feeding Iams or Eukanuba would be any better than NB at least. But this is just my issue that I will speak to the vet about and possibly contact a few more just to get their opinion. Maybe find a canine nutritionist in the area, and we'll go from there. For now, he will stay on the Purina E/N.

Anyone know where to find a canine nutritionist? I'm still not totally giving up the idea of homecooking.
I know this will be hard for you, but so much of what you read on the web is just "part" of the information. Nutrition is much more complex than what many websites have you believe. How separate foods work together is such a large part of the equation that very few amateur nutritionists address. Home cooking is really a costly and time consuming adventure, and is often necessary if there are multiple problems, allergies along with pancreatitis for example.

If you choose a canine nutritionist, please choose one who has actual credentials. Look at this website that tells the difference between a dietitian and a nutritionist, and you will see ANYONE can call themselves a canine nutritionist. Dietitian vs. Nutritionist

Ellie May 07-25-2011 06:06 PM
I don't think you'll find a veterinary nutritionist close by. Most of us do phone consults. The only ones I would consider are DVM, PhD, and they really should be DACVN.

I'm not sure why he thinks Iams/Euk/SD in the regular version would be any better than natural diets, but I would bet it has something to do with him not having time to look into all the natural stuff and it's easier to stick with these ones. All the natural stuff can go terribly wrong very quickly. I'm sure you can find a vet that will help you choose a more "natural" food to feed, but it would probably be much easier for you if you just go with what this vet is saying. Homecooking is not a bad idea. Just requires dedication and is far from necessary for him right now.

I just picked up some SD Nature's Best for the new pup. I like this food quite a bit. No idea if it would work for Jackson (I'm really into rx diets for pancreas issues or diets formulated by veterinary nutritionists), but you would be fulfilling the vet's requirement of choosing among certain brands and it would be closer to what you are used to feeding.

mama2yorkies 07-25-2011 06:08 PM
I'm so very glad to hear that Jackson is home and feeling better.

107barney 07-25-2011 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3611703)
I know this will be hard for you, but so much of what you read on the web is just "part" of the information. Nutrition is much more complex than what many websites have you believe. How separate foods work together is such a large part of the equation that very few amateur nutritionists address. Home cooking is really a costly and time consuming adventure, and is often necessary if there are multiple problems, allergies along with pancreatitis for example.

If you choose a canine nutritionist, please choose one who has actual credentials. Look at this website that tells the difference between a dietitian and a nutritionist, and you will see ANYONE can call themselves a canine nutritionist. Dietitian vs. Nutritionist
:thumbup::thumbup: Home cooking is indeed very expensive and time consuming. If you choose to home cook for your dog, please make sure that a board certified vet nutritionist guarantees that the diet is balanced. You can check the American College of Veterinary Nutrition website for info at American College of Veterinary Nutrition

Ellie May 07-25-2011 06:11 PM
ETA: doesn't SD have a sensitive formula? Maybe that could work.
Or maybe Royal Canin?

107barney 07-25-2011 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3611719)
ETA: doesn't SD have a sensitive formula? Maybe that could work.
Or maybe Royal Canin?

Royal Canin Gastrointestinal low fat is what Dr R said was ok for Barney and my vet has since come to like it as well. It's rice-based.

http://www.royalcanin.us/adx/aspx/ad...+LFG%E4%F3.pdf

yorkieusa 07-25-2011 06:14 PM
So very glad Jackson is home. You'll both sleep better tonight. He'll be ok. Just give him time.:)

Ellie May 07-25-2011 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3611721)
Royal Canin Gastrointestinal low fat is what Dr R said was ok for Barney and my vet has since come to like it as well. It's rice-based.

http://www.royalcanin.us/adx/aspx/ad...+LFG%E4%F3.pdf
I was thinking about that, but is it rx? I guess if the vet would write for it...

If I had a completely healthy pup except for pancreas issues and I wanted to feed kibble, this one would be at the top of my list bc I know she likes it in a lot of cases.


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