Holly's sick...white gums.. Help? - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Lillys_Mommy · 11-22-2009, 03:27 PM

My little girl woke up early this morning and threw up her food, and my husband discovered her next to it weak with whitish gums. She's had fleas recently, and had just went to the vet yesterday morning to get her meds for them, and I read online that they can drain the blood fast in a small dog, and cause this. we quickly gave her a bath with flea shampoo. She seemed to come around, and I put the flea meds on her. After her bath, she seemed very energized and wild again. We watched her close for an hour and she was nuts, aka back to normal. Her gums and toung were pink again.

We left to run some errands, and came back about an hour later, and she'd been napping, and was normal, jumping around and happy, even trying to jump on the couch to get our breakfast! Then we sat on the couch to watch a show, and she slept between us for about 20 minutes, and when we went to get up, she was weak again, and her gums gray/white. We held her and lay her down to rest, and after a little while she came around, even ate some food for me. I've been checking her skin, and she feels as hydrated as normal, but we've used a syringe to shoot some water down her throat just to be safe.

She keeps having these spells where she's absolutely fine and normal, and her gums and toung all look healthy, then she gets all weak and her gums are pale. While she's weak, she's very aware, moving her head and ears as we move around, even walking if prompted. Then after a while, she's normal and fine again.

This morning she threw up food, and then a few minutes ago she didn't care to even move to throw up white foam. She's now just cuddled in a blanket on the couch not feeling well

This morning we also gave her water and nutri-cal but she only had it in her for a short minute before she threw it up. She kept the food down she ate for mea earlier though.

Any ideas?

livingdustmops · 11-22-2009, 03:37 PM

You need to get her to a vet and get some blood work done.

Lillys_Mommy · 11-22-2009, 03:39 PM

To update, I just got her to drink a good amount of water, then after she drank, she walked to my husband on the couch and stood on her back legs wanting up.

spiritwings1202 · 11-22-2009, 03:41 PM

They can get tape worm from fleas! So I would bring in a stool sample to the vet as well! Hope she feels better soon!!

Lillys_Mommy · 11-22-2009, 03:44 PM

I can't get her to the vet until tomorrow after 2pm. I sent her doctor an e-mail. (Holly survived Parvo and Hypoglycemia last winter at 5 months old, hasn't had a problem since.)

My vet had trained me to be a vet tec after all her problems last winter, and gave me meds and tools if we needed them, would Baytril help? I have that and IV's. I'm just trying to figure out what to do 'til I can get her to the vet...

Lillys_Mommy · 11-22-2009, 05:27 PM

About 20 minutes ago, she got up and was feeling better again, gums and tongue pink. She just ran by actually! She also just ate for me and tried to nip off our arms trying to get our popcorn! I don't know why she's doing this! It's really frustrating and draining. She'll be sickly, then sleep for an extended time, then she'll be great! Like she's never been down! Then she gums go back from pink to pale, and she's down for the count again.....anyone ever heard of this?? To go from one extreme to the other like that??

Ladymom · 11-22-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by livingdustmops

You need to get her to a vet and get some blood work done.

I agree. She needs a complete blood chemistry and a bile acids test.

Lillys_Mommy · 11-23-2009, 04:08 AM

Just got up a half hour ago, and she's great, very normal again. She ate before bed, hasn't gotten sick since I first posted. Gums are very healthy....we are traviling for the holiday this afternoon, think she'll be ok? we are bringing all her emergency meds just in case, seems every time she sleeps she awakens normal again!

Maybe just a little flu bug? She looks great this morning!

chachi · 11-23-2009, 04:32 AM

Something is very wrong with her and you need to get bloodwork done. White gums are an emergency.

Marley-Moo · 11-23-2009, 04:41 AM

hya,, didnt want to pass through and not write anythink..
my little one was the same in july.. we give him a worming table and he went very dizzy and cuddnt walk. He's back legs kept going and being sick we took him to a emergancy vet whcih cost £180...(bank Hoilday)
He gives us some med for him and sed we had to make sure he kept drinking water..
he was like your little one fine one min,,, ill the next

we took him back to our own vet the day after and he took blood,, give him med ect ect and he was fine in a week

hope everyfink is ok xxx
marley-moo && mummy XX

Lillys_Mommy · 11-23-2009, 04:48 AM

Yeah, I know pale gums are an emergency after all we went thru with her having parvo and hypoglycemia. I had to take her to the vet everyday for a month and a half before they trained me to give her meds and care for her at home.

Thanks for your imput, I have to work this morning, and I'm going to call the vet on my break to see what our doctor has to say.

jeanm1963 · 11-23-2009, 04:54 AM

This happened to Laci once when I used Advantix I was so scared I never used it again!!! I think she is allergic to the pesticide in it... did you use a flea treatment like frontline or advantix

Anyone have a dog got a bad reaction to K9 Advantix? - Yahoo! Answers

bailie · 11-23-2009, 05:39 AM

hi, sorry to hear about ur little one hope everything is ok. but cud i just say that using flea shampoo , u shud wait atleast 4 days before using other flea meds .

RemydeHaviland · 11-23-2009, 06:27 AM

I would agree she probably needs to go to the vet

Also agree with other posters who observe that they can get tapeworms from fleas. This happened to us. Remy did vomit, but he also had symptoms evident in his stool - IE - "white rice kernels" he did not have white gums.

Here is a website that explains the worm situation in very good detail
Tapeworms of Dogs

Further, you can by OTC deworming medicine that addresses this, the active ingredient you are looking for is "praziquantel". It is a single does, Sargents Worm-X has the active ingredient relating to Flea-sourced tape worms and is available OTC for $11.00

Good luck!

chestermama · 11-24-2009, 12:19 AM

I personally would use regular dawn dish washing soap for the fleas rather than the flea shampoo, and wait no less than 2-3 days for fleas meds. I would definately take her to the vet something is not right.

11-22-2009, 03:27 PM	#1
Lillys_Mommy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 32	Holly's sick...white gums.. Help? My little girl woke up early this morning and threw up her food, and my husband discovered her next to it weak with whitish gums. She's had fleas recently, and had just went to the vet yesterday morning to get her meds for them, and I read online that they can drain the blood fast in a small dog, and cause this. we quickly gave her a bath with flea shampoo. She seemed to come around, and I put the flea meds on her. After her bath, she seemed very energized and wild again. We watched her close for an hour and she was nuts, aka back to normal. Her gums and toung were pink again. We left to run some errands, and came back about an hour later, and she'd been napping, and was normal, jumping around and happy, even trying to jump on the couch to get our breakfast! Then we sat on the couch to watch a show, and she slept between us for about 20 minutes, and when we went to get up, she was weak again, and her gums gray/white. We held her and lay her down to rest, and after a little while she came around, even ate some food for me. I've been checking her skin, and she feels as hydrated as normal, but we've used a syringe to shoot some water down her throat just to be safe. She keeps having these spells where she's absolutely fine and normal, and her gums and toung all look healthy, then she gets all weak and her gums are pale. While she's weak, she's very aware, moving her head and ears as we move around, even walking if prompted. Then after a while, she's normal and fine again. This morning she threw up food, and then a few minutes ago she didn't care to even move to throw up white foam. She's now just cuddled in a blanket on the couch not feeling well This morning we also gave her water and nutri-cal but she only had it in her for a short minute before she threw it up. She kept the food down she ate for mea earlier though. Any ideas?

11-22-2009, 03:37 PM	#2
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	You need to get her to a vet and get some blood work done. __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!

11-22-2009, 03:41 PM	#4
spiritwings1202 Pixie and Daisy Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CT USA Posts: 2,680	They can get tape worm from fleas! So I would bring in a stool sample to the vet as well! Hope she feels better soon!! __________________ Proud Mom of Daisy and Pixie

11-23-2009, 04:32 AM	#9
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	Something is very wrong with her and you need to get bloodwork done. White gums are an emergency. __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

11-23-2009, 04:54 AM	#12
jeanm1963 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Weymouth, Ma Posts: 2,584	This happened to Laci once when I used Advantix I was so scared I never used it again!!! I think she is allergic to the pesticide in it... did you use a flea treatment like frontline or advantix Anyone have a dog got a bad reaction to K9 Advantix? - Yahoo! Answers __________________ I Support http://www.yorkiesinc.com/

11-22-2009, 03:39 PM	#3
Lillys_Mommy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 32	To update, I just got her to drink a good amount of water, then after she drank, she walked to my husband on the couch and stood on her back legs wanting up.

11-22-2009, 03:44 PM	#5
Lillys_Mommy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 32	I can't get her to the vet until tomorrow after 2pm. I sent her doctor an e-mail. (Holly survived Parvo and Hypoglycemia last winter at 5 months old, hasn't had a problem since.) My vet had trained me to be a vet tec after all her problems last winter, and gave me meds and tools if we needed them, would Baytril help? I have that and IV's. I'm just trying to figure out what to do 'til I can get her to the vet...

11-22-2009, 05:27 PM	#6
Lillys_Mommy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 32	About 20 minutes ago, she got up and was feeling better again, gums and tongue pink. She just ran by actually! She also just ate for me and tried to nip off our arms trying to get our popcorn! I don't know why she's doing this! It's really frustrating and draining. She'll be sickly, then sleep for an extended time, then she'll be great! Like she's never been down! Then she gums go back from pink to pale, and she's down for the count again.....anyone ever heard of this?? To go from one extreme to the other like that??

11-23-2009, 04:08 AM	#8
Lillys_Mommy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 32	Just got up a half hour ago, and she's great, very normal again. She ate before bed, hasn't gotten sick since I first posted. Gums are very healthy....we are traviling for the holiday this afternoon, think she'll be ok? we are bringing all her emergency meds just in case, seems every time she sleeps she awakens normal again! Maybe just a little flu bug? She looks great this morning!

11-23-2009, 04:41 AM	#10
Marley-Moo Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: england Posts: 11	hya,, didnt want to pass through and not write anythink.. my little one was the same in july.. we give him a worming table and he went very dizzy and cuddnt walk. He's back legs kept going and being sick we took him to a emergancy vet whcih cost £180...(bank Hoilday) He gives us some med for him and sed we had to make sure he kept drinking water.. he was like your little one fine one min,,, ill the next we took him back to our own vet the day after and he took blood,, give him med ect ect and he was fine in a week hope everyfink is ok xxx marley-moo && mummy XX

11-23-2009, 04:48 AM	#11
Lillys_Mommy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 32	Yeah, I know pale gums are an emergency after all we went thru with her having parvo and hypoglycemia. I had to take her to the vet everyday for a month and a half before they trained me to give her meds and care for her at home. Thanks for your imput, I have to work this morning, and I'm going to call the vet on my break to see what our doctor has to say.

11-23-2009, 05:39 AM	#13
bailie YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: northern ireland Posts: 947	hi, sorry to hear about ur little one hope everything is ok. but cud i just say that using flea shampoo , u shud wait atleast 4 days before using other flea meds . __________________ my beautiful sole mates,, beau,sonny,gino,frazer R.I.P my fallen angel bailie 97-2012

11-23-2009, 06:27 AM	#14
RemydeHaviland Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lake Winnipesaukee, New Hampshire Posts: 641	I would agree she probably needs to go to the vet Also agree with other posters who observe that they can get tapeworms from fleas. This happened to us. Remy did vomit, but he also had symptoms evident in his stool - IE - "white rice kernels" he did not have white gums. Here is a website that explains the worm situation in very good detail Tapeworms of Dogs Further, you can by OTC deworming medicine that addresses this, the active ingredient you are looking for is "praziquantel". It is a single does, Sargents Worm-X has the active ingredient relating to Flea-sourced tape worms and is available OTC for $11.00 Good luck! __________________ Susanne and Remy

11-24-2009, 12:19 AM	#15
chestermama YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: washington Posts: 3,383 Blog Entries: 1	I personally would use regular dawn dish washing soap for the fleas rather than the flea shampoo, and wait no less than 2-3 days for fleas meds. I would definately take her to the vet something is not right.