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seschna 04-05-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by toke (Post 3071222)
All this dry hacking...he's been checked for heartworm, right?

ya we did a heartworm test the day i got him and it was neg

pancakepat 04-05-2010 03:40 PM

Decided to jump in here. Think I'd cancal Fri appt. & get 2nd opinion. This has been going on quite while & you said yourself your vet doesn't seem to know what to do or doesn't really seem to care. 2 good reasons for 2nd. opinion in my book.

seschna 04-05-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pancakepat (Post 3071398)
Decided to jump in here. Think I'd cancal Fri appt. & get 2nd opinion. This has been going on quite while & you said yourself your vet doesn't seem to know what to do or doesn't really seem to care. 2 good reasons for 2nd. opinion in my book.

well one way or another i will need bloodwork done so i may as well keep my apt (my other dog is gettin her yearly vaccinations also fri), and i emailed purdue and they answered and said they sent my email to the vet school and they will get back to me soon. also they said that i cant take my pet there unless my vet calls them for referral or consultation first:( so i may need him after all at least for that. I tried looking for a small dog vet in my area and i couldnt find anything online, so i will prob have to call around and see who i like best. Can you just meet vets and decide who you like before taking your pet there? lol that would be nice cuz there are a few in lafayette area and i wanna make sure if i am switching that i am gettin the best i can so i dont have to switch again

seschna 04-05-2010 04:28 PM

timmy is extra excited tonight. Its SO cute!:D times like this not only make it worth it, but make me def believe that whatever this stupid problem is, it CANT possibly be that serious when hes so happy and healthy otherwise. Still need to know though, cuz i just CANT stand not knowing the answer to things, and i think it started at our house, so i feel like theres a cure of some kind

kay deem 04-06-2010 08:43 AM

Kay person is back. I am traveling from Florida to Virginia on to West Virginia with 4 yorkies 1 1/2 years to 10+ years old. This is my second set of adults. I had a trio prior to this. (yorkies are like potato chips, you cant have just one;)) It is shocking to me that the vet didn't want renal function and hepatic function blood values on this little guy. Given his questionable background, that should have been the first baseline information gathered. These little creatures are notorious for bad teeth that lead to bacterial gingivitis, leading to coronary valve disease and poor cardiac function that eventually efffects their kidneys, liver and overall health. Is there a vetrinary school close to you? I had great success with one of my first dogs by taking him to OSU vetrinary school of medicine. They Brainstormed and came up with diagnosis and treatment that sustained my little guy for two more healthy years. My "hometown vet" wanted euthanasia, but I refused. My Vet was gracious enough to let OSU lead him in treating my dog. The cost was less than the multiple trips to the vet and emergency vet clinic. If you can connect with a school like that, the "Braintrust" was invaluable. I think you are making good choices, and this forum is awesome. Good Luck and I will continue to follow.

seschna 04-06-2010 10:31 AM

i emailed a good vet place in my area, and they emailed me back right away saying that they showed it to all their vets on staff, and what my vet has done is the same tests they would do. they suggested that i try to take him to purdue, which was prob my next step. Only thing is, aside from purdue needing a referral from my vet, its EXPENSIVE ive been told (even the school). So after the bloodwork..if it doesnt tell us anything i will probably just keep feeding him like i am, or try mashing/blending his kibble and see how that goes for a while until i can save up some more money. He is so happy and healthy otherwise, so i dont think this problem is bothering him at all, or that its that serious. maybe hes just a snotty boy who needs some benedryl like the first vet suggested lol i wont try that for quite a while but we'll see
he is SO cute when hes happy and excited:)

i will say im SO glad i got him, despite the problem, b/c i know SEVERAL ppl that would have given up on him long ago and he would either be back in the system or homeless:(
DOGS are like BABIES...you wouldn't give your baby away b/c it has health problems! so why is it ok to do that for your dog~!!!

seschna 04-06-2010 06:16 PM

is it allergies after all!?
 
Allergies and Allergens

Surprisingly, dogs suffer from many of the same allergens as people do. These can include foods, milk products, pollen, grass, trees, types of fabrics, types of rubbers or plastics, dust, dust mites, mold, other pets, pet dander and flea bites.
Symptoms of Allergies

Dogs suffering from allergies will display their symptoms through itching and various skin issues. This may appear as excessive scratching, rubbing their face or body against furniture, corners or the floor, hair losshttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif or excessive damage to the skin. Your dog's feet may become irritated, especially if he's excessively chewing on them.
Post-nasal Drip

Post-nasal drip occurs when a dog's sinuses secrete an excessive amount of mucus, which drains down the throat rather than being relieved through the nose. It may or may not occur simultaneously with allergies. However, it is not uncommon for dogs to display this symptom when suffering from year-round or seasonal inhaled allergies or food allergies. In most cases, post-nasal drip can be managed with medication in addition to isolating and removing the cause.
Symptoms of Canine Post-nasal Drip

The most common sign of post-nasal drip is constant swallowing to relieve congestion or drainage. He may also wheeze and cough, or have an extremely foul breath. Lastly, he may appear to have a lack of enthusiasm for feeding time. All of this can be due to post-nasal drip in the beginning stages or after an infection occurs from the excessive bacteria and mucus.

seschna 04-09-2010 12:26 PM

bloodtest
 
Did the bloodtests today. I dont really understand any of it at all! but the doc said everything was normal except an elevated level of something... which apparently points us back to allergies of some sort. No idea what kind of allergy, as it can be a billion different things! but it still is most likely a food allergy i guess. So now im gonna go through the 3 foods he's been on since i got him and see if there are any similar ingredients. If that doesnt help, its an elimination diet eventually or doing a allergy panel that will steer us in right direction. Im not too worried about it b/c he is so happy and healthy anyway, but i really would like to get rid of the allergen if possible so he can be EVEN BETTER!
:animal36

seschna 04-09-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3044630)
Interesting. I would stick with the wet food then. You know...one thought may be that he is allergic to corn. That is often in dry food .. and not in canned. I have not seen that type of allergic reaction, but I think anything is possible? I don't know...kind of a stretch I guess. :p

i know this was an old post, but i had to respond. Now that we are leaning toward allergies, i printed lists of all ingredients in all 4 foods he has eaten since i got him, and trying to narrow down what it could be. Most of the foods had same ingredients for most part, but the canned food (he didnt throw up on) does not have corn or corn gluten meal or corn meal...ALL other 3 had one of those in it. Thats my best lead right now, and if not ill have to do more research. The Purina he was on didnt have any of t he same ingredients other than vitamins that were similar to the other 3 foods, but that food made him throw up WORSE..so that could have been corn or could have been the salmon (main ingredient) being to powerful for him..so many options and they all take so much time...vet said it could take 6-8 wks to see full results once the allergen is identified and removed!!! prob will do the allergen test thing to steer us in direction if the corn thing doesnt work. Im going to blend up the dry food hes on now first thou, and see if that works. If it does, it may not be a food allergen after all. His problem is scratching and nasal drip i believe (i think that causes the sticky throw up)

dwerten 04-09-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by seschna (Post 3077435)
i know this was an old post, but i had to respond. Now that we are leaning toward allergies, i printed lists of all ingredients in all 4 foods he has eaten since i got him, and trying to narrow down what it could be. Most of the foods had same ingredients for most part, but the canned food (he didnt throw up on) does not have corn or corn gluten meal or corn meal...ALL other 3 had one of those in it. Thats my best lead right now, and if not ill have to do more research. The Purina he was on didnt have any of t he same ingredients other than vitamins that were similar to the other 3 foods, but that food made him throw up WORSE..so that could have been corn or could have been the salmon (main ingredient) being to powerful for him..so many options and they all take so much time...vet said it could take 6-8 wks to see full results once the allergen is identified and removed!!! prob will do the allergen test thing to steer us in direction if the corn thing doesnt work. Im going to blend up the dry food hes on now first thou, and see if that works. If it does, it may not be a food allergen after all. His problem is scratching and nasal drip i believe (i think that causes the sticky throw up)

blood cannot determine food allergy just elimination diet can so do not waste your money on a blood allergy test. IBD is a food intolerance which is what i have said all along :( food allergy is when they itch from a food not vomit from it

seschna 04-09-2010 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3077760)
blood cannot determine food allergy just elimination diet can so do not waste your money on a blood allergy test. IBD is a food intolerance which is what i have said all along :( food allergy is when they itch from a food not vomit from it

well he does itch around his mouth and licks/bites his front paws, which is a symptom of a food allergy. i think the vomit is only b/c of excess snot problems of some kind. Im not gonna do the blood allergy test until later if my elimination gets me nowhere. Vet said it will just steer us in right direction with what types of food hes most allergic to. But i looked it up and it says most food allergies are caused by beef, chicken, corn, milk products, and fish, and a few other things. So im starting with the corn bc its the only one the wet food didnt have that the rest did. After that ill change away from chicken probably and see if that helps. The salmon food he was on made him worse, and doesnt list chicken, but it does list animal fat with somethin weird in it, and my other food listed chicken fat with the same weird thing in it, so i wonder if there was chicken fat in the salmon diet. Im still trying, but im gonna do the blended kibble first to see if he can eat that without throw up. Im NOT looking forward to months upon months of diet trials.:( And all these ppl say the food has JUST basics in it, when in reality it has a CRAP LOAD of other stuff in it. Most of the ingredients in all the foods ive tried are same!! So we'll see.

Buddy2010 04-09-2010 07:51 PM

Yorkie Vomiting
 
Congratulations on getting your Yorkie! I recently got a male Yorkie pup from a really nice lady! They are a lot of fun to have around! Plus they are one of the great breed of dogs that you could ever own! As far as the vomiting thing goes, I would take him to a vet to make sure that there is something going on with his digestive system or something. Yorkies have very sensitive digestive systems and stuff. As far as Purina food, that is a very good brand! I have always used Purina food with my animals and they absolutely love it and it's healthy for them! But like I said, take your Yorkie to the vet and get checked to see if there is something going on that may be causing the vomiting. God Bless and good-luck!

dwerten 04-10-2010 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by seschna (Post 3077962)
well he does itch around his mouth and licks/bites his front paws, which is a symptom of a food allergy. i think the vomit is only b/c of excess snot problems of some kind. Im not gonna do the blood allergy test until later if my elimination gets me nowhere. Vet said it will just steer us in right direction with what types of food hes most allergic to. But i looked it up and it says most food allergies are caused by beef, chicken, corn, milk products, and fish, and a few other things. So im starting with the corn bc its the only one the wet food didnt have that the rest did. After that ill change away from chicken probably and see if that helps. The salmon food he was on made him worse, and doesnt list chicken, but it does list animal fat with somethin weird in it, and my other food listed chicken fat with the same weird thing in it, so i wonder if there was chicken fat in the salmon diet. Im still trying, but im gonna do the blended kibble first to see if he can eat that without throw up. Im NOT looking forward to months upon months of diet trials.:( And all these ppl say the food has JUST basics in it, when in reality it has a CRAP LOAD of other stuff in it. Most of the ingredients in all the foods ive tried are same!! So we'll see.

blood cannot determine food allergy only environmental allergy so again it is a waste of money :( and it is not cheap to get this done it cost about $400

seschna 04-10-2010 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3078534)
blood cannot determine food allergy only environmental allergy so again it is a waste of money :( and it is not cheap to get this done it cost about $400

weird, my vet said 140 for the food panel...but again, not doin it yet anyway...im just gonna try to figure it out on my own by elimination. as long as my baby is happy and healthy im happy:) i just really wanted to figure it out to help him even more if possible

seschna 04-11-2010 07:59 AM

blended food
 
well i blended up his Royal canin 1/8 cup with 1/8 cup water last nite, covered and put in fridge. This morning i microwaved it for a few seconds to get it luke warm (i figured the cold may hurt is bad gums?) and fed him the whole meal at once and NO THROW UP! It had a few chunks in it as well, and he still did fine:D he let out 2 ENORMOUS burps after but still good. I still think he may need a new food, bc of the itching around face and stuff, but im gonna keep him on the royal canin for at least a month or 2 just in case, since the vet said it can take that long to see results when an allergy is removed. After that, if he still throws up or sounds sticky on Royal Canin, ill probably switch to something with no corn to see if that could be it, as its the ONLY thing thats not in the Euk canned he was on that he had no problems with. At this point it could be any allergy b/c i think he just has a lot of snot or nasal drip that makes it hard to eat hard food for some reason, and the wet/mashed food could just be working bc its easier to get it passed the snottyness. at least i know what works and is quicker!! BUT I wish i knew what the allergy was so my baby could never have to be around it again! :animal36

seschna 04-11-2010 01:23 PM

anyone have an opinion on blue buffalo basics with turkey and potatoes? i bought royal canin again, b/c i need him to be on it at least a month to make sure theres no improvement before switching, but i am considering Blue Basics for my next try. It is supposed to be ONLY basic things, so that should eliminate the allergy definitely! Then i can start adding things to see what the allergen was i guess, or just stick to it forever if it is good and gives him all he needs (not sure bout that). But i read several reviews and some ppl HATE it and some ppl LOVE it, so im on the fence. Also one thing ppl complained about were these tiny black pieces in it that were supposed to be antioxidants or something that ppl say their dogs WONT eat at all, and they feel like they're wastin money b.c of this. Any opinions out there?! i will keep blending his royal canin for now, then toward the end of this new bag i will start the dry again and see if he still throws up, if he does, its clearly not working and i will switch again. i DEFINITELY will pay more attn to the ingredients next time, now that i feel im an expert! lol Timmy needs JUST BASICS so we can see if it really is an allergic reaction to something in the food. Blue does not use corn, wheat, eggs, dairy products, or byproducts, so it sounds like a good start b/c i think tim may be allergic to corn. If its not the corn, it may be a fish reaction bc he got WAY worse on the salmon food he was on, and none of the others had fish, but they did have fish oil & meal or salmon oil & meal..so i was thinkin that could be still causing the allergic reaction/?:confused:

seschna 04-15-2010 06:55 AM

once i find a food thats good for timmys problems (if possible), i am hoping to switch Spice to it as well if possible....is there any problems with that? Its just SO HARD to keep them away from each others food...now that i sped up timmys eating with blended food, spice takes forever eating her kibble and i dont wanna lock up timmy cuz hes done. And of course my prissy Spice wont eat if shes locked away somewhere. My next try is DEF Natures Balance with venison and sweet potato for timmy. Does that food give ALL the nutrients they need so i can switch spice too (if it works for timmy first) and keep them on it forever if it works or no?? i know its kindof only basics...

BellaRose55 04-15-2010 11:07 AM

I haven't read all these posts but had the same problem with Pie before I got him neutered. The vet put him on graduates (Gerbers baby chicken sticks) and Pedigree healthy digestion in a can. Also we bought some nutri-Cal and Pie just loves it. Whenever his stomach is upset I just squeeze some out and he licks it off my finger. I have always stuck with Royal Canine for Yorkies as his dry food. His main diet is boiled chicken legs. I boil them and cut them up really fine. I use to feed him chicken livers and they were simply to strong for his system.
Also I think worth noting (if it hasn't already been noted) is that Yorkie's are an extremely sensitive breed and are upset but the smallest of things. It is good for them to be in an envirnoment where they are safe and secure.
Best of luck to you and your puppy!

seschna 04-15-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BellaRose55 (Post 3086273)
I haven't read all these posts but had the same problem with Pie before I got him neutered. The vet put him on graduates (Gerbers baby chicken sticks) and Pedigree healthy digestion in a can. Also we bought some nutri-Cal and Pie just loves it. Whenever his stomach is upset I just squeeze some out and he licks it off my finger. I have always stuck with Royal Canine for Yorkies as his dry food. His main diet is boiled chicken legs. I boil them and cut them up really fine. I use to feed him chicken livers and they were simply to strong for his system.
Also I think worth noting (if it hasn't already been noted) is that Yorkie's are an extremely sensitive breed and are upset but the smallest of things. It is good for them to be in an envirnoment where they are safe and secure.
Best of luck to you and your puppy!

Well my yorkie is 3 yrs old and has this problem:( and Royal canin doenst seem to be working either. Did you ever find out what was causing your yorkies similar problem? I have my next food picked out for trial, but i may pick up some of those baby chicken stix and see how he does tonite...
my baby is def safe and secure:) and he is ADORABLE now that hes coming out of his shell and he seems SO happy. I hate this mess with eating, and the stress, but I LOVE MY BABY and im so glad hes with us and not less understanding people

seschna 04-15-2010 05:49 PM

gave timmy the baby gerber chicken stix tonite, and im still unsure if hes allergic/intolerant to chicken:( i gave him two whole ones, and he regurgitated a little bit, but managed to keep most of it in his mouth. then i gave him two more mashed up and he was fine with no problems. I didnt think he had a chicken problem, b/c he got worse on the salmon food, which didnt have chicken in it at all. I also bought some baby food corn, so im gonna maybe try that tomorrow and see if he reacts to it. If not, ill prob just keep blendin his food as i have been until the bag is gone and then buy the new stuff i wanna try for him.

seschna 04-16-2010 07:07 AM

gave timmy a little bit of baby food corn..he licked it once or 2ce then didnt wanna touch it. I coaxed him into eating a little bit more to see if there was a reaction and all he did was lick a few more times, burp loud, then scratch his face once. Then refused to touch it again, so i stopped. I dont know if this is intolerance and he is smart enough to stay away when its pure corn or if corn is just not tasty to him, but the fact that he burped after eating a few licks of it may suggest something in my opinion (bc hes ALWAYS so gassy when he eats and he was DEF not gulping this down so we know its not caused by that this time). I gave spice some too and she ate it right up and seemed to like it, so MAYBE timmy is trying to help me out by not eating it! lol i know, foolish hopes, but corn was my first guess..and now i am still wondering. I fed him his normal meal after, but I feel so bad when he gets done eating and scratches his face constantly.

BellaRose55 04-16-2010 02:20 PM

Yes, the vet that I used to use told me it was from some disease they get from filth. I'm alittle OCD so I know that wasn't the case. Now I did have a planter that I would put water in and the birds would drink from it. So I thought maybe that was the cause. I really don't know. I stopped using this vet as they weren't much help to me. I now take Pie to a vet that has been practicing for over 40 years and they are so wonderful. They have a ranch and treat all animals.
Pie got sick just before I had him nuetered. The doctor kept him over night and when he came home he had a small cut in is neck with stiches. I think maybe they inserted a tube in him there for hydration. The vet spent the night there at the clinic with Pie. I would be more than happy to share the name and number of my vet if you would like. Seems there is more than allergies with your pup.
I know you love your puppy. Anybody that owns a Yorkie and doesn't honestly believe they truly are our angels ..... well they just never had a Yorkie. Please keep me posted!

seschna 04-17-2010 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BellaRose55 (Post 3088371)
Yes, the vet that I used to use told me it was from some disease they get from filth. I'm alittle OCD so I know that wasn't the case. Now I did have a planter that I would put water in and the birds would drink from it. So I thought maybe that was the cause. I really don't know. I stopped using this vet as they weren't much help to me. I now take Pie to a vet that has been practicing for over 40 years and they are so wonderful. They have a ranch and treat all animals.
Pie got sick just before I had him nuetered. The doctor kept him over night and when he came home he had a small cut in is neck with stiches. I think maybe they inserted a tube in him there for hydration. The vet spent the night there at the clinic with Pie. I would be more than happy to share the name and number of my vet if you would like. Seems there is more than allergies with your pup.
I know you love your puppy. Anybody that owns a Yorkie and doesn't honestly believe they truly are our angels ..... well they just never had a Yorkie. Please keep me posted!

see, hes in a clean home/environment now, but before i got him a couple months ago who knows:( so i guess its possible it was a filth prob, but i assume that would have gone away by now. i think food intolerance, and we are tryin things out still to find out:)

seschna 04-17-2010 05:25 PM

anyone with experience with allergies, would the dog try to stay away from it if possible? I gave timmy some baby food corn, mixed in with a bit of food and he at all the rest and left the corn. He did end up eating a little of it after i coaxed him a bit (poor baby tried to get the food pieces out and leave the corn) then he literally backed away from it whenever i tried to offer the corn again.
Can he be tryin to tell me something or does he just not like taste of corn? lol

seschna 04-18-2010 07:29 AM

timmy either coughed up flem, or vomited last nite in the bed and ON SPICE! it was only on tip of her tail..and slimy, but i didnt hear him makin any noises last night so i dont know if its a good thing (like when humans can get their flem from a cold out) or a bad thing, b/c he has never done anything like this at nite before when he hadnt eaten recently

seschna 04-21-2010 02:51 AM

treat from 1800petmeds
 
So you kno that giant treat that comes in the 1800 petmeds box when you order somethin from there? Well i split it in half and gave it to timmy and spice and Timmy ate ALL of his half within 5-10 min and had NO PROBLEMS. It was huge and harder than dog food and yet, he ate it with no burping, scratching, or coughing afterwards! I looked it up and they have all kinds of ingredients in them, some that are same as dog food, so i am baffled. I know its not the consistency of his food thats the problem here, so it HAS to be something in it. I mean, poor baby scratched his face so hard after breakfast yesterday that he started making crying sounds like a baby until i made him stop! it was sad. :(
I CANT WAIT TO GET THIS FOOD BAG OVER AND CHANGE HIM TO THE NATURAL BALANCE VENISON/SWEET POTATO!!

its very discouraging to have to keep a food for SO LONG when you feel like its not working

seschna 04-26-2010 10:56 AM

I know this probably doesn't mean much but i fed timmy his mid-day 1/8 cup of food NON BLENDED and he didn't throw up!! this is HUGE improvement. Im not sure why..and i did make him stop every few min to see how his reaction was (and he burped in middle of meal) but he did SO MUCH BETTER than usual. Im so PROUD of my baby, but now im considering buying another bag of royal canin just in case it IS working for him after all.

So PROUD of my baby boy today...im gonna try again tonite and see if this really is an improvement

seschna 04-26-2010 06:48 PM

timmy did well with dinner! I had to help him a bit and make sure he didnt eat TOO much at once, but he did well. He once regurgitated in his mouth i think, and swallowed it and then was fine..other than that he ate his whole meal fine with one burp. IM SO PROUD! im gonna buy ONE more bag of RC to see if he continues to improve before i switch again. I hope he gets better...RC is expensive which sucks, but if he gets better I DONT CARE! itll be great to see him eat like a normal baby should!

seschna 04-27-2010 05:53 AM

not a good morning..timmy threw up/regurgitated SEVERAL times with breakfast..poor baby:( its looks exactly the same as always, but its not as sticky..i dont know if thats an indication of anythin or not, so i will be calling the vet today to ask. Hes almost out of food so i need to know whether to give up on rc or not!

seschna 05-03-2010 07:00 PM

Timmy is officially on the natural balance sweet pot and venison as of today. And its been nothing but vomit vomit vomit!!! even blended he throws it up:( but i am hoping that maybe hes clearing all the snot out of his throat and once he gets used to it he will be better...FINGERS AND PAWS CROSSED! if this food doesnt work, he definitely has something else going on, b/c this food has NOTHING in it that he has eaten before (which would rule out allergy/intolerance), and the pieces are huge compared to the old stuff, so gulping is DEF not going on...

it really depresses me when my baby throws up...i try to comfort him and pet him, but still so sad that he cant control it


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