Typical....where have you been the past three days? Perhaps you need to go back and read every post.

Come along now and act like people are mean. Same story, different day.

All I can say is again: THANK GOD the pup is going to FINALLY get help. :)

As I said...no one enjoys this....it was just something that HAD to be done. Sometimes things must be said for people to wake up. If we had coddled her do you really think she would have surrendered this pup? She needed to face the reality.
Now, I am not going to argue with you. I am going to move on and help other pups who need it. :) I will do it my way....not yours. I do not enjoy having to come down on someone, but sometimes it is absolutely necessary. And, if you want to go around saying that is mean, that is your prerogative. Have a wonderful night.

oh please ladyjane.. i had this set up way before you got up on your high horse..i just wish there was a way that i could block you from ever posting in one of my threads.

Your pup will be in good hands with Olga's group. I know it was hard; but you made the absolute right decision.

As I stated before, I usually don't post on these issues, but Brendah, this is not the first time this puppy has been like this. I believe it was last November that she started a thread about Roriee having these same issues. She should have gotten help for the puppy back then. I am not an advocate of people just giving up their pets, but when you don't have the money to take care of them, it is something you should consider. We aren't talking about a dog that is vomiting, this is a serious issue that will cost a lot of money. And to think that this dog has been this way since last year is sad. Call me mean, call me rude, I don't care, this is a living, breathing being that she is supposed to take care of and if that means surrendering it, then so be it.

Actually it is you that should do your research. Start with responsible pet ownership and what that minimally requires. I actually think it is you that is the mean one. You let this innocent creature suffer for months, you solicited money from good hearted visitors to your website where you posted disturbing photos of your dog's suffering. Then you had the audacity to spend those donations on vet care bills and not the surgery you told the public your dog needed!

While I will say that turning the pup over to rescue was the right thing to do, you were way too late and you let an animal suffer needlessly for your own selfish reasons. You allowed an animal to "SCREAM" in pain and lie there with its skeleton all twisted. In my book, you deserve no respect.

:(:(:(:(:(:(:( I can't read all the posts yet - but oh man - screaming is from pain - always:(

edited to add - GOOD LUCK !

as i have said before.. roriee had a the first episode last november and i did get her help.. she got so much better that she was not in pain anymore and she ran around like a normal little dog except i would not let her jump on furniture anymore or go down stairs.. anything that would hurt her neck but she was no longer in pain.. her body was no longer twisted.. she was awesome.. then she had her relapse and i posted again here to reach out to people...but i never got any money for her surgery and if i had i would have gotten it asap.. i guess i just have to expect that you all dont understand and since you didnt live with us day to day you dont know.. but my roommates and my family all know that roriee is very much loved and taken care of...she was not in pain and even olga knew that she was so much better then when i first posted.

Randi - I am very relieved to see that Roriee is going to a rescue, this is good news.

If someone local is picking her up, she really does need to go to a local vet (pref. one of the neuros or an internist) for immediate assessment as to the best course of action. There needs to be a plan in place as to how/if her pain can be managed during the long transport to Michigan. Can her neck be stabilized properly? Can pain be managed properly? Can she be given enough pain meds, despite her Liver Shunt (what can the liver clear?)?

Have you checked if Olga has a local outreach in your area, so Roriee doesn't have to go through a transport? Honestly, I don't think transporting this baby across country is a good idea *at all*. I'm so glad you are getting her help, but I think transporting her will hurt her more.

Ann, I was thinking the same thing. That seems like too far to travel with a dog in her delicate condition and in that much pain. I'm afraid she might not survive the trip.

There are three national yorkie groups that could help her. Not exactly sure why people are jacking her around in cars but nothing I can say or do. Or is the transport going to be by plane??...that is what we would do. I would never transport a fragile pup by automobile over such a distance. Additionally, the yorkie rescues have fosters all over and may have one closer to her. At least she is being surrendered for the help she needs.

I am so thankful that it seems this poor little doggy will be getting the help that she needs. I hope it is in time.

I put Randi in touch with Olga (Retro Doggie Rescue), back in the beginning, because Olga was going thru the same thing at the time with a tiny rescue pup. Olga and Retro Doggie Rescue is ONE of the BEST rescues here in the USA. She knows her stuff, and she gets her rescues above and beyond ready and healthy for adoption...more than any other I have seen, EVER :thumbup:

If I had a pup in need of medical and I couldn't afford it, Olga and Retro Doggie Rescue would be my very first choice. I know there is distance, but if it can happen very quick, I think it should be tried. And if it can't then of course another reputable Yorkie rescue should be called upon.

Randi, I know you are sad and upset and I know you love Roriee dearly. However, you yourself are dealing with some tuff times, financially and health wise. And even more unfortunate, Roriee is also in need of urgent medical care. Pet owners def. provide love and security, but when a pet needs more than that, when they need to be healthy, then I do believe the most courageous and loving thing a pet-parent can do (if they can't provide) is give the pet a chance at a healthy life, and that is surrender to a Rescue, whom can fulfill that need.

I am sorry that it has come to this. No one asks for a sick pup that's for sure, especially AAI which is really such a critical disease. I don't wish it upon anyone :(

I will be following on the Liver Group to see how Roriee's transport progresses. I know Olga will do what she can, but also you may want to talk with her about what if she can't get Roriee to her, I am sure she can put you into direct contact with other wonderful folks that work in Yorkie Rescue that would be able to help as well.

I am not suggesting it is not a good rescue. I would love to know what tools you use to measure the "best" rescues in the US. But..for another day.

My suggestion is that someone FLY this pup to this woman. That is what I would do if I were involved and it was a long distance.

Ohhhh I know who that group is. I thought the person who runs it is a different name? Is it OLga's group or is she just a member?
Did they change the name of their group a few times?

Oh I never said that you or anyone was suggesting that they weren't a good rescue or not. I think there are alot of great rescues, and what I wrote (which is my opinion) that Olga runs one of the best ones (again, there are other best ones too). I belong to her Liver Disease Group on Yahoo, so I see first hand exactly how far she goes with her rescue pups, both healthy and ones that are really, really sick. She also helps people from the group from all over the world with their sick dogs.

There could be other rescues that do the same, but I can't comment on them, because I don't have experience with them.

I measure anything on life based on my experience with someone or something. I can't really give advice on something that I haven't experienced, it just doesn't make sense :D

Sorry, the person running Retro Doggie Rescue may indeed have a different name. Olga belongs with the Rescue (not sure of her offical title though) and she is the Liver Disease Group owner.

Connie Kramer is her name. :)

jodi from luvmysissy on here does transport by plane maybe she can help as her hubby is a flight attendant i believe and she is able to get flights to fly pups so they do not have to be crated in cargo

That would be wonderful if someone could do that! :)

I just pm'd her so hopefully she will see this soon and she lives in Michigan i think close to olga so she could probably drive her to olga too

Yeah that would be great!

I wanted to add here, because we are seeing alot of AAI cases lately around here, and this is a public forum, so to help others as well :) I think it is really important to be working with a Neuro Specialist with AAI pups, as they are as fragile as a china doll. There are a lot of factors when dealing with this disease, since we can't see inside them to the damage, or what is on the verge of becoming damage. Some pups are good candidates for corrective surgery, some are not, some are good for the full body cast and some are not, but only a Specialist can guide an owner thru that. One wrong more could cause extremely pain, paralysis or death :(

I also want to say that there are a good number of reputable rescues that are willing to go above and beyond, as I mentioned, I feel RDR is one of them, but I also want to say that I feel YHR and YTNR are also top notch and one of the best in mind as well. I have seen their rescue pups and stories too, and I know they also do everything and anything to save a life ;)
When I look at a rescue, I want to see them going that extra mile. I want to see them get the pup into the best Vet care, no expense too great, I want to follow the story and see the most heartwarming ending, a happy, healthy pup that goes onto a loving forever home, a home that has been evaluated and every precaution made to make sure the fit is 100% all around :thumbup: I only wish there were more of them, as there are just so many darn sick and unwanted (so sad)

this is correct and neck pain is VERY SERIOUS in this breed and maltese breed so if your dog experiences neck issues get to a neurologist and get xrays ASAP

I have not been really following this thread but has anyone talked to the OP directly or the vet directly? What does the vet say about transporting this dog?

Good point :thumbup:

Anyone?????

Ann, you bring up such a good point here. Much care including stabilization and pain management is needed for a safe transport to not hurt her further. I hope this is being considered, as well as alternatives to a long transport. God forbid if they hurt her worse by a long transport.

if Jodi can do it she is extremely knowledgeable as she is friends with vicki and val and jaimie who have aai pups. Jodi is probably the best option in transporting as she lives in michigan, knowledgeable about sick pups, and transports dogs already by air. I am hoping she can do this i just called her and i pm her but not sure of her schedule :( I will not be on line until tonight or tomorrow so i will be praying this all works out ok

Have you talked to the vet...?????

Good point. Roiree's vet should be consulted before any plans to take her on such along trip are finalized.

You guys are so right, the Vet should absolutly clear Roriee for any travel ;)