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AllDogBoots · 07-07-2011, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximo

I understand the emotional rollercoaster you have been on, and this was a totally unexpected diagnosis, but be happy! It's treatable and Teddy is going to be as perfect as ever.

I totally agree with this. I think this is a good diagnosis!

Maximo · 07-07-2011, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by roseylovestosho

Poor Teddy...maybe it was because he had conjuctivitis and that made him more suceptible to the mites?

Could be.

ladyjane · 07-07-2011, 07:09 AM

Sunny D has had demodex mange around his eye. THey prescribed Goodwinal cream and it cleared up.
It is really NOT a big deal!

It can come back, but is treatable.

ladyjane · 07-07-2011, 07:11 AM

Information about demodex....

Demodectic Mange

From that site:

Demodectic mange, also called "demodicosis," is caused by a microscopic mite of the Demodex genus. Three species of Demodex mites have been identified in dogs: Demodex canis, Demodex gatoi, and Demodex injai. The most common mite of demodectic mange is Demodex canis. All dogs raised normally by their mothers possess this mite as mites are transferred from mother to pup via cuddling during the first few days of life. Most dogs live in harmony with their mites, never suffering any consequences from being parasitized. If, however, conditions change to upset the natural equilibrium (such as some kind of suppression of the dog's immune system), the Demodex mites may "gain the upper hand." The mites proliferate and can cause serious skin disease.

roseylovestosho · 07-07-2011, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

I totally agree with this. I think this is a good diagnosis!

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Originally Posted by Maximo

Sorry, I really didn't mean to upset you. Human have little critters on their eyelashes too.

You remind me of an episode of Northern Exposure in which the female lead refused to kiss the doctor after he told her about the bugs in human eyelashes.

Oh, I know...it's just better not to know what they look like!

I was already preparing myself for something worse so when they were looking him over and couldn't find anything wrong with him at the moment I was thinking oh no not again! I think the shock is wearing off now and I can finally relax and be happy.

Maximo · 07-07-2011, 07:15 AM

What did the specialist do to determine it is mites? A scraping or culture?

roseylovestosho · 07-07-2011, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximo

What did the specialist do to determine it is mites? A scraping or culture?

It was a scraping and then they looked at it under a microscope and let me know immediately. I didn't think they could do it that fast! Is that the usual protocol?

Maximo · 07-07-2011, 07:19 AM

Sounds logical to me -- identifying them under a microscope only takes seconds.

roseylovestosho · 07-07-2011, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximo

Sounds logical to me -- identifying them under a microscope only takes seconds.

Seriously...how can anyone forget what an ugly thing like that looks like? Hell, give me a microscope right now and I betcha I can diagnose one now too.

ladyjane · 07-07-2011, 07:24 AM

Honestly, I am stunned that your vet did not diagnose it. I thought it might be that when I saw the picture, but since he diagnosed blepharitis I assumed he had ruled out mange.

To pay for a specialist for such a diagnosis is sad imo.

roseylovestosho · 07-07-2011, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane

Honestly, I am stunned that your vet did not diagnose it. I thought it might be that when I saw the picture, but since he diagnosed blepharitis I assumed he had ruled out mange.

To pay for a specialist for such a diagnosis is sad imo.

This is why I don't really feel close to any vet in the area. Sure, he's nice but...I just had to spend $200 for a specialist to diagnose mites. I'm very happy that it's diagnosed, but I"m not happy about everything I went through for this diagnosis. With vet visits and medicines this comes up to about $350

roseylovestosho · 07-07-2011, 08:39 AM

Forgot to tell you guys all the tests that were performed.
-Shirmer tear test which came out to 20 mm/60s and 15mm/60s
-Fluorescein Stain (negative)
-Tonometry 22mmHg and 20mmHg
-And of course skin scraping

Under medications it says Ivermectin...I guess that is what my vet will be giving Teddy.

Maximo · 07-07-2011, 09:10 AM

That is a lot of money to diagnose mange. Very frustrating. Look at this way, you have peace of mind knowing Teddy's eyes are perfect. That is priceless, and I know you feel that way.

GoofyBritt · 07-07-2011, 09:57 AM

Wow I'm glad you finally have a diagnosis! I might have to have my vet do a scraping and see if it's that form of mange.. I'm glad it's treatable! Whew!

I'm sorry it took so long to get a diagnosis. I know it's frustrating. Good luck to you and your baby. I'm thinking of you both.

Ellie May · 07-07-2011, 10:08 AM

Does he have just this one area (around the eyes) that looks off or are there other areas also? One area (localized) is much better. Dogs have mites. His immune system must have been or be down to allow them to take over. Is his recent blood work all good?

Ivermectin is pretty normal for demodex treatment. When we thought E may have them (tests were negative), her vet was going to put her on an immune booster also.

Could be much worse, but the question is why is his immune system down...

It is sad that a specialist was needed for this. A skin scraping is like a 20 dollar, 5 minute thing at a regular vet's office.

07-07-2011, 07:09 AM	#123
ladyjane Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 27,490	Sunny D has had demodex mange around his eye. THey prescribed Goodwinal cream and it cleared up. It is really NOT a big deal! It can come back, but is treatable. __________________ CLOUD NINE BEDS--YORKIE HAVEN RESCUE MY ETSY SHOP

07-07-2011, 07:11 AM	#124
ladyjane Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 27,490	Information about demodex.... Demodectic Mange From that site: Demodectic mange, also called "demodicosis," is caused by a microscopic mite of the Demodex genus. Three species of Demodex mites have been identified in dogs: Demodex canis, Demodex gatoi, and Demodex injai. The most common mite of demodectic mange is Demodex canis. All dogs raised normally by their mothers possess this mite as mites are transferred from mother to pup via cuddling during the first few days of life. Most dogs live in harmony with their mites, never suffering any consequences from being parasitized. If, however, conditions change to upset the natural equilibrium (such as some kind of suppression of the dog's immune system), the Demodex mites may "gain the upper hand." The mites proliferate and can cause serious skin disease. __________________ CLOUD NINE BEDS--YORKIE HAVEN RESCUE MY ETSY SHOP

07-07-2011, 07:15 AM	#126
Maximo ♥ Maximo and Teddy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 25,047	What did the specialist do to determine it is mites? A scraping or culture? __________________ Kristin, Max and Teddy

07-07-2011, 07:19 AM	#128
Maximo ♥ Maximo and Teddy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 25,047	Sounds logical to me -- identifying them under a microscope only takes seconds. __________________ Kristin, Max and Teddy

07-07-2011, 07:24 AM	#130
ladyjane Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 27,490	Honestly, I am stunned that your vet did not diagnose it. I thought it might be that when I saw the picture, but since he diagnosed blepharitis I assumed he had ruled out mange. To pay for a specialist for such a diagnosis is sad imo. __________________ CLOUD NINE BEDS--YORKIE HAVEN RESCUE MY ETSY SHOP

07-07-2011, 08:39 AM	#132
roseylovestosho Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: #4 PRIVET DRIVE Posts: 1,685	Forgot to tell you guys all the tests that were performed. -Shirmer tear test which came out to 20 mm/60s and 15mm/60s -Fluorescein Stain (negative) -Tonometry 22mmHg and 20mmHg -And of course skin scraping Under medications it says Ivermectin...I guess that is what my vet will be giving Teddy. __________________

07-07-2011, 09:10 AM	#133
Maximo ♥ Maximo and Teddy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 25,047	That is a lot of money to diagnose mange. Very frustrating. Look at this way, you have peace of mind knowing Teddy's eyes are perfect. That is priceless, and I know you feel that way. __________________ Kristin, Max and Teddy

07-07-2011, 09:57 AM	#134
GoofyBritt YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Grove City, OH Posts: 328	Wow I'm glad you finally have a diagnosis! I might have to have my vet do a scraping and see if it's that form of mange.. I'm glad it's treatable! Whew! I'm sorry it took so long to get a diagnosis. I know it's frustrating. Good luck to you and your baby. I'm thinking of you both. __________________ Bentley Bentley is my angel. I never knew I could love a dog so much, he is truly a miracle.

07-07-2011, 10:08 AM	#135
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	Does he have just this one area (around the eyes) that looks off or are there other areas also? One area (localized) is much better. Dogs have mites. His immune system must have been or be down to allow them to take over. Is his recent blood work all good? Ivermectin is pretty normal for demodex treatment. When we thought E may have them (tests were negative), her vet was going to put her on an immune booster also. Could be much worse, but the question is why is his immune system down... It is sad that a specialist was needed for this. A skin scraping is like a 20 dollar, 5 minute thing at a regular vet's office. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶