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crystalsmom 09-28-2009 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 2818323)
Huh? I don't see how another thread has anything to do with my response to that person.

I do:thumbdown

RoscoesMommy42 09-28-2009 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ARCHIE (Post 2818291)
Once again a thread has gone astray. This thread was started because
someone was loosing innocent puppies and was in a panic.
It was about saving puppies not about weather or not she should have
bred her female. Live's were at stake and this woman needed help
from people who know how to help her. What is wrong with all of you?
This thread was about saving puppies from dying! I don't blame her
for not coming back. Who are all of you to beat someone up like this.
Times are hard all over the country but you continue to breed your
females knowing homes have to be found. There are so many pups
in rescues why not stop breeding for a year and allow those pups to get
into a loving home? This subject can go round and round forever because
everyone has their own points of view. It's not my business what you
do or how you do it so stop beating up on those who do something
you wouldn't. Next time help save innocent lives then go for the
jugular! I don't agree with what she did with her female but that does
not mean those puppies did not have the right to live!

:thumbup::thumbup:

manolos mom 09-28-2009 06:27 AM

I have always repected your opionions and still do. Please take a look at how people helped this lady. She has not been back on and people want answers. Show me the results. How are the puppies and the mom doing? Did you take them to the vet? We- have- no -answers -so sure its frustrating because so many are being pts everyday. I have been a member since 2007. I was very irresponsible but guess what? I learned from this site. We all make mistakes not one of us are perfect but the key is to learn from your mistake and move on. Those who keep on doing the same mistake over and over are just down right Greedy and Money hungry. JMO

crystalsmom 09-28-2009 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SassyZena (Post 2818325)
I wish I never posted! Sorry for bothering everyone and starting an angry debate.
But thanks to the ones that really cared.

Try to realize that most people in this world try to help in need and we are sorry if you lost your pups. You are in my prayers.

ARCHIE 09-28-2009 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by manolos mom (Post 2818343)
I have always repected your opionions and still do. Please take a look at how people helped this lady. She has not been back on and people want answers. Show me the results. How are the puppies and the mom doing? Did you take them to the vet? We- have- no -answers -so sure its frustrating because so many are being pts everyday. I have been a member since 2007. I was very irresponsible but guess what? I learned from this site. We all make mistakes not one of us are perfect but the key is to learn from your mistake and move on. Those who keep on doing the same mistake over and over are just down right Greedy and Money hungry. JMO



Once again, this thread was about helping puppies not about breeding!:(
If I were her I would never come back either!
Let it go already!

mommy9 09-28-2009 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 2818312)
Don't put words in my mouth, please. Read below and see if you can grasp what I was saying! I DID quote the person I was responding to!



And I personally like breeders who truly love and protect the breed they are working with. So.....they are the ones I would flock with. She will flock with those who don't have that protection for the animals.


Sometimes, tact is exactly what is needed. Seeing as you took "part" of my response and decided to "view it" incorrectly, let me simplify it for you? "I" do not any longer show, nor breed..but I did for over 15 yrs, and had some dogs in the top ten. I only bred when "I" wanted a puppy for myself. I had many calls for puppies when I did not have any litters. What I DID do, was talk with the callers..some had big dreams about breeding. With those people, MAYBE one or two actually wanted to learn and do it the right way..the others had NO clue of the "what ifs" and decided that they didn't want to take the risks. They were SO thankful that they could tell me their plans without being jumped on! These people turned out to be very, very reputable breeders that also did well in the showring. So.."birds of a feather"?? You bet! I "flock" with honest, ethical, caring people that are willing to do what is right for ALL dogs, cats, and animals in general. I will not engage in any more arguments there is no sense in that..you obviously have good intentions gone astray.

manolos mom 09-28-2009 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by manolos mom (Post 2818343)
I have always repected your opionions and still do. Please take a look at how people helped this lady. She has not been back on and people want answers. Show me the results. How are the puppies and the mom doing? Did you take them to the vet? We- have- no -answers -so sure its frustrating because so many are being pts everyday. I have been a member since 2007. I was very irresponsible but guess what? I learned from this site. We all make mistakes not one of us are perfect but the key is to learn from your mistake and move on. Those who keep on doing the same mistake over and over are just down right Greedy and Money hungry. JMO

Exactly! Everyone just wants an answer and is concerned. I will let it go Archie.

ladyjane 09-28-2009 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mommy9 (Post 2818359)
Sometimes, tact is exactly what is needed. Seeing as you took "part" of my response and decided to "view it" incorrectly, let me simplify it for you? "I" do not any longer show, nor breed..but I did for over 15 yrs, and had some dogs in the top ten. I only bred when "I" wanted a puppy for myself. I had many calls for puppies when I did not have any litters. What I DID do, was talk with the callers..some had big dreams about breeding. With those people, MAYBE one or two actually wanted to learn and do it the right way..the others had NO clue of the "what ifs" and decided that they didn't want to take the risks. They were SO thankful that they could tell me their plans without being jumped on! These people turned out to be very, very reputable breeders that also did well in the showring. So.."birds of a feather"?? You bet! I "flock" with honest, ethical, caring people that are willing to do what is right for ALL dogs, cats, and animals in general. I will not engage in any more arguments there is no sense in that..you obviously have good intentions gone astray.


How wonderful! Care to share your breeding history with us? Do you have a website? Names of your champions? I would love to see them!

BaxtersMommy 09-28-2009 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SassyZena (Post 2818325)
I wish I never posted! Sorry for bothering everyone and starting an angry debate.
But thanks to the ones that really cared.


Can you please give an update? There are many (probably most) who really are concerned and want to know. I hope you found the help you needed and the pups got to a vet. I really dont think anyone meant to start an argument. People here are passionate and concerned. Dont take that as anything, except they have learned from their mistakes, or they are helping sick babies everyday and just want to see people do the right thing. They are trying to help you. It is hard to interpret a post/thread, but everyone here LOVES YORKIES! We all want the best for your babies & Mommy. I pray they were seen by the Vet that day. I hope you let us know how they all are. You said you were getting her spayed so that tells me you have already learned something. Good for you.

crystalsmom 09-28-2009 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BaxtersMommy (Post 2818373)
Can you please give an update? There are many (probably most) who really are concerned and want to know. I hope you found the help you needed and the pups got to a vet. I really dont think anyone meant to start an argument. People here are passionate and concerned. Dont take that as anything, except they have learned from their mistakes, or they are helping sick babies everyday and just want to see people do the right thing. They are trying to help you. It is hard to interpret a post/thread, but everyone here LOVES YORKIES! We all want the best for your babies & Mommy. I pray they were seen by the Vet that day. I hope you let us know how they all are. You said you were getting her spayed so that tells me you have already learned something. Good for you.

I think it would be better to pm her if you want answers and she may not answer that knowing it will be quoted on here.

manolos mom 09-28-2009 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mommy9 (Post 2818359)
Sometimes, tact is exactly what is needed. Seeing as you took "part" of my response and decided to "view it" incorrectly, let me simplify it for you? "I" do not any longer show, nor breed..but I did for over 15 yrs, and had some dogs in the top ten. I only bred when "I" wanted a puppy for myself. I had many calls for puppies when I did not have any litters. What I DID do, was talk with the callers..some had big dreams about breeding. With those people, MAYBE one or two actually wanted to learn and do it the right way..the others had NO clue of the "what ifs" and decided that they didn't want to take the risks. They were SO thankful that they could tell me their plans without being jumped on! These people turned out to be very, very reputable breeders that also did well in the showring. So.."birds of a feather"?? You bet! I "flock" with honest, ethical, caring people that are willing to do what is right for ALL dogs, cats, and animals in general. I will not engage in any more arguments there is no sense in that..you obviously have good intentions gone astray.

Terri, Its very nice to meet you. You sound like a very responsible person. The person you are referring to takes the dogs no one wants."The Ugly Yorkies" Quote from another thread. The sick with shunts, trachea,mange and on and on. The ones that cost a fortune. Loves them gives proper vetting and finds adoptable parents. Everyone handles stress in their own way, some get mad some cry some feel bad. So please dont take this personal Please. When someone comes on a cries for help but does not come back on, the Light bulb goes off and makes one believe this is a troll. Trust me.

crystalsmom 09-28-2009 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by manolos mom (Post 2818386)
Terri, Its very nice to meet you. You sound like a very responsible person. The person you are referring to takes the dogs no one wants."The Ugly Yorkies" Quote from another thread. The sick with shunts, trachea,mange and on and on. The ones that cost a fortune. Loves them gives proper vetting and finds adoptable parents. Everyone handles stress in their own way, some get mad some cry some feel bad. So please dont take this personal Please. When someone comes on a cries for help but does not come back on, the Light bulb goes off and makes one believe this is a troll. Trust me.

When someone does not come back on it makes the thread END pure and simple. When all else fails call her a troll:eek: I can't believe you people. Nothing in ladyjanes's other thread said anything about a troll that I read.

manolos mom 09-28-2009 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by crystalsmom (Post 2818413)
When someone does not come back on it makes the thread END pure and simple. When all else fails call her a troll:eek: I can't believe you people. Nothing in ladyjanes's other thread said anything about a troll that I read.

Thats not very nice of you. I dont believe I have been mean to anyone and to be called YOU PEOPLE. I'm sorry you feel that way.

crystalsmom 09-28-2009 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by manolos mom (Post 2818427)
Thats not very nice of you. I dont believe I have been mean to anyone and to be called YOU PEOPLE. I'm sorry you feel that way.

I'm sorry, I know you are only defending a friend.

megansmomma 09-28-2009 07:47 AM

I was one of the very first people to post to the OPer days ago. Seeing the title of her thread made me jump into action and I PMed several breeders looking for help for these puppies, told the OPer to seek medical assistance immediately and then sat back and watched this thread so on and on.

It made me SICK that puppies had and were dying but also what was upsetting was the amount of people who were coming back looking at this for an answer. I then waited SEVERAL days to see if there would be an update and THAT IS WHEN I started to dig around. It was not until there were so many people looking for an update that I realized that something was terribly wrong with this entire thing. I looked at the post count and BINGO there is all was and I SAW THE LIGHT and my answer. Bashing NO speaking the truth SURE AM! It's all right there in black and white...........irresponsible, uninformed, pet ownership and breeding for greed :thumbdown

So instead of the light bulb going on with the truth some of you have gone into attack mode because of the what the messenger brought to the thread. You should be OUTRAGED not at LJ, Armywife, MM and myself but at the root of the problem.

Isn't it also interesting how the OPer didn't show back up until THIS morning but no update :confused: Tell us you have sick and dead puppies, make everyone concerned and get people praying and hugging you~now STAND UP AND TELL US THE OUTCOME! I believe in taking responsibility and OWNING IT but sadly that is not the same motto that everyone carries!

I have seen great breeders come on and have sick puppies and even a mom that has died after years of responsible breeding. Yeap~sure as hell they get my sympathy and RESPECT you know why because they have EARNED IT!

If the OPer was breeding properly, none of this mess would have happened. In the VERY LEAST she would have had a few phone numbers of EXPERIENCED YT BREEDERS to call in an emergency. That is how mentoring works, you form a network of support just like in rescue. there is have a network of support that we can turn to when there are issues, questions, you are stressed out~whatever. If I have questions I know exactly who I am going to speak to about them.

Finally, I have made friendships on this board from my REPUTATION and I surround myself with people that are of like mind.


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