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timetells 12-18-2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3360459)
timetells......I'm curious....so you've got two puppies from this Collier Ranch? http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...le-guilty.html

I was a little confused by your earlier post and now this one. So, did you buy a puppy, an adult, both? You bought a puppy from them at a pet store "adoption":rolleyes: I have never heard of a pet store having an "adoption day" for breeders, normally I hear of pet stores allowing rescues to hold adoption events but never knew of them to allow breeders to do that.

Its not a pet store. I think it is their families dog boutiqu, they own several and they sell dog clothes. Collier has a breeder /broker/business permit from the city to sell and exibit. I saw everything. she posts it . they do rescue events a couple times ayear but it is hard to get one unless you go to the ranch and get a first pic like I did. I am very happy with these folks. They have tons of certificates from rescue organizations for their donations. Do any of you breeders donate to rescues or the humane society? ARE :animal36:animal36ANY OF YOU paying taxes or have business lic? Curious,:eek:

Candibee 12-18-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by timetells (Post 3360841)
Its not a pet store. I think it is their families dog boutiqu, they own several and they sell dog clothes. Collier has a breeder /broker/business permit from the city to sell and exibit. I saw everything. she posts it . they do rescue events a couple times ayear but it is hard to get one unless you go to the ranch and get a first pic like I did. I am very happy with these folks. They have tons of certificates from rescue organizations for their donations. Do any of you breeders donate to rescues or the humane society? ARE :animal36:animal36ANY OF YOU paying taxes or have business lic? Curious,:eek:

Well in the 'Feeling a Little Guilty" thread the lady said that they were trying to sell puppies at this boutique and now your saying that they DO NOT sell puppies at this boutique. And what does donating to rescues have anything to do with anything? :confused:

jencar98 12-18-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by timetells (Post 3360841)
Its not a pet store. I think it is their families dog boutiqu, they own several and they sell dog clothes. Collier has a breeder /broker/business permit from the city to sell and exibit. I saw everything. she posts it . they do rescue events a couple times ayear but it is hard to get one unless you go to the ranch and get a first pic like I did. I am very happy with these folks. They have tons of certificates from rescue organizations for their donations. Do any of you breeders donate to rescues or the humane society? ARE :animal36:animal36ANY OF YOU paying taxes or have business lic? Curious,:eek:

Wow...so, she exploits dogs from every angle...from breeding, and brokering to clothing the pups! Think of the money she makes:rolleyes:

Btw.....in no way is she "rescuing" pups when she is "selling" them at her (or anyone's) pet store. I really wish you would quit using the term "rescue" when referring to this greeder.

By posting you may think you're doing her a favor but in actuality you're only keeping this thread alive and allowing many others to learn the truth. And, the truth, I don't think is favorable for your "friend".

capt_noonie 12-18-2010 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by timetells (Post 3360841)
Its not a pet store. I think it is their families dog boutiqu, they own several and they sell dog clothes. Collier has a breeder /broker/business permit from the city to sell and exibit. I saw everything. she posts it . they do rescue events a couple times ayear but it is hard to get one unless you go to the ranch and get a first pic like I did. I am very happy with these folks. They have tons of certificates from rescue organizations for their donations. Do any of you breeders donate to rescues or the humane society? ARE :animal36:animal36ANY OF YOU paying taxes or have business lic? Curious,:eek:


Actually I do pay taxes, and I do have a business license. And just in case you didn't know, since you stated on your blog that this breeder is on the USDA list, that pretty much seals the deal as they are a puppymill. Brokers are even worse than millers, and I see you have stated they are both! You are really doing a disservice to these people. Or perhaps to yourself? I can't imagine why someone would back up these people so much, unless you are them, or are affiliated with them.

Personally, as a person who works with rescue, I can tell you this breeder is nothing CLOSE to a rescue. More and more greeders trying to hide who they really are by saying they are rescuers. :thumbdown And btw, you don't get "certificates" for donating to legitimate rescue organizations. You get a receipt to write off on your taxes.

Jennxling 12-18-2010 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by timetells (Post 3360841)
Its not a pet store. I think it is their families dog boutiqu, they own several and they sell dog clothes. Collier has a breeder /broker/business permit from the city to sell and exibit. I saw everything. she posts it . they do rescue events a couple times ayear but it is hard to get one unless you go to the ranch and get a first pic like I did. I am very happy with these folks. They have tons of certificates from rescue organizations for their donations. Do any of you breeders donate to rescues or the humane society? ARE :animal36:animal36ANY OF YOU paying taxes or have business lic? Curious,:eek:


I have spoken to the owner of Happy-Go-Lucky boutique store in Valley Fair mall before when I was shopping there. She is NOT the same person who sells the puppy in the store. I have seen them both, they are different people! If I remembered correctly, the owner was an Asian lady and the seller was a Caucasian lady. However, next time I see her, I will ask her about it. I know the lady owns several westies, which is why the logo for the store is a westie (Happy Go Lucky Dog Boutique).

love1yorkie 12-20-2010 02:16 AM

After never hearing from dandi again, we sent his papers and requested vet verification of medication treatment costs and never heard from him again. I sent papers and money but no response. We have one of the loveliest private small kennels anywhere. to build, license and carry permits you must be inspected twice em monthly. A minimum investment is about $100. grand. We passionately try to help all animals and do a twice e yearly rescue only because so many people know we adore our dogs and dump on us. I hold a USDA permit because ANYONE who sell or transports or exhibits even 1 animal must carry this permit legally to hold a business lic. All those BYB selling even 1 puppy behind closed doors is actually illegal. they sell to strangers everyday. I show my dogs in the light of everyone. I share valuable info on buying, training, keeping. I am an expert and consult many people before they buy from other breeders. I exhibit and take months to sell each litter that takes me at least two years to start and a year to plan. I take weeks showing, meeting people and helping my friends in several town s in their businesses. I take my pups anytime I am able to where ever i work and I socialize them after people sanitize. they belong to me and I help bring people into my dear longtime friends businesses. Jsy ask anyone of them and you will get told really quickly that I am not like anyone in this business and the labels do not apply to us as people think. We think outside the box and try to do the very very best service to our friends and animals..god bless. Hope this helps you all understand something positive about who we are. If you care to ask..feel free to just contact me personally if you ever need advise or help. I am an expert in dog behavior and kennel management, animal science.

OwnedByJezebel 02-20-2011 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OnlytheBest (Post 3435207)
I got my girls from Collier Ranch Yorkies and these breeders are First Class. I looked long and far and they were the most helpful, cleanest and the most honest and the best quality I found after searching for months. Seriously the best family Yorkie fanciers I ever found. Their dogs and family are gorgeous. To label them anything but Awesome is silly.

Are you sure you aren't just a customer of Collier Ranch, but are actually affiliated with them? I ask because of this post:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...tines-day.html

And this one, where you seem to have knowledge regarding breeding:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...s-opinion.html

And Collier Ranch isn't just a breeder, they are also, in their own words, a "USDA class B broker." Just lovely!

Hey, I've got the flu right now, so sitting at the computer for short periods is really all I can do.

smyrfette 02-20-2011 05:04 PM

:thumbup: thanks for helping her out its so awful the breeder is acting this way and now demanding the puppy back go figure. Its nice to see wonderful breeders out there offering support :)
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Originally Posted by Sbyork (Post 3237800)
I'll just give you a little imput from my 30yrs experience of breeding and showing yorkies.
1st she did NOT get them both at the vet apt (I'm also a CVT)
One in contacted only from water infested with it. Some city water has a problem, BUT if you know that is the case the puppies need to be TESTED first not just treated because you feel like it.
The other is usually found in overcrowding and dirty conditions. True it can be a one time case for the breeder, but again she is just treating. she MUST know she has a problem.
The VERY least she should agree to pay for the treatments.
Stress will cause both of them to become active. They can live dormante untill stress.
As a breeder, I would pay for the treatment.
No one should have to go through this without the support of a good breeder
Did your breeder test her dogs for Liver Shunt? BtCA requires that before they are registered and bred. Is she a registered breeder with on of the Biewer Clubs or just a backyard breeder?
You can PM me anytime if you need help!
sparklingbluyorkies.com


smyrfette 02-20-2011 05:11 PM

:thumbup:
I am a huge fan of steam cleaning and have multiple steamers. I used mine ever so much more when my hubby was fighting cancer but it works..he never got a cold and I'd steam clean everything
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3237854)
Unfortunately, Coccidia eggs are extremely resistant to bleach. It is much better to use high heat (such as a steam mop and an 10% ammonia solution.)


smyrfette 02-20-2011 05:39 PM

:mad: well I read a post just under yours and why don't you just be a responsible breeder for once instead of trying to show the greeder you are.

One thing you will learn fast here is the yorkie community is very tight and word of mouth via the internet travels fast.

Why don't you stand up for what is truly right for once this poor lady has gone through hell with her new puppy that should be a time of joy.

I guess my patience string is a tad short as of late sorry everyone for my long winded soap box.

It just rubs me the wrong way since I have a true rescue who would have been dead the next time some greeder tried to breed her again at 3.6lbs and luckily she is in my hands and safe from this awful life.

It sure takes nerve to promote your business at a time like this as someone else for the might $$$ and think we are all stupid too.

Gosh I guess they don't figure that some of us actually make our money in the computer related field.

hugs everyone I will go put myself in the corner on timeout!






Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3238198)
You're breeder is for lack of a better word "untruthful". As stated by Lola, send her copy of the lemon laws stand your ground. The breeder is responsible for the vet costs. Contract or not, law overrides contract.

I'm on my way to a dog show, but will be home Sunday evening. PM me with your # and walk you through what you should do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnlytheBest (Post 3435207)
I got my girls from Collier Ranch Yorkies and these breeders are First Class. I looked long and far and they were the most helpful, cleanest and the most honest and the best quality I found after searching for months. Seriously the best family Yorkie fanciers I ever found. Their dogs and family are gorgeous. To label them anything but Awesome is silly.


cally930 02-20-2011 08:05 PM

OMG!!! You have got to be kidding me. Well done ladyjane!!! Are you an undercover investigator LOL!!!!

ladyjane 02-20-2011 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cally930 (Post 3436076)
OMG!!! You have got to be kidding me. Well done ladyjane!!! Are you an undercover investigator LOL!!!!

I am just trying now to figure out what I said that got deleted. hahahhha

cally930 02-20-2011 08:12 PM

I thought you were pretty amazing in figuring out that that wasn't the OP. I can't figure out what it was that you said that was in need of deleting!?!?!?!

ladyjane 02-20-2011 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cally930 (Post 3436084)
I thought you were pretty amazing in figuring out that that wasn't the OP. I can't figure out what it was that you said that was in need of deleting!?!?!?!


Someone else saw the different names....I just put it together when the second one started vouching for the breeder.
Originally I was trying to figure out why someone had two IDs.

dandydaniel 02-20-2011 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by love1yorkie (Post 3362979)
After never hearing from dandi again, we sent his papers and requested vet verification of medication treatment costs and never heard from him again. I sent papers and money but no response. We have one of the loveliest private small kennels anywhere. to build, license and carry permits you must be inspected twice em monthly. A minimum investment is about $100. grand. We passionately try to help all animals and do a twice e yearly rescue only because so many people know we adore our dogs and dump on us. I hold a USDA permit because ANYONE who sell or transports or exhibits even 1 animal must carry this permit legally to hold a business lic. All those BYB selling even 1 puppy behind closed doors is actually illegal. they sell to strangers everyday. I show my dogs in the light of everyone. I share valuable info on buying, training, keeping. I am an expert and consult many people before they buy from other breeders. I exhibit and take months to sell each litter that takes me at least two years to start and a year to plan. I take weeks showing, meeting people and helping my friends in several town s in their businesses. I take my pups anytime I am able to where ever i work and I socialize them after people sanitize. they belong to me and I help bring people into my dear longtime friends businesses. Jsy ask anyone of them and you will get told really quickly that I am not like anyone in this business and the labels do not apply to us as people think. We think outside the box and try to do the very very best service to our friends and animals..god bless. Hope this helps you all understand something positive about who we are. If you care to ask..feel free to just contact me personally if you ever need advise or help. I am an expert in dog behavior and kennel management, animal science.

JUST TO SET THINGS OFFICIALLY CLEAR.

1) This KELLY LADY Did not send us our papers until almost 4 MONTHS AFTER we took Lola home
2) THE PAPERS SHE SENT US WERE FOR THE COMPLETELY WRONG DOG, A DOG BORN IN AUGUST OF 2008 WHEREAS LOLA WAS "BORN" ON 4/20/2010 ACCORDING TO WHAT KELLY HAD TOLD US AT HAPPY-GO-LUCKY
3) She NEVER and I repeat NEVER sent us money in ANY SHAPE, WAY, OR FORM.

i really apologize for the caps lock but this Kelly lady is really going out of control. No one, and I repeat NO ONE should ever buy a puppy from her. This is specific to those in the Bay Area (SHE SELLS DOGS ONLINE AND AT THE HAPPY-GO-LUCKY BOUTIQUE @ THE GREAT MALL IN MILPITAS).

She says a lot of outrageous technical terms in regards to certain things to make it sound all fancy when at the end of the day, she really doesn't know what the hell she is talking about. She gives shots and prescription medication to her own puppies without a practicing medical license (which is hugely illegal btw). she claimed to that over the phone when I asked her why my puppy came with giardia and coccidiosis and she vehemently responded that there is no way in hell it came from her house because she give all of her dogs vaccination shots before they're sold...

but enough of the specific details. all in all, Kelly and collier ranch should be avoided at all costs when looking to purchase a wonderful yorkshire terrier puppy.

and i scoff at the fact that she "shows" these dogs. there were a bunch of little kids picking up the puppies and handling them in the most scary/risky ways. and no, they didn't sanitize SH!T before they touched the pups. because I didn't either when I picked up Lola...

I'll tell you now that after having Lola in our family, she is really nothing but a bundle of joy.

CLIFF NOTES:

AVOID COLLIER RANCH/KELLY/THE DOGS THAT SHE SELLS INFRONT OF HAPPY-GO-LUCKY BOUTIQUE

ladyjane 02-20-2011 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dandydaniel (Post 3436119)
JUST TO SET THINGS OFFICIALLY CLEAR.

1) This KELLY LADY Did not send us our papers until almost 4 MONTHS AFTER we took Lola home
2) THE PAPERS SHE SENT US WERE FOR THE COMPLETELY WRONG DOG, A DOG BORN IN AUGUST OF 2008 WHEREAS LOLA WAS "BORN" ON 4/20/2010 ACCORDING TO WHAT KELLY HAD TOLD US AT HAPPY-GO-LUCKY
3) She NEVER and I repeat NEVER sent us money in ANY SHAPE, WAY, OR FORM.

i really apologize for the caps lock but this Kelly lady is really going out of control. No one, and I repeat NO ONE should ever buy a puppy from her. This is specific to those in the Bay Area (SHE SELLS DOGS ONLINE AND AT THE HAPPY-GO-LUCKY BOUTIQUE @ THE GREAT MALL IN MILPITAS).

She says a lot of outrageous technical terms in regards to certain things to make it sound all fancy when at the end of the day, she really doesn't know what the hell she is talking about. She gives shots and prescription medication to her own puppies without a practicing medical license (which is hugely illegal btw). she claimed to that over the phone when I asked her why my puppy came with giardia and coccidiosis and she vehemently responded that there is no way in hell it came from her house because she give all of her dogs vaccination shots before they're sold...

but enough of the specific details. all in all, Kelly and collier ranch should be avoided at all costs when looking to purchase a wonderful yorkshire terrier puppy.

and i scoff at the fact that she "shows" these dogs. there were a bunch of little kids picking up the puppies and handling them in the most scary/risky ways. and no, they didn't sanitize SH!T before they touched the pups. because I didn't either when I picked up Lola...

I'll tell you now that after having Lola in our family, she is really nothing but a bundle of joy.

CLIFF NOTES:

AVOID COLLIER RANCH/KELLY/THE DOGS THAT SHE SELLS INFRONT OF HAPPY-GO-LUCKY BOUTIQUE

I knew that other person was not YOU. Yes, she really is a piece of work...right down to either stealing your avatar or having someone do it and masquerading as you with a slightly different spelling.
She was advising someone on another thread last night to self medicate a pup...sickening.
Thanks for the information!
LOVE the Cliff Notes......rofl

megansmomma 02-20-2011 09:39 PM

Collier Ranch Yorkies | Facebook

This is a link to their Facebook account that even talks about the Pet boutique. But it looks like the boutique is no longer allowing them to show dogs in their store.

smyrfette 02-21-2011 04:39 AM

well done ladyjane :)

smyrfette 02-21-2011 04:51 AM

I think last night it was slow and I tried to post a few times and it didn't post or locked up. then I posted it and picked up two quotes at once which I wanted to respond to separately. The post I posted after saying that I wanted to post separately for those quotes didn't show up so I'm sure its not anything you said that was bad that didn't show up...just a little burp in the system.

Rhetts_mama 02-21-2011 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3436133)
Collier Ranch Yorkies | Facebook

This is a link to their Facebook account that even talks about the Pet boutique. But it looks like the boutique is no longer allowing them to show dogs in their store.

The FB page has been taken down now, too.

ladyjane 02-21-2011 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3436715)
The FB page has been taken down now, too.

Interesting.

megansmomma 02-21-2011 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3436725)
Interesting.

Love it! She will pop back up again. Either here or on FB. :cool:

roseylovestosho 02-21-2011 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3437244)
Love it! She will pop back up again. Either here or on FB. :cool:

I still see it? I just see that you have to add them as a friend?

megansmomma 02-22-2011 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by roseylovestosho (Post 3437275)
I still see it? I just see that you have to add them as a friend?

They must have blocked me. :rolleyes: Not a problems since I have friends that can look for me. No way that they or others that have done this will know who is their friend and and who could be their foe. :cool: Obviously, these people could not possibly be the smartest tools in the shed. :sidesplt:

smyrfette 02-22-2011 06:09 AM

:thumbup:
Quote:

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3437517)
They must have blocked me. :rolleyes: Not a problems since I have friends that can look for me. No way that they or others that have done this will know who is their friend and and who could be their foe. :cool: Obviously, these people could not possibly be the smartest tools in the shed. :sidesplt:


ladyjane 02-22-2011 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3437517)
They must have blocked me. :rolleyes: Not a problems since I have friends that can look for me. No way that they or others that have done this will know who is their friend and and who could be their foe. :cool: Obviously, these people could not possibly be the smartest tools in the shed. :sidesplt:

Yep....that is blatantly obvious.

Rhetts_mama 02-22-2011 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by roseylovestosho (Post 3437275)
I still see it? I just see that you have to add them as a friend?

It's back up today, but no wall posts anywhere to be seen. Erasing the evidence, I guess.

ladyjane 02-22-2011 07:28 AM

My stomach churner for the day;

Happy Go Lucky Dog Boutique | Facebook

She calls herself a rescuer. Heaven help the poor pups in this world. :(

From the FB page: Collier Ranch Yorkies We are doing a RESCUE puppy mission tomorrow for a HGL customer with maltese -mix puppies from 1a.m. -3p.m. All proceeds go to spay and neuter the parents(woohoo) Come see us and lets play!
January 29 at 3:40am

smyrfette 02-22-2011 10:18 AM

no kidding lady jane this woman made the hairs on my arms stand up and its just sick the angles and areas they exploit just to make a buck.

concretegurl 02-25-2011 01:19 AM

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ml#post3441794


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