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11-30-2008, 07:34 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Marshfield, WI, USA
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| Abnormal Bile Acid Panel I was wondering if anyone had some ideas or information to share with me. My little Lilly is 7 months old. I opted to have the pre labs drawn prior to her being spayed and she was found to have an elevated liver count. The vet recommended a bile Acid Panel which I just got the results on and is abnormal. Lilly has no clinical symptoms besides being a little smaller than thought- at about 4 pounds. Her fasting level was 33.7 and post meal was 68.4. The vet says this could be suggestive of a shunt. He said there are two options- Medically manage with drugs and diet which could eventually catch up with her or referral to another vet hospital to further go extensive testing. I feel just lost, Lilly is my cuddle bug! Any suggestions or share of simular experiences would help! |
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11-30-2008, 08:17 AM | #2 | |
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11-30-2008, 12:20 PM | #3 |
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| don't panic Those numbers are only slightly elevated and could even be a temporary condition. Treat her medically for now and retest in a couple of months, unless she starts having symptoms of course. Be careful who you deal with and do some reading before you subject this little dog to invasive tests and surgery. |
11-30-2008, 12:28 PM | #4 |
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| I just posted a bunch of links to information here. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sic...ml#post2354414 |
11-30-2008, 12:29 PM | #5 |
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| What kinds of symptoms is your baby exhibiting? Picky eating? history of UTI or dark urine? vomiting? occassional lethargy? feeling sick a few hours after eating? etc? If your baby does not have any symptoms at all, I would retest in 30 days. You may consider putting her on a vegetarian diet for 30 days until you have the BAT redone.
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11-30-2008, 12:39 PM | #6 |
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| I think the post is concerning. You can retest in 30 days but I would be prepared to do further testing after that because the enzymes were high.
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11-30-2008, 12:43 PM | #7 | |
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For starters, you should read these two threads and see all the advice another member and I have been getting in dealing with the same problem: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...r-disease.html http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ork-again.html There is much more info on here, but that is a good start. I'm sure the liver experts, absolute angels will be posting back at you soon. I don't know how they do it, tirelessly sharing info, it is amazing. We hear so much about liver disease here, there should be a sticky as a starting place for people. Good luck, and hugs to you and your cuddlebug Lilly!
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11-30-2008, 01:44 PM | #8 |
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| I can understand your concern but as MauiGirl said "Don't Panic". We had DJ for only a couple of months, he was an adoption at 6 years old, before we found out that he had a liver shunt. It was taken care while he was having other tests/biopsies done, but it was his kidneys that were his downfall with the gloumerii (sp)/filters in his kidneys/allowing protein to go through. Basically he was on a slow kidney failure and died late 1/08 at around 7 1/2. You are Not alone and there are many VT members that will help you through these tough times. Here is a Yahoo group that is all about liver shunts. Liver_Shunt_And_MVD_Support : Liver Shunt & MVD/HMD Support Dr. Karen M. Tobias, DVM, University of Tennessee College of Veterinary Medicine, is doing a lot of research on liver shunts. The group is free. I have many other links from my web searching for DJ. If you would like some please PM me and I will send them to you. |
11-30-2008, 02:36 PM | #9 | |
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11-30-2008, 02:53 PM | #10 |
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| I am so sorry to hear of your loss. Thank you so much for the kind words. The replys that I have received since joining have been reassurance and support that I have needed so much. |
12-03-2008, 04:45 PM | #11 | |
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Have you requested a Protein C test? Are you following the other threads here dealing with liver disease, to get an understanding that with liver issues in a puppy it is more important to select the proper sources of protein than just to restrict the amount of protein. Yorkieluv has posted great info about this. I'm getting the feeling that many Vets aren't up to date on the latest and best diagnosis & treatment for liver disease in dogs. With the valuable information we are getting here, we can help provide new information to our vets and get a better outcome for our pets.
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12-03-2008, 05:24 PM | #12 | |
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12-04-2008, 06:59 AM | #13 | |
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My Roxy's first BAT was 43 (pre) and 100.9 (post) and she and I are both surviving.... | |
12-04-2008, 07:03 PM | #14 | |
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12-04-2008, 07:18 PM | #15 | |
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If you are going to feed hills it should be the wet l/d or royal cane makes a dry kibble for liver issues. Vit E is good, Fish Oil is good, Vetri DMG and Hepato Support are both recommended, you can get those from (HomeVet© Natural Pet Care) For the last year I retested Roxy's BAT every 3 to 4 months. Now, we do it every 8 to 12 months. She most likely has MVD, so her BAT will not return to normal numbers. Last edited by TLC; 12-04-2008 at 07:19 PM. | |
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