sorry to hear she's not doing well this morning.
for the bland diet don't use chicken broth; it has sodium and onions; just boil the chicken and the rice. also don't add probiotic in really hot food; it can kill the good bacteria.
i was reading the ingredients in propectalin gel and maybe she's sensitive to some of the ingredients (see below list); like soy oil; it also has sugar, chicken flavor and artificial flavors; doesn't sound so good.
why don't u use the fortiflora or the bene-bac pet gel; those are better. good luck and hope she feels better soon.

Ingredients: Kaolin, Soy Oil, Pectin, Silicon Dioxide, Encapsulated Dried Enterococcus faecium Fermentation Product, Powdered Sugar, Chicken Flavor, Natural, and Artificial Flavors

it was the pill kind, but maybe something in there?

ok found it
Pro-Pectalin Tablets Veterinary Information from Drugs.com

Ingredients: Kaolin, Sorbitol, Maltodextrin, Liver Flavor, Microcrystalline Cellulose, Dextrose, Whey Protein, Encapsulated Dried Enterococcus faecium Fermentation Product, Brewer's Yeast, Dicalcium Phosphate, Pectin, Stearic Acid, Magnesium, Stearate, Silica

sorbitol is a laxative
Sorbitol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Me either but I wish you the best...:hug:

A bland diet is 50% rice and 50% chicken.
I'd do it for a month. I would not add anything to it, except water.
The rice should be very well cooked - I'd use brown, but that's a preference.
I'd do white meat chicken roasted and skinless with all fat removed. I would never boil meat of any kind.
I'd do the fecal profile in its entirety on BOTH dogs.
I'd do the metro, the cerenia and probably add Pepcid AC.

If I did not see any improvement in one weeks time doing the above, I'd drop the vet.

NOTE: if your dog has a chicken sensitivity, I'd ask the vet what you can sub for chicken.

what's your reason for not boiling meats?

if your dog is sensitive to chicken or rice; you can use turkey breast or ground turkey (99% fat free) and oatmeal. that's why i fed my dog for months because she couldn't tolerate any dog food due to her ibd.
i boiled the meat and cooked the oatmeal in the turkey broth. boil on very low heat to keep the nutrients. i got the recipe from Dr. Pitcairn's New Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs and Cats

Boiling makes chicken meat tough and hard to chew. But what about simmering in the crock pot for a few hours? It comes out very tender.

i boil the turkey meat on very low heat so it doesn't dry out; i use the ground turkey meat; make them into patties; boil them and then cut them up later on and add to the oatmeal (which i cook in the turkey broth).

I do not boil meats for various reasons but the main one is that it makes the flesh tough and leaches out the flavor into the water. Roasting produces a much nicer consistency of chicken - I usually make chicken salad that way.

If you are going to boil your chicken, make sure you boil it off bone for 10-15 minutes and check the internal temperature of the meat with a thermometer. On the bone needs an hour for boiling.

thanks i usually boil it very slowly always getting frozen boneless skinless chicken breasts and i just boil in water and then use that water to make the rice and they seem to like it fine. we eat it too and it tastes good to me and it's not usually that tough. mike is making it and he'll be eating a couple breasts himself. i told him be very careful that it is 100% cooked through and there is no pink left at all that it's all white throughout. he's pretty good at cooking so i hope he's fine with it. and i use a rice cooker from pampered chef and just put a cup of rice in with a cup of the boiling chicken water and let that cook up. i break the chicken into tiny bits and add more of the water broth for extra fluids and flavor. it's like chicken soup. and then i put the probiotics in that, but this time they gave those in pill form which Sadie refuses to eat. darn her. he did pill her the cerenia though so i hope she will eat soon.

edited to add: i forgot to mention. she gets itchy from chicken dog foods, but she's never gotten itchy from boiled home made chicken. i don't know why, but it's never bothered her like chicken in a processed diet does...????

I don't use ground meats - I get whole cuts of meats from the supermarket or butcher. You can then ask them to pass it through the meat grinder - I do it all the time at whole foods and I'm sure a regular supermarket would do the same. Then you know what is going into the grinder...

Just a note on oatmeal - there was some hype about it being contaminated with gluten (wheat) and some (many) dogs are sensitive to wheat. Same for rice actually. If you buy these, try to buy a certified-gluten free option.

My dog Daisy cannot tolerate rice nor oatmeal and it is probably for this reason. We do potatoes for her.

You could do potatoes and turkey - just make it plain. You could roast a turkey breast in the over with potatoes, drain all the fat, rinse the turkey and peel the potatoes. I'd avoid dark meat turkey and skin at this time with GI upset.

I am not saying that it's bad to boil meat but once you start eating roasted meats, you'll never eat boiled again. It's much easier and cheaper to buy chicken breasts on the bone, pop them in the oven and come back an hour later.

I would never boil frozen chicken! You need to thaw it first, then you cannot just decide its done because of no pink showing - all meats should ALWAYS be checked for internal temperatures, especially when boiling. Poultry shoudl be at 165-170 degrees internal temperature.
This is safe food handling.

I'm sorry to go on about this - I have a biology degree and I also took chef classes in college so I have both things going on. I can barely stand to go to other people's houses. :eek:

oh wow thanks for the advice. i'm kinda freaked out about chicken anyways since i keep trying to fry up chicken legs and they always bleed when they're cooked. i hate to eat that now. i'll make sure he really boils good. unfortunately we don't have a meat thermometer at home :( and i\'m working all day today.

yes always thaw up chicken or any meat before cooking it. the insides will stay colder and uncooked than the outside.
and probiotics can\'t be added to hot food; or the bacteria will die. the food has to be cold or slightly warm.
i use the organic instant oatmeal from greenway.