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chachi 01-27-2010 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 2974124)
my dog has horrible allergies, suppressed immune system with temarilp for 2 years and horrible allergies since 6 months old and does not have demodex and never has and she is also hypothyroid as well which is a suppressed immune system disease. She does not have demodex so she would be a perfect candidate if it was soley on immune system and that was all it was based on so this comes from the mama dog and is transmitted to the babies sadly :( My friends dog has no allergies, no thyroid issues and has this and has had it since a pup and she is a puppy mill pup

the prob is people keep inbreeding the heck out of this breed and we end up with all these dogs with poor immune system issues like this just like if we inbred humans we would have major issues :( and these poor dogs and owners suffer
I dont know My dog that had it hasnt had another incident of it hes 5 now. Nor is he a sickly dog. Ive only taken him to the vet one time in 5 yrs for illness and that was because as a pup he got diahrea

dwerten 01-27-2010 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 2974112)
I believe it can be passed on by the mother dog. What I am saying is a dog can get it at any age since all dogs have mites
is your dog cured of this? what worked for your dog as may help her as well to know what treatment worked

dwerten 01-27-2010 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 2974134)
I dont know My dog that had it hasnt had another incident of it hes 5 now. Nor is he a sickly dog. Ive only taken him to the vet one time in 5 yrs for illness and that was because as a pup he got diahrea
that is great as it is usually very hard to get rid of as my friend has had a nightmare with it :(

chachi 01-27-2010 08:55 AM
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is your dog cured of this? what worked for your dog as may help her as well to know what treatment worked
Chachi was put on medicated shampoo and he went through 6 dips at the vets

dwerten 01-27-2010 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 2974144)
Chachi was put on medicated shampoo and he went through 6 dips at the vets
yeah the dips are pretty potent as well - all drugs for this one are strong sadly :( what are you feeding your pup? This might help too as diet has alot to do with a health immune system

JonlyCajunQueen 01-27-2010 10:43 AM
So sad
 
Sorry to hear about your furbaby! Prayers are coming your way...hope all gets better.

dwerten 01-27-2010 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 2974144)
Chachi was put on medicated shampoo and he went through 6 dips at the vets
just want to be sure - are you sure your dog did not have sarcoptic mange instead of demodex because they usually dip for sarcoptic not demodex just curious as this hit me when driving to work. My grandma's dog had scabies ( sarcoptic mange) and she got it and it is contagious unlike demodex - her dog was dipped a couple times - so we used revolution on dee dee since she was around him to make sure that was not causing the itching - we did two rounds of it as mites are sometimes hard to detect

Tessa Arnold 01-27-2010 10:56 AM
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Thanks in advance
I'm losing my 12 year old Yorkie 1 day at a time, she has scabs all over her, nobody seams to be able to tell us whats wrong, the vets don't know, we have switched food thinking allergies, we have had antibiotics, we have used many different shampoos, oinments, but the scabs keep multiplying, shes losing weight, no energy, she is still eating good, I would like to see if someone in South Florida knows of a vet school where many people can look at her and possibly somebody might find an answer before shes gone.:(
Thanks
Arthur
This happened to Hunter and we took him to a holistic vet. We also took him 100% off dog food and fed him rice and chicken and veggies. He also had to have a shot every couple days for about a month or two. I'm not sure what the shot was though. He also had special shampoo. It took months but all his hair grew back and he gained weight. He was about 12 also when this happened. Hope this helps a little. My advise is to talk to a holistic vet. This is what saved Hunter.

ladyjane 01-27-2010 11:20 AM
The number one treatment for Demodectic mange is Ivermectin. Rescues see a lot of this and it is successfully treated.
Just because your pup has it does not mean he is immuno-suppressed.
I would trust the dermatologist and his/her recommendations. I am happy to hear they are doing a full work up prior to starting treatment.
Once they give you a plan of action, ask a lot of questions and do some reading on the web so that you fully understand what is going on. That way should there be any adverse reactions, you will be aware!

dwerten 01-27-2010 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Tessa Arnold (Post 2974324)
This happened to Hunter and we took him to a holistic vet. We also took him 100% off dog food and fed him rice and chicken and veggies. He also had to have a shot every couple days for about a month or two. I'm not sure what the shot was though. He also had special shampoo. It took months but all his hair grew back and he gained weight. He was about 12 also when this happened. Hope this helps a little. My advise is to talk to a holistic vet. This is what saved Hunter.
can you find out what injection was as i would be curious to see what this was

ivermectin has always been used but the new thing is promeris that they are using so hoping derm is up on latest as well - i called our derm she just said some dogs get sick on it which bummed me out ;(

ladyjane 01-27-2010 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 2974455)
can you find out what injection was as i would be curious to see what this was

ivermectin has always been used but the new thing is promeris that they are using so hoping derm is up on latest as well - i called our derm she just said some dogs get sick on it which bummed me out ;(

I think if you Google Promeris problems you will be surprised and not so quick to recommend it.

dwerten 01-27-2010 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 2974475)
I think if you Google Promeris problems you will be surprised and not so quick to recommend it.
ivermectin is not the greatest either sadly and why off label and not fda approved ;( same as revolution for scabies - all those flea meds have their issues sadly and why thank goodness i do not have to use them - I just know a few yorkies that had demodex and it worked for them and owner was happy - i would definitely discuss with dermatologist and get their input regarding the 3 different options for sure - ivermectin, interceptor daily small dose, and promeris as those are the only options that i have heard of

but please check the shampoo they give you and if it has ketoconazole in I personally would not use it --I think my friend uses the benzoyl peroxide on her dog with demodex -i will email her

ladyjane 01-27-2010 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 2974513)
ivermectin is not the greatest either sadly and why off label and not fda approved ;( same as revolution for scabies - all those flea meds have their issues sadly and why thank goodness i do not have to use them - I just know a few yorkies that had demodex and it worked for them and owner was happy - i would definitely discuss with dermatologist and get their input regarding the 3 different options for sure - ivermectin, interceptor daily small dose, and promeris as those are the only options that i have heard of

but please check the shampoo they give you and if it has ketoconazole in I personally would not use it --I think my friend uses the benzoyl peroxide on her dog with demodex -i will email her
Ivermectin may not be wonderful, but it works for many things. Heartworms for one. I have thankfully never lost a pup who went through heartworm treatment and have no problems with Heartgard.

As for any type of treatment....certainly explore all options with the vet and do your own research as well! It is always wise to be an educated consumer.

I cannot imagine they would suggest an anti fungal shampoo for this pup...this is not a fungal issue!

dwerten 01-27-2010 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 2974525)
Ivermectin may not be wonderful, but it works for many things. Heartworms for one. I have thankfully never lost a pup who went through heartworm treatment and have no problems with Heartgard.

As for any type of treatment....certainly explore all options with the vet and do your own research as well! It is always wise to be an educated consumer.

I cannot imagine they would suggest an anti fungal shampoo for this pup...this is not a fungal issue!
yeah my friend's dog did not either and a bc dermatologist gave my friends dog an antifungal drug and ivermectin - it was REALLY UGLY she almost died - I will find the thread as i posted on here about it

alot of the shampoos have ketoconazole in it so check the ingredients

dwerten 01-27-2010 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 2974525)
Ivermectin may not be wonderful, but it works for many things. Heartworms for one. I have thankfully never lost a pup who went through heartworm treatment and have no problems with Heartgard.

As for any type of treatment....certainly explore all options with the vet and do your own research as well! It is always wise to be an educated consumer.

I cannot imagine they would suggest an anti fungal shampoo for this pup...this is not a fungal issue!
so you use heart guard over interceptor? I know many prefer interceptor to heart guard any insight on that as just curious even though thank goodness does not affect mine but i know you know alot about things and wanted your take on that

good point to bring up too - is this dog on heartguard already for heartworm as that is important for derm to know as well which i am sure they will ask


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