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I don't think I ever implied that our thoughts and feelings are meaningless, far from it. I was saying a thought is meaningless unless you believe it to be true. Negative thoughts have real power only when people believe them to be true. I don't think we should live our lives worried about those who are jealous or want power over us. I think when we start to believe they have the power to do this then we have given them the power to do this. |
I disagree with this perspective, and think that as much as we protect ourselves w/ sunblock because sun can be as dangerous as it is beautiful, we can protect ourselves from people who wish us ill. And it doesn't mean that we need to live our life in fear, either. We don't see the harmful rays of the sun, but we know them to be harmful because we can experience the results. In my opinion, if we close our eyes to something and pretend it's not there, it would not make it disappear.
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People have been going to see spiritualist for years to get curses lifted, I don't think a spiritualist has any more power than anyone else. |
All people have different gifts, talents, and abilities. If one can be a great mathematician, and utilize their gifted brain in such way, why couldn't someone else be gifted at healing for instance? I know many individuals that can work their mojo better than others.
I agree, we all have the power to pray. But some of us are more gifted than others, or have more knowledge than others when it comes to spiritual matters. Some of us can see and divine, others can heal through touch, and others have gifts of bringing prosperity, while yet others are talented at cursing. Yeah, there are those too. It might be hard to understand, especially when judging from a logical or psychological point of view.
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Ordinary people can lift the "curse" when they start counting their blessings. Psychologists call it the power of positive thinking. The mind is a very powerful thing, and as we all know, it's very open to suggestion. In a way, what we believe to be true is true, so we all should be very careful in what we believe to be true. |
I agree with your point of view to some extent. I often see it with my clients, sometimes they need help in believing that they deserve a better future, and when they start opening up to this idea things work better for them. Though the fact that we believe that evil people can't harm us, spiritually or otherwise, isn't going to change the fact that they can...
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I'm confused on why you think my statement about Voodoo was derogatory. I only have studied it from a psychological perspective; I was not making a values statement, but I am sorry if I offended you. |
Thank you, Nancy. I appreciate the apology.
What offended me is the assumption that Voodoo is some sort of, what do they call it, "mumbo jumbo." You said: "These thoughts are meaningless, unless you start to believe you are jinxed. (
That's how voodoo works.)" It's like saying that Voodoo practitioners are some sort of charlatans that make you think all kinds of BS to get your money at a carnival. (If I understand you correctly) So, yeah, I didn't appreciate the context, as much as I would not appreciate hearing that all loan sharks are Jews, or that all terrorist are Muslim.
And BTW, I am one of those "voodoo people" that help others to remove jinxes. LOL I regularly see lives shattered due to jinxing and crossing, and also restored with a help of an honest and gifted spiritista, rootworker, healer, guru, shaman, and so on. There are some of us who are truly gifted and are sincerely interested in helping others. I devote my life to the study of different traditions and modalities. And I believe my opinion deserves the same respect as another's.
When I suggested that a dog can be cursed, I spoke from experience. Anyone can think whatever they want of it. One can understand what I mean, another might find it interesting, someone else might think it's BS. But hey, this is my opinion, and I thought that it can be of use, as much as other suggestions in this thread. One of us could be an expert on anal glands, and another on spirituality. I think all is valid.
As humans, we all have different relationships with God/ Allah / Jehovah / Bon Diye / Oldumare/ Jesus/ Kali, Buddha, etc. Some of us call the All Mighty logic, others are worshipers of modern psychology, and yet others are atheists that believe in not believing. And for that we really should count our blessings because we can learn something valuable from each point of view and enrich our lives in unimaginable ways.
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This thread is about Brooke, and her little girl, and she's under lots of pressure right now, I hope this thread does not become a place for "bad vibes", as we use to say in the 70's. |
I totally agree, Nancy!!!! Lets not make it "a place for 'bad vibes,'" LOL Sorry for the long reply. I just had several points I wanted to address. I hope I haven't offended you, or Brooke, in any way; and I also hope that both of us came out wiser from this conversation.
I hold Brooke and her baby in my heart and prayers!!! May they both be blessed with health, peace, and positive resolution!!!
Nadezda