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03-21-2008, 09:51 PM | #1 |
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| Kidney stones(information needed please) Got up this morning and Harley had been sick during the night and was really doing poorley. As time went by he was getting worse so I rushed him into the vet and I guess he has kidney stones!! They put a cath in him to empty his blatter some and said grainey stuff came out. He is now on antibotics and pain meds and they told us to keep a close eye on him. I tried search and didnt come up with any information on this. If anyone out there has any info they could pass on to me I would be very thankful. Thank you, Kathy-Ut |
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03-21-2008, 10:04 PM | #2 |
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| I don't know a lot about Kidney Stones but posted a thread a few days ago about my stepmom's doxie. Here is the link:http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=122153 I had a couple of responses and googled it also. I hope he gets better soon.
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03-22-2008, 04:27 AM | #3 |
Donating YT 30K Club Member | Sorry I don't have any experience with kidney stones in dogs but hopefully someone else will post. Hope your baby gets better soon.
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03-22-2008, 06:59 AM | #4 |
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| I know that kidney stones can pass naturally. They aren't life threatning. It's good that you got them removed. It will be better for your baby not to have the pain of passing them. But sometimes kidney stones come back. So keep a close eye on him. I hope your baby feels better soon and recovers quickly.
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03-22-2008, 07:27 AM | #5 |
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| Im sorry I dont know to much on this but I did do a search for you and found these links. hope they help. http://www.2ndchance.info/calculi.htm http://www.petplace.com/dogs/nephrol...ogs/page1.aspx
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03-22-2008, 07:38 AM | #6 |
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| I am fostering a pup who recently had bladder stone surgery. Their diet needs to be altered, so please do some reading. Place kidney stone or bladder stone in the search area and you will come up with many discussions. The diet is probably too high in protein, and there are excellent holistic meals to help eliminate the stones. There is an old says "once a stone maker, always a stone maker". Warmly, Deborah
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03-22-2008, 09:08 AM | #7 |
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| i do not know anything about kidney stones in pups but wanted to say that i hope he is doing better after he was flushed out! we will keep you and harley in our thoughts!
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03-22-2008, 04:43 PM | #8 |
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| Thank you for your responses. Harley was doing good this morning, going potty ok and eating the chicken and rice. But now this evening, he has not gone potty in quite a while, and you can tell when he is trying he is in pain, so they must not have all come out. I am going to watch him close for another hour or so and than its off to the emerg. vets in hopes they will cath him again to see if that will get him through the weekend till our vet is in again. I will do another search and see if I can find any info...thank you for the links, I will read them this evening. Please say a prayer for him, I have only had him for a few months, but the first 3 years of his life were pretty rough....it should be time for him to have some fun and comfort for a while. Thanks again, Kathy-Ut |
03-22-2008, 05:44 PM | #9 |
Donating YT 30K Club Member | Oh I'm sorry to hear he's having problems again. I hope he can pass them on his own.
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03-22-2008, 07:04 PM | #10 |
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| Are they kidney stones or bladder stones? It sounds like bladder stones. You need to have the vet check your baby's urine pH and more importantly analyze the stones to find out what kind they are. This is very important. If you do not find out and alter the diet appropriately, your baby will continue to make stones. This is extremely painful and if he has not peed in a long time, he *needs* to go the vet. If he is not able to urinate, his bladder can rupture which can kill him. This happened to my dog when he was a pup. He was straining to pee, but nothing would come out, so I took him to the vet and they placed a catheter to help him out. They sent him home, and he seemed fine, but later that evening, the problems started again and he was having a very hard time urinating, so I had to take him back in. Stones are recurring, and that's why it's absolutely vital to find out what type of stones your dog is forming. Stones are also a symptom of liver shunt/MVD, so I would definitely have a bile acid test done as well, especially if these stones turn out to be ammonium biurate which are basically a by-product of liver problems.
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03-22-2008, 07:09 PM | #11 |
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| Also, I want to mention that x-rays do NOT show all types of stones, so if necessary, it's optimal to have an ultrasound done as well. Ammonium urate stones do not show on x-rays.
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03-22-2008, 07:19 PM | #12 |
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| "Stones are recurring, and that's why it's absolutely vital to find out what type of stones your dog is forming. Stones are also a symptom of liver shunt/MVD, so I would definitely have a bile acid test done as well, especially if these stones turn out to be ammonium biurate which are basically a by-product of liver problems." Can all breeds of dogs have liver shunt problems? just curious. Is there a good place online to find accurate info on the kidney stones? I need to do more research for my stepmom's doxie. Thanks.
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03-22-2008, 07:37 PM | #13 |
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| Yes, all breeds of dogs can have liver shunts..I know of German Shephards, Maltese, Retrievers, Collies, Bichons, Dauchsunds, Chihuahuas, etc. Both small breed and large breed dogs. I will post a few websites for you regarding stones..
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03-22-2008, 07:42 PM | #14 | |
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Sending prayers for Harley...your right he should be enjoying life now that he is in a loving caring home! Keep us posted!
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03-22-2008, 07:50 PM | #15 |
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| Bladder stones and kidney stones are different...Bladder stones are much more common than kidney stones, so it's likely that the dog probably has bladder stones. Bladder stones are what will cause a dog to strain during urination, etc. Also, it's important to remember about ammonium urate stones. These are seen in dogs with liver disease/liver shunt/MVD or in dalmations. Some types of stones do not show up on x-rays which is why ultrasounds are recommended. http://www.lbah.com/canine/urolithiasis.htm
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