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Wylie's Mom 01-20-2010 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by junodale (Post 2964702)
Wylie's mom: no cultures, I'll call and see if I can afford it, I would love to find a solution and no on the vet dermatologist, I didn't know they had doggie dermos.

Thanks all
Arthur
Oh gosh...I don't know if you need to start at the Vet School then, unless you really want to...?

If a basic skin culture hasn't even been done yet - or even a scraping, which can immediately be looked at under scope - then you may want to start there, bc you could get a diagnosis VERY quickly.

So, when you wrote: "nobody seams to be able to tell us whats wrong, the vets don't know" -- what did the vets do to test her skin?

To recap, what you can do right away is - take her in, they can do a scraping, and then both look at it under scope to see if she is full of bacteria (staph infection), but they can then also grow this out in culture for at least 10 days to see if she also has fungus, which would not surprise me.

Please do this soon - staph is dangerous when left unchecked.

ARCHIE 01-20-2010 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Patti (Post 2964733)
Sorry to hear about your baby. My pom had what sounds like the same symptoms. She had scab like spot all over and they would peel off and be raw underneath, lost weight but had a great appetite, lethargic and also drank a lot of water. After many tests and treating her for Thyroid disease with no improvement I took her to a dermatologist and she was diagnosed with Cushing's Disease. She was almost 10 and lived another 2 years with treatment. I would ask your vet to either test for that or recommend a dermatologist or internist. I hope you can get some answers soon.

Patti,
What other symptoms come with Cushing's Desease? I am just
wondering if that may have been what Teddy had. We went to
several vet's and not one mentioned it. The holistic vet did
mention a psychiatrist! I thought she was nut's!

ARCHIE 01-20-2010 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ARCHIE (Post 2964746)
Patti,
What other symptoms come with Cushing's Desease? I am just
wondering if that may have been what Teddy had. We went to
several vet's and not one mentioned it. The holistic vet did
mention a psychiatrist! I thought she was nut's!

I looked it up and that's no what Teddy looked like.
Thanks but maybe the OP can ask his vet to check his pup.


Sorry you pup went threw that terrible desease.

dwerten 01-20-2010 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Patti (Post 2964733)
Sorry to hear about your baby. My pom had what sounds like the same symptoms. She had scab like spot all over and they would peel off and be raw underneath, lost weight but had a great appetite, lethargic and also drank a lot of water. After many tests and treating her for Thyroid disease with no improvement I took her to a dermatologist and she was diagnosed with Cushing's Disease. She was almost 10 and lived another 2 years with treatment. I would ask your vet to either test for that or recommend a dermatologist or internist. I hope you can get some answers soon.
cushings is another possibility so good post--- was blood work done on this dog and was anything high or low normal or high or low?

Patti 01-20-2010 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ARCHIE (Post 2964764)
I looked it up and that's no what Teddy looked like.
Thanks but maybe the OP can ask his vet to check his pup.


Sorry you pup went threw that terrible desease.
Thanks. Maya's body was pretty much covered too and she itched so bad and panted all the time. It is a bad disease and one a lot of vets miss in diagnosing. That had to be so miserable for your little terrier.

Wylie's Mom 01-20-2010 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 2964777)
cushings is another possibility so good post--- was blood work done on this dog and was anything high or low normal or high or low?
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Originally Posted by Patti (Post 2964783)
Thanks. Maya's body was pretty much covered too and she itched so bad and panted all the time. It is a bad disease and one a lot of vets miss in diagnosing. That had to be so miserable for your little terrier.
Good points Debbie and Pattie. Ongoing skin probs were what led to Wylie's Atypical Cushing's diagnosis...and I couldn't agree more about the misdiagnosis - it is tough to diagnose, and just as tough to treat.

dwerten 01-20-2010 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Patti (Post 2964783)
Thanks. Maya's body was pretty much covered too and she itched so bad and panted all the time. It is a bad disease and one a lot of vets miss in diagnosing. That had to be so miserable for your little terrier.
just curious as to how you diagnose it as i know there is an acth test but is there any blood work values you can watch for this as i worry about this since dd is on temarilp :( and it can happen from steroid use i know that

chicos2009 01-20-2010 03:43 PM
hi
 
i hope your dog gets well soon .i take mines to the humane society here in newyork and they are great take care and keep us posted

Patti 01-20-2010 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 2964888)
just curious as to how you diagnose it as i know there is an acth test but is there any blood work values you can watch for this as i worry about this since dd is on temarilp :( and it can happen from steroid use i know that
I first took Maya in with skin sores and hair loss on her tail and sides. They treated her for skin condition after doing skin scrapes,with antibiotics and they kept coming back and then she started to lose weight but was always hungry and thirsty and itchy,so they did thyroid tests. The thyroid profile came back indicating a thyroid condition and they started her on thyroid medicine which didn't improve anything so I took her to a dermatologist who thought it was Cushing's. They did the ACTH stim test and it showed Cushing's then they did an ultrasound to see if her adrenal glands were enlarged and they were normal so they started treatment. So it was over 6 months to get her diagnosed.

ladyjane 01-20-2010 04:04 PM
The only way to diagnose this pup is to go to a vet....and if you have done that then ask him/her for a referral to a dermatologist.
I realize that you said money is an issue, but if you don't do something, this sounds like it is getting worse. I hate to think your pup is suffering. :(
When you go, just let the vet know your financial circumstances so that they hopefully will take it easy on you and order only what is absolutely necessary. A specialist is more likely to come up with a fast diagnosis.

BanditSocks2 01-20-2010 04:40 PM
I dont have any advice but i wanted to wish you good luck with you girl. Hopefully they'll figure out what it is and easily diagnose it.

Patti 01-20-2010 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 2964962)
The only way to diagnose this pup is to go to a vet....and if you have done that then ask him/her for a referral to a dermatologist.
I realize that you said money is an issue, but if you don't do something, this sounds like it is getting worse. I hate to think your pup is suffering. :(
When you go, just let the vet know your financial circumstances so that they hopefully will take it easy on you and order only what is absolutely necessary. A specialist is more likely to come up with a fast diagnosis.
The specialist I went to started consulting with me over the phone for updates since Maya's treatment was so expensive, so they do work with you in most cases.
So I hope the op can get some help soon.

dwerten 01-20-2010 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Patti (Post 2964948)
I first took Maya in with skin sores and hair loss on her tail and sides. They treated her for skin condition after doing skin scrapes,with antibiotics and they kept coming back and then she started to lose weight but was always hungry and thirsty and itchy,so they did thyroid tests. The thyroid profile came back indicating a thyroid condition and they started her on thyroid medicine which didn't improve anything so I took her to a dermatologist who thought it was Cushing's. They did the ACTH stim test and it showed Cushing's then they did an ultrasound to see if her adrenal glands were enlarged and they were normal so they started treatment. So it was over 6 months to get her diagnosed.
wow that is so sad poor baby - so glad they figured it out

junodale 01-21-2010 06:13 AM
I don't know how to find the pictures you mentioned?
Arthur

junodale 01-21-2010 06:18 AM
Yorkie with scabs
 
I'm going to try to find a Dermo vet today.
Thanks
Arthur


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