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01-30-2010, 01:48 PM | #226 |
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| You guys have all been a TON of help...in many ways!! I gave Cinnamon the dropper and she did fine...I think I will do this with Cadbury in a few minutes. The puppies' current weights are: Cinnamon: 6.7 (birth weight was 3.4) Cupcake: 7.1 (birth weight was 4.1) Cadbury: 8.3 (birth weight was 4.4) Part of their weight could be from the sub-q fluids from this morning, though....not sure. At one week, shouldn't they be double their birth weight? They were such chubby babies before all of this. |
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01-30-2010, 01:51 PM | #227 | |
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01-30-2010, 02:08 PM | #228 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | Tammy sending out prayers and support for your whole family - most especially Livi and her pups. Glad to hear the eye dropper worked well for you
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01-30-2010, 02:17 PM | #229 |
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01-30-2010, 02:37 PM | #230 |
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| Tammy, I looked in my puppy pages book and Sebi and Gidg did NOT double their birth weight by week 1. Sebi only gained 2.3 oz and Gidg a little more. They sound like they are a decent weight. I think it's good.
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01-30-2010, 02:50 PM | #231 |
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| Tammy, the best thing for getting the milk to drop is for Levi to eat a lot of good healthy food and for the pups to suckle. I pray the worst is behind you and that Levi and her babies start doing well. I have shared this article on YT before and I am not sure if you every read it: http://www.showpapillons.com/formula.htm The 10th paragraph has a glucose solution you can make to give to the pups in addition to the milk. I have used it before to supplement a runt puppies and they always seem to really pick up on the nursing and gaining weight. |
01-30-2010, 03:21 PM | #232 |
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| I read that you can give her a little beer to help the milk. One of my moms got sick and was dehydrated for a few days and lost her milk, I kept letting the pups nurse and her milk came back after she got to geeling better. I fed her water and melted ice cream with a syringe until she would eat and drink on her own. |
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01-30-2010, 04:13 PM | #234 | |
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Mary Do you use the Raspberry syrup? also would you post a list of all of the mes/preeparations that you have on hand for whelping? I'm sure many of us will find it helpful to know what experienced breeders have on hand. | |
01-30-2010, 04:43 PM | #235 | |
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| I'm glad you took them all to the vet. I have found someone in your area who can show you how to tube feed, but it sounds like you are doing fine with the dropper. Just send me a message if you change your mind. It could be that if the puppies will nurse a little that her milk will start to come in. Even weak puppies will normally nurse strongly for a short time if you try it a few minutes after they get a little sugar of some sort. Do you have nutridrops or even just a bottle of 50% dextrose? Give the puppies a dose of one of these things and then see if they will nurse a little. You may already have this recipe, I am sending it just in case. It is Terri Shumsky's pudding recipe. It will help the milk come in and it is good for your mother if she is not eating/feeling well. Mix large 4 cup size vanilla pudding, 1/2 cup sugar, 4 cups of milk, and 4 egg yolks. Cook on low heat to pudding consistency and offer to new mother at body temperature. She can eat as much as she wants. Has never caused diarrhea and brings in abundance of milk!!! OR from scratch... mix the following in a saucepan and cook to pudding consistency. 2/3 cup sugar 6 tablespoons cornstarch 1/2 teas salt 4 cups milk (or one can evap milk plus equal parts water to make quart) 4 egg yolks 3 teasp vanilla. feed with syringe, on spoon, or let eat from bowl. full of protein and nourishment....have never had it cause diarrhea. Quote:
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01-30-2010, 06:44 PM | #236 | |
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Does anyone know why the vet is opposed to Livi getting the Oxy shot...she wanted to her to have the Oxy nasal, but really does not want to give the shot...but said she would if she just had to. One more question....should the puppies gain weight everytime that I feed them? Their little tummies feel and look round, but when I weigh them, it stays at the exact same weight. Is this normal? Will it start to increase the more that I am feeding them? | |
01-30-2010, 06:48 PM | #237 | |
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01-30-2010, 06:50 PM | #238 |
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| Tammy I so sorry for all you've have gone through. Livi and her puppies are very lucky to have such a devoted family caring for them. I had to feed Harmony's small girl for over a week. The bottle didn't work for us so I used a tiny syringe. I would give her some nutridrops right before feeding her and it seemed to really help. It worked out great because I could control the flow and amount so much easier. Harmony didn't have much milk either when her pups were born. It took over a week for it to come in strong but the whelping pudding and letting the pups try to nurse helped bring it in. Just make sure Livi is getting some calcium and being stimulated. There is a supplement called Happy Jack Milkaid that is suppose to bring in the milk and is said to be successful even when previous litters there was none. Maybe you can have it rushed to you right away? Milkade They didn't double their weight their first week either. Angel really worried me because for a few days it didn't seem she was gaining any weight. But her tummy was full and she seemed content. She did start gaining afterwords just took some time. Just as long as they aren't losing they should be alright. I wish you lived closer, Destiny wouldn't mind being a donor mommy and she has more milk right now than she knows what to do with.
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01-30-2010, 06:53 PM | #239 | |
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01-30-2010, 07:01 PM | #240 | |
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Some vets are opposed to giving the oxy shot for a multitude of reasons; if given too soon, it can cause a prolapse uterus; if an overdose is given it can cause arrythmias (abnoral beat), so the heart must be monitored. But, if given at the right dose it shouldn't cause any problems. Most vets administer about 1/2 cc for a toy breed. My vet always recommends 1/4 cc. I know nothing of the nasal Oxy....but, for the life of me with Livi's retained placenta, I would think the Oxy shot would be in order. Since Livi was at the Vet's, being administered IV, did the vet tell you if she'd passed the retained placenta? They should be gaining weight daily, an average of an ounce a day.....as long as they aren't losing. My hand feed pups didn't begin gaining until the 2nd week, they even lost weight until I switched them to Goat's milk. They are over a week of age. Instead of an eyedropper, try attaching a preemie nipple to the syringe and see if they'll take it. They should be taking more than 2 or 3 cc now....Just from my experience by the 2nd week my kids were taking about 12 cc about every 4 hours.....by week 3 1/2 they were taking about 64 cc about every 6 hours. It's when I realized these kids could be weaned to lapping.....
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