New Puppy, Just noticed eyes are not the same size!?! What should I do? 1 Attachment(s) Hello all, I am seeking some advice. I just received a new puppy from a breeder that I have been with in contact with for months. I received multiple emails about the puppy being healthy and pictures that appeared to show the puppy to be normal and healthy. One of the pictures I received showed that one eye was smaller than the other, but I thought it as just the spot around her eye making the picture look weird. I got the actual puppy two days ago and when I brought her to the vet, the first thing he told me was that the two eyes were different sizes. The right eye is 1cm and the left eye is 1-1/2cm. She also had abrasians that could have been ulcers so the vet put her on antibiotic eye drops for one week. The vet also said she does not produce tears in that right eye and an insufficient amount in the left eye. Basically she is at risk for infections and blindness her whole life because of the chronic dry eyes. I have a contract with the breeder to trade the puppy in for one of equal value if it is not healthy. Would this be a reason any of you would trade her in? It's a hard call because she is exactly what I have been looking for despite the eye problems, I don't know if I should keep her, seeing that I got her for breeding, and the vet said this could be genetic and could pass it on to future litters. Should I return her? Or will this not pass on to future pups? How common is the dry eye thing in yorkies? |
Did your vet mention surgerical repair? Dry eye is a painful condition for a dog to endure for a life time. I had a pup like this and repaired the eye and the buyer said it was fine the rest of her life... The breeder had to know of this problem before selling..why would her vet give a health cert and not mention it...I would ask for money to repair the eye if the eye surgeon advises it..if not fixable, I would return the pup...I had two grooming clients who did not repair the tear duct's in their Yorkies...the eyes were always a mess..constantly dry and infected...I told both..fix the eyes or get a new groomer..one did , one did not...my vet said a dry eye feels like you have sand in your eye..and that is painful...it breaks my heart to see a dog suffer...even slightly. Absolutely no breeding...this can be genetic. I spayed the dam that produced the dry eye pup of mine and her eyes were perfect. What breed is your puppy? |
She is a parti yorkie. Would the small eye also be passed on in breeding? Based on the tests the vet did, the right eye doesnt produce any tears but the left eye produces some just not enough. Should I still spay her because of this? Also, what is the minimum weight to breed a Yorkie? I can't seem to find that information anywhere?!? The breeder originally told me the puppy was 5oz when she was born, so according to the growth chart, she is projected to be about 5.5lb. She is currently 9 weeks and is 1.4lb which on the growth chart makes her projected to be between 3.5 and 3.9lb full grown. Has something stunted her growth? Is she just a slow grower? Is that weight not enough to breed her? I want her to be safe if I was to breed her. I'm not trying to be irresponsible so I want to make sure I get all of this information. I may have to return her to the breeder for all of these problems I have found, even though I would love to keep her. =( |
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I would keep her and spay her. Keep her as a pet. Learn some more about breeding and research a good breeder to get stock from. ;) |
Birth weight is so seldom the correct indication of adult weight...one pup litters can have a huge 6 0z pup who grows up to be 3 pounds..it is the genes that determine adult weight. I double at 12 weeks...a pup that is 1.4 at 9 weeks will 90% of the time not make a decent breeding weight..again a big reason the breeder should never have sold her for breeding... I know you are attaching to this little girl...but her eye is a stopper for me. If she had a normal eye, just smaller, I would never breed her either...it is such a bad fault to reproduce. I can deal with large eyes or small eyes, but not one of each.. I am not happy with the breeder you are dealing with...an ethical breeder would NEVER, NEVER sell a puppy with this fault for breeding...and the first thing out of her mouth should have been to state the problem. AND the reason the cornea has abrasions is because the lack of tears cause all these nasty problems to the point the eye can ulcerate and need to be removed...would you want to chance this happening to another puppy...I would avoid the line entirely...I do not trust the breeder to be honest and tell you what faults are in the line. |
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I would like to respectfully suggest you spend some more time researching and working with a mentor before breeding. There are also excellent resources here at YT to get you started. :) http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-answered.html |
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Hmmm, just took a closer look at her pic and the left eye appears to be normal in size but that right eye looks under developed to me. Might look diff in person but from the pic that's sure what it looks like. |
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As for this eye, it looks like microphthalmia to me. This is a genetic issue. If you are looking to breed, I would suggest a different breeder for sure. I hope someone wonderful gets her and treasures her as a pet. I have a little pup with this condition and she is a total love. http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+2092&aid=323 |
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What I really advise is a small claims suit to pay for vet bills...surgery etc..this hits home in the pocketbook...buyer should check into state laws covering this... |
Being born with too small or absent lacrimal (tear producing) glands is genetic in Yorkies so she absolutely shouldn't be bred. There is a surgery available to correct KCS (dry eye). A salivary gland is rerouted to the eye. I have discussed the surgery with both Lady's private ophthalmologist and the ophthalmologists at NC State Vet School, but Lady is not a candidate because of her age. It is the longest surgery they do, about three hours. It is also not without complications according to my ophthalmologist. Some dogs are actually allergic to their own saliva. Excess tearing is also a problem - a constantly wet face. The pros and cons have to be very carefully weighed with your ophthalmologist, however it is usually recommended in a puppy or young dog. KCS is very expensive to treat and treatment is lifelong. Dogs with KCS should see an ophthalmologist at least annually, preferably twice a year. Since her condition is congenital, it won't respond to tear stimulators. Applying artificial tears every 2-4 hours is very important. I use Genteal severe eye formula and it runs me about $50 a month. Will someone be with her during the day to apply the artificial tears 24/7? Dogs with KCS are prone to infection and eye ulcers. Lady had an infection this summer that cost me $1,000 to clear up. Those little bottles of eye drops are close to $100 each! Eye ulcers also require medication and sometimes do not heal on their own. They may require surgery (a graft) which runs several thousand dollars. Eventually scar tissue will build up on the eye and the dog will lose her vision. I am not trying to scare you, but just give you a realistic picture of what caring for a dog with KCS involves. Here is a very good article: KCS (Dry Eye) |
I know this sounds drastic, but would removing the eye be an option...the reason I say this, is because two friends have one eyed Yorkies.. honestly,with the hair cut into bangs I can not tell an eye is missing..dogs function 100%. ps..I would never breed the dam again... |
Someone may have suggested this already, but I will throw it out there. All ethics about breeding put aside.....You most likely have a contract that says exchange of a puppy not your money back. So, can you or would you be in a position to ask the breeder for a new healthy puppy and keep this one too. The breeder will most likely euthanize her if you send her back, so it is a win win for you and the puppy. But, you are obviously also entitled to a healthy puppy. |
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This condition is not a reason for euthanasia. :( The best outcome is for the puppy to go to someone who places more value on the pup than on the money it could possibly garner by using it for breeding. |
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This puppy just needs someone who will commit to taking care of her and possibly getting parotid duct surgery. |
OMG no...removal of the eye would not be necessary. But...I see people removing legs so that they can avoid paying to fix them. :( |
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My response had more to do with the comment about euthanasia being an option. I realize she only wanted her for breeding. My hope is that someone will get this poor little puppy and love it. And, honestly, I DO hope she reads that thread that was posted about breeding. I have a strong feeling she has not educated herself about breeding. |
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I agree, this absolutely is not a reason for euth. I'm worried if the pup is returned that could be the end result. |
Another member who is dealing with the same congenital dry eye just got an estimate of $2,000 from the University of Tennessee to do the parotid duct surgery. IMO, the ethical thing to do would be for the breeder to get this surgery done, then place this puppy in a very carefully selected home for no charge since monitoring/treating this condition will be lifelong. Reputable breeders take responsibility for the puppies they produce. Anyone who breeds should set money aside to properly care for any special needs puppies they produce. KCS should not be a death sentence. My 14.5 year old Lady has been living with it for 4 years. Hers is a result of nerve damage from being diabetic for almost eight years, not congenital. I am fanatical about her eye exams, artificial tears and eyelid cleansing, and her vision is still perfect - no scar tissue. She's had two eye ulcers and one infection in the 4 years. It's not cheap, but definitely manageable. It's just a matter of finding an owner who will commit to this puppy's care. |
I remember seeing this pup for sale.. Im sorry you dealt with a dishonest person and I hope that you decide to spay this girl so this problem doesn't occur again |
poor little girl - that sounds painful..... I don't know how to say this and please take it the way I hope it comes across...but eye problem aside I hope you re-think breeding this little female !! In all honesty I couldn't tell she WAS a parti (yorkie) and I'm sorry the breeder took you.... but since you have her now....maybe step back on the breeding issue until you know what you're facing ? |
To the OP...we have not heard back from you...Have you contacted the breeder for a refund? |
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