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ohh wow what an intense read .. that first video was just hear breaking .. but the last video was so heart warming hope your little guy continues to get better |
If you can't get anything resolved on the track you're presently on, I would for sure contact University of Tennessee. They are experts with these tiny dogs, have all of the special equipment to test and take care of them and have special grants to help minimize the cost. I would only think if they had not seen a case such as this, it would present a challenge to them, a teaching hospital, and one that they would want to treat. The people there are wonderful and caring...I cannot say enough good things about them. It would definitely be worth sending your video and a brief history to get their opinion. Good luck to you - I know how heart wrenching it can be to take care of these sick babies. Thor is lucky to have you! |
Thor is still having issues. I am sorry I have not updated here but with school and family, its hard to find time. Thor had another set of x-rays looking for stenosis and fissures, they found nothing. He has since had and endoscopic colon biopsy to check for other issues. We will know those results within a week and will let you all know. Our vet is in contact with a vet at the university of Missouri and a few other vets around the country...if there is a problem we will find it. If it is within our monetary means, we will do it. He is still a happy healthy puppy in every other way. He has been on 10 different dog foods, none of which helped so his food isn't the issue. He has been on natural, homecooked, cheap (trying to get his poo loose) and all different brands. Right now he is on IAMS puppy can food, and Wellness Kibble. He is now 2.8 pounds so he is growing normally now. (he wasn't before) I will keep you all posted as much as possible. |
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I know you are doing all that you can. Know that you are doing more than most people would have done at this point...what a lucky little boy he is to have you! How they capture our hearts, don't they. Like I said above, University of TN was wonderful with my Lola...I flew from Houston, TX to have her seen and even with the air and hotel, etc., it was less that having her procedure done at home. They were so wonderful and caring there. She went for a liver shunt, but there were babies there with all kinds of problems and the grants make it a lot cheaper. They saved Lola's life. I am sending you prayers and hope all works out well for you and Thor. |
Thor, we're still rooting for you little guy...hope you're feeling 100% better real soon. |
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we use cold pressed virgin olive oil about a half teaspoon a day in the food and no runs from it :animal-pa |
This little guy is such a cutie! I love his coloring. I'll continue to pray for the doctors to find a solution and treatment for him. |
Best Wishes to Thor and Family ... Lactulose, as suggested in a previous post, is really great stuff. It is a man-made sugar solution and is used to treat or prevent complications of liver disease, or may be taken to treat constipation. The dose can be adjusted to produce the type and frequency of BM desired, regardless of the brand of food that is being fed. So you can feed him something he likes that is nutritious instead of changing his diet so much. Much harder to regulate with oils and such. Oils can coat the intestinal tract and interfere with absorption of nutrients from the food if used on a regular basis. Another previous post suggested Preparation H. I think they make a PH Plus with pain reliever too. I would try this on his anus after each cleansing. If this helps him to have painless poos, then that tells you the problem is there and not further up inside. One other concern I have is anal glands. Many dogs will hide when bothered by anal glands. Some dogs have a problem with their glands but it doesn't seem to bother them at all. Others will tremble and shake when their glands are barely full. Some dogs scoot their butts across the floor or ground in an attempt to find relief. Anal glands contain extremely stinky liquid (skunk stinky, can gag you stinky). If you raise your dog's tail and pretend you are looking at a clock with the tail being the 12, the glands would be located at the 4 and the 8., the anus being the center of the clock. Any swelling in this area is not normal. The glands may fill but when BM's occur they should empty out. I have seen this problem overlooked and /or dismissed many, many times. I have seen anal gland function improve with consistant diet management. Never give any kind of rawhide treats or bones. I am just making these suggestions as these are things you can do between vet visits and they don't cost alot of money. The Lactulose is by prescription and may not be necessary if stools are of an acceptable consistancy and frequency. |
Aww your Thor is precious!! Not sure what happened... but I'm glad he's doing better!! Thanx for sharing the video and pics!!! ;) |
:hands: Poor Thor. Still praying for you little guy. |
OK, we have the results of Thor's testing. He has Colitis. They are recommending cortisone enemas, which we can't get in America. They are only available in Canada he said so he has to get with a "compound pharmacy" in order to get the meds for Thor. SO....that is where are now :) Thor is still acting just fine, spoiled rotten and only having the occasional potty accidents. |
I live in Calgary AB Canada, can anyone of us get the cortisone enemas for you and send down. Let me know I can do this for you, one thing our dollars is low which means you get more for your money in here. My new email is cheldaisi@shaw.ca, I check my email all day. My sister-in-law will be return to Phoenix this Saturday May 9/09, I suppose it's too soon to the get med by this Friday, she would be able to get it into the US then courier it to you. If interested let me know. |
high - fiber diet can help too. Ask your vet about that. |
Awww Thank you for offering :) I am not really sure that it would work though because it is a prescription only thing. I will talk to the vet though and see if there is anything that he can do, like call the pharmacy or whatever, and if he can, I will email you.... Thank you sooo much for offering though!!! |
The meds may not work unless you have found the underlying condition. All colitis is an inflammation of the colon. You have to find out why the colon is inflammated. I have a vet book and it say to use a high fiber diet, this book is wrote by vets. And it says that most colitis is a inflammatory bowel diseases that whipworms are frequent cause of. And then there is Fungal Colitis but is uncommon. Dogs with immune deficiency and lowered resistance may get it. And then you have Prototheca colitis again is rare caused by an algae. So Colitis is just part of what your dogs has you need to have a colon biopsy, & the stool need to be check for parasites and fungi. To find the underlying condition. I am sure you can search and get even more info of it, but this book is vert good and it does not say any kind of med that will help with out knowing the uderlying cause, but does say high fiber diet helps. I think I would try it, and ask you vet alot of question to find what is causeing it. Good luck I hope this helps. (all ways do your homework when you have a vet tell you what is wrong, they are people just like you and me. Read up on it and then is when you will know the questions you need to ask. Have a great day, and good luck. If you find out more let us know. |
The form that he has, has no known cause. We have done MULTIPLE tests on parasites, he is completely clean. The GI/GU intern at the University of Missouri said it may have been caused from trauma to his colon when he was impacted at 6 weeks old. Here is the form of colitis he has. Lymphocytic-plasmacytic Inflammatory Bowel Disease Canine lymphocytic-plasmacytic gastroenteritis(LP) is one disease in a group of idiopathic, chronic intestinal diseases collectively termed inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), and is considered to be the most common cause of chronic vomiting and diarrhea in dogs. LP gastroenteritis is characterized by a diffuse infiltration of lymnphocytes and plasma cells into the lamina propria of the stomach and/or the small intestine resulting in diffuse mucosal inflammation. Lymphocytic-plasmacytic is the most prevalent form of IBD. Other forms of IBD may be due to other cellular infiltrates (i.e. eosinophilic gastroenteritis, granulomatous enteritis, chronic histiocytic ulcerative colitis in Boxers). The definitive cause and pathogenesis of this disease remains unknown. It is thought that an abnormal mucosal immune response to various environmental antigens, potentially dietary or parasitic in origin, results in a host hypersensitivity reaction that is responsible for the recruitment of inflammatory cells. Continued exposure to the antigen perpetuates the gastrointestinal inflammation. Subsequent damage results from the elaboration of cytokines, release of proteolytic and lysosomal enzymes, complement activation secondary to immune complex deposition, and the generation of oxygen free radicals. Delayed gastric emptying can then occur secondary to the inflammation. Hereditary factors may also influence the development of IBD. |
Poor little baby with pooping problem Poor thing! Not sure if you have heard this already have you tried pooping him? Thats what I did with my boys when they were babies they will probably poop in your hand which sounds like you will be fine with.. just hold the babies butt under warm water and rub its tummy and butt with a wet paper towl. hope this is helpful we have done this with all the small dogs we have ever owned. |
You finally found the answer. Are you satisfied with the findings? Meaning do you accept what little Thors has? This isn't coming out right, lol. You know Thor better than anyone and you have done so much of your own research. I'm asking if this seems accurate of a diagnoisis to what Thor has been having? Does it fit? Didn't one of the vets previously consider IBS or colitis? I have colitis and it isn't nice. That's why I thought it might be that aways back. Hard little stool with liquid bypassing. It is painful...sometimes I use to say it was more painful then labor, the gas build up you get before you go. grrrrrrrr So many threads I dare not go back to the beginning and read them all again. This has been a real medical education for us all though. If someone ever comes to the board and states their pup has what Thors does, we'll immediately send them to you, hahahaha Carol AND Jemma |
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I am also a butt bather. Like twice to three or four times a day. constantly cleaning her kennel out, and her blankets. My own clothes. She strains so hard she pees. I really need help. I am reaching out to you. I am the other case if you have not found more. Here is a link to one of Basils episodes. Not the worse one I have witness but the only one I could get at the time to bring right to the vet. It is sad to watch. |
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:( OH NO!! How horrible. I don't have any experience, I wish you luck at the vets and hope your little one gets the help it needs. I hope the OP will see this in time |
OMG I feel so bad I so hope you are able to find help. I will keep my fingers crossed for you and your beautiful pup. |
Poor baby. I hope you can figure out what is wrong and help her out. I am so sorry she has to go through this. |
My sasha suffered from colitis and when she was having a flare up i would feed her just boiled chicken and rice until it got better, worked a treat :) |
I had a puppy that did that, Her rectum was red and raw, so everytime she strained it just pushed it out further. Took her to my vet and he prescribed Derma-vet ointment for her rectum and SD prescription food to soften her stool until she healed. It took about a week or week and half and she has been fine ever since. |
Sherri, it has been a long time since I have come here. Our Little Thor did finally get better. He was out doing one of his most favorite things in the world one day, playing hide and seek with Rob, Yes, he knew how to play this game. Well, he got spooked by something and ran under Rob's foot and Rob was unable to alter his footing and Thor was killed. We didn't sleep for 2 days. Thor is now buried under the tree he would hide behind. We spent almost a year making him healthy, he had 8 months of a happy, pain free life and then he was gone. We got a new dog the following weekend because the house was not the same without him. We opted for a large dog and now we have a one year old lab mix who was a rescue. She now plays hide and seek just like little Thor did and there are less dangers but Thor is still with us in spirit and we miss him so much all of the time.... Now, on to what finally made the difference. Our vet found someone to mix up cortisone enemas. We gave little Thor 2 enemas a day for 10 days. Once this was finished...he never had another problem. I am unsure of the name of the medication. THe vet who finally helped us cure him was Dr. Mobley of Kennett Missouri. I haven't had the heart yet to tell this vet that Thor lost his life so tragically....but he is the reason Thor's last 8 months wwere so happy. Good luck and best wishes. |
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RIP little Thor:rbyorkie: |
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