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Yorkiedaze 10-15-2008 10:24 AM

You have some good information to work on right now. I wouldn't want to overload you at this point. I still feel her level will bottom out with a non fat diet. I think it was all the salmon she was eating, but I'm no Dr. I'll talk to one for you though. Chin up, I know it's difficult but your a great mom and stronger than you realize. Warm hugs to you and Layla.

MyPeanutAbbyGra 10-15-2008 10:42 AM

Marci,
I'm so sorry to hear this about sweet Layla. You have such a great support system here though and that is wonderful!! Hopefully everyone's gut feeling is right and it's not pancreatitis.
You and Layla are in my prayers.
:hug:
Tammy

Suzy 10-15-2008 11:30 AM

Awww Marci, I know you are so scared and freaking out right now. I am upset for you too-but keep in mind all of this great advice you've gotten here, and the fact that the vet said that it's manageable with diet. You tested Layla early, before she had any kind of attack/serious symptoms-what a great mommy you are! :)

It sounds like talking to a nutritionist would be a great place to start. I agree too that her levels might come down on something other than beef/salmon right before her tests. But, talk to your nutritionist and see what she recommends. I don't know a lot about this, but you know I'm here for you anytime.

Sending you both huge hugs!

diggy4 10-15-2008 11:36 AM

Oh Marci....Im so sorry Im here for ya....if you need ANYTHING you know where to find me.

marcerella02 10-15-2008 12:10 PM

Thank you all so much for your posts and support. I was a mess this morning... so upset... so confused.. but i've gotten some wonderful advice on here and i'm looking forward to talking with the nutrionist and showing my vet that it CAN be done on a home diet. I sure hope that once she sees I can do it, she won't deter any other home cookers in the same position. I know she just wants what's best and she is so great... we talked for almost 45 min today.. she answered all my questions... but i look forward to showing her that i am right on this one :D

PANAMA69 10-15-2008 01:04 PM

:(Oh Marci so sorry, but a lest you know what she has and how to treat it, I know Layla is going to be fine, with a mommy like you. I don't see either why stop home cooking, because I do, but just like I told you in my pm a lot had to do with portion control, because most of the yorkies I have seen they are overweight and some have health issues, actually not only yorkies, my vet said is a toy breed problem. I know you are confuse and you have ask for prayers, I think if you pray to God to give you wisdom and to put the right people on your way regarding this issue with Layla He will;)

PANAMA69 10-15-2008 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2283304)
I don't have any experience with pancreatitis, but I would imagine the problem with homecooked foods is regulating the amount of fat each and every time.

I hope someone has some great advice for you.

If nothing else now you have a diagnosis and can work toward correcting Layla's problem.

I agree with you:D and I'm not a expert either;)

marcerella02 10-15-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PANAMA69 (Post 2283797)
:(Oh Marci so sorry, but a lest you know what she has and how to treat it, I know Layla is going to be fine, with a mommy like you. I don't see either why stop home cooking, because I do, but just like I told you in my pm a lot had to do with portion control, because most of the yorkies I have seen they are overweight and some have health issues, actually not only yorkies, my vet said is a toy breed problem. I know you are confuse and you have ask for prayers, I think if you pray to God to give you wisdom and to put the right people on your way regarding this issue with Layla He will;)

Thanks :) That is so sweet of you :D

Yorkiedaze 10-15-2008 02:02 PM

Marci, I'm going to attend a nutrition class this evening and will ask the Dr. about Layla's problem. I ran into her at the vitamin store awhile ago and was only able to ask her a quick question about Layla and she said she too would suggest rabbit meat and fresh veggies. I'll see if I can get more information this evening after class.

marcerella02 10-15-2008 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 2283876)
Marci, I'm going to attend a nutrition class this evening and will ask the Dr. about Layla's problem. I ran into her at the vitamin store awhile ago and was only able to ask her a quick question about Layla and she said she too would suggest rabbit meat and fresh veggies. I'll see if I can get more information this evening after class.

Donna you are an angel! Would anyone know where one would go about GETTING rabbit meat? short of sending Layla out to kill one herself :p she'd be happy to do it :p

marcerella02 10-15-2008 02:34 PM

Well i can't get an appointment with the nutritionist until next Tuesday- popular lady! So until then i'm going to feed white fish and sweet potato which are both very low in fat.

Wylie's Mom 10-15-2008 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by marcerella02 (Post 2283937)
Well i can't get an appointment with the nutritionist until next Tuesday- popular lady! So until then i'm going to feed white fish and sweet potato which are both very low in fat.

Good plan. One thing I did before my appt. was to write down everything I could think of that I wanted to ask, and any pertinent history as well - so you can get the most bang for your buck. You already have a lot of knowledge, so there'll be some shorthand between the two of you from the start in terms of nutrition - so you'll get a lot out of the appointment. Take a lot of notes - and I typed them all up the next day so I could remember everything. :)

marcerella02 10-15-2008 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2283967)
Good plan. One thing I did before my appt. was to write down everything I could think of that I wanted to ask, and any pertinent history as well - so you can get the most bang for your buck. You already have a lot of knowledge, so there'll be some shorthand between the two of you from the start in terms of nutrition - so you'll get a lot out of the appointment. Take a lot of notes - and I typed them all up the next day so I could remember everything. :)

GREAT idea Ann. I have a lot of questions and I forgot to tell her on my inital form that Layla has no symptoms which i think is very important.

LuvMySissy 10-15-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2283440)

Marci - I know Lauren used the diet from Susan Davis for Mango for quite a while. It is a home-cooked diet with white fish as the main ingredient. You stay on this for a full two weeks before slowly introducing other foods.

I believe Lauren was planning to put Mango on The Honest Kitchen Preference and add her own meat to it. She has done extensive research on foods and this was the one she liked the best from what she found.

Yorkieluv 10-15-2008 04:15 PM

Just reading this, Marci..I am so sorry to read that Layla has pancreatitis!! Poor girl :(
I concur with everyone else about homecooking. There is absolutely no reason not to homecook as long as she is getting the appropriate kinds of food and recommended amounts of fat for those who have pancreatitis. Prayers for Layla!!!

Yorkiedaze 10-15-2008 04:31 PM

I'll be leaving for class in an hour and I just remembered what I was going to mention to you awhile back. You may want to also check out Quinoa (keen-wah) to add a bit to her fish and is an excellent alternative to rice since it's higher in protien. I've been giving the girls this. I made and froze up veggie broth to cook it in.

tjdmom 10-15-2008 05:12 PM

Marci! I just want to add my get well wishes! I've heard really good things about Susan Davis, in fact I have her bookmarked on my computer, and I hope she's able to help! I know you will take good care of Layla and she'll be feeling better in no time!

143julz 10-15-2008 05:44 PM

Please keep us updated...good luck with class and getting your baby healthy.

Suzy 10-15-2008 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by marcerella02 (Post 2283879)
Donna you are an angel! Would anyone know where one would go about GETTING rabbit meat? short of sending Layla out to kill one herself :p she'd be happy to do it :p

Emma & Milli think they're good bunny hunters! They'll help Layla catch one! ;) :p

I wonder if you could find a local hunting group-maybe check at your sporting good stores and see if they have groups or people who will hunt deer, rabbit, or whatever other game you're looking to buy? It might be a place to start at least!

Also I agree with Donna on the quinoa-I have always wondered about feeding it, but never have gotten around to trying it. I can get it in the bulk food area of my grocery store, and at any health food store.

I don't know much about the Honest Kitchen-but I have talked to Jodie a bit about it and have thought about using it for my girls too.

Both are great ideas and things to explore! Maybe have questions about them ready for the nutritionist so that you can ask specifically about certain ingredients/ratios, as well as what foods to feed together-I know that some foods counteract fats, while others work together to help absorb certain nutrients.

Ellie May 10-16-2008 04:28 AM

How is Layla doing today? No symptoms still?
I was reading something online about chronic and mild pancreatitis in adult dogs being asymptomatic sometimes, so I guess it can happen.

It is is good that you do blood work on her to catch things before they become a big problem.:)

marcerella02 10-16-2008 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2284566)
How is Layla doing today? No symptoms still?
I was reading something online about chronic and mild pancreatitis in adult dogs being asymptomatic sometimes, so I guess it can happen.

It is is good that you do blood work on her to catch things before they become a big problem.:)

she's perfect today. She had a great day yesterday... outside... LOTS of exercise (we are GOING TO loose this pound!) she did some hydrotherapy... she ATE Her fish!!! i was worried she woudln't because it isn't her MOST favorite.. but she ate 2 plates of it! all is well! Thank god!

Suzy 10-16-2008 06:11 AM

WOW all great news! Exercise, eating her fish-what a good girl! :) Did you do potatoes or veggies with it? Just curious-I know that little Layla girl is a picky eater :) Hope your great day continues!

Reese1 10-16-2008 06:17 AM

Marci,

I am thinking about you and Layla and pray she will get healthy and be ok!
She has the best Mommie who will make sure to get her the best care possible!

marcerella02 10-16-2008 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Suzy (Post 2284662)
WOW all great news! Exercise, eating her fish-what a good girl! :) Did you do potatoes or veggies with it? Just curious-I know that little Layla girl is a picky eater :) Hope your great day continues!

She is having sweet potatos will it.... and loving it :p

celstu1 10-16-2008 07:27 AM

Oh sweetie, Im so sorry to hear this news. I'm sure you will get everything under control and worked out with Layla. In the meantime my prayers go out to you and Layla. Hang in there. I wish i could offer some advice.

YorkieMom55 10-16-2008 07:47 AM

Marci, I know that you will find the right way to get Layla on track. Prayers for you both. This is exactly what it's like to have kids, you never stop working to do what's best for them. Hugs

missPenny 10-16-2008 08:54 AM

I have no information or experience to offer, but we do send our prayers and well wishes for Miss Layla.

143julz 10-16-2008 11:05 AM

Begging for help!!!
 
I know you all will reading to follow up on Layla and hope she is well on her way to recovery......I hope someone out there can help me.

I TOO AM AND HAVE BEEN FOR OVER A MONTH trying to mend my Julz form this along with her other medical conditions. She has now decided that she doesn't want to eat, nor show an interest. I have tried all kinds of food combinations she will not eat the same thing back to back. I have to watch fat/protein/phrophus intake since she has kidney failure. In fact we go on Sat to learn to to do SQ at home. She now weighs 5.2 down from 9lb in Feb she is 14.5 yr. I'm really afraid the end is near and have been so sick with all of this since Sept. Are any of you familiar with this combo of conditions and know of anyone with luck getting their furkid to eat. She cannot afford to loose any more.
This afternoon she has vomit up her chik/rice from this morning, not sure if that is what caused it or the pepcid i was instructed to giver her last night, but wouldn't that have already come up???? I NEED HELP!!!
Sorry so long
i do not know how to post a new thread or i would have

Ellie May 10-16-2008 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 143julz (Post 2285019)
I know you all will reading to follow up on Layla and hope she is well on her way to recovery......I hope someone out there can help me.

I TOO AM AND HAVE BEEN FOR OVER A MONTH trying to mend my Julz form this along with her other medical conditions. She has now decided that she doesn't want to eat, nor show an interest. I have tried all kinds of food combinations she will not eat the same thing back to back. I have to watch fat/protein/phrophus intake since she has kidney failure. In fact we go on Sat to learn to to do SQ at home. She now weighs 5.2 down from 9lb in Feb she is 14.5 yr. I'm really afraid the end is near and have been so sick with all of this since Sept. Are any of you familiar with this combo of conditions and know of anyone with luck getting their furkid to eat. She cannot afford to loose any more.
This afternoon she has vomit up her chik/rice from this morning, not sure if that is what caused it or the pepcid i was instructed to giver her last night, but wouldn't that have already come up???? I NEED HELP!!!
Sorry so long
i do not know how to post a new thread or i would have

You can post a new thread by going to "Forums" (top left of screen) then "Sick and Emergencies" then "New Thread".

When there are so many medical problems involved and you want to homecook, there is no way around talking to a nutritionist. It is doing but then will she even eat it? Are you opposed to prescription diets? If she has been refusing to eat for more than a couple days, since she is so skinny, has your vet thought about putting her on an IV?

Yorkiedaze 10-16-2008 11:51 AM

Marci the only thing I was able to learn last evening was this: First off sweetpotatoes are difficult to digest because of the high fiber, (but my girls eat it and so far no problems, but they only get it a couple times a month) not to feed high glycemic foods such as white breads, cheerios, (among 24 other cereals, but this one seems to be a favorite snack), Instant rice, jasmine rice, tapioca, watermelon, carrots instant potatoes, red skinned potato, russet potato, parsnips, pumpkin, white potatoes, corn pasta, rice pasta, and a few more but not what we feed our pets.
The good foods would be: coarse barley kernel, pumpernickel, whole grain, cereals; barley, buckwheat, bulgur, kellogg's All-Bran, Kellogg's Special K, muesli, non-toasted, old fashioned & oatmeal. Grains & Rice; barley buckwheat bulgur, long grain rice,& rye whole kernels. Fruits; apple, applesauce (no sugar) dried apricots, blackberries blueberries, peaches, pears, plums, prunes, pitted, raspberries, & strawberries. Vegetables; alfalfa, broccoli, celery, peas, green, snow peas, sugar snap peas & zucchini.
There are lots more but too many to mention all at once.

I think with the white fish, veggies & exercise, she will do beautifully! ;)


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