wow ss to hear that..

You should definetely PM Val and talk to her about neck injuries, I think that she could help you. She can probably tell you what's what and steer you in the right direction.

Praying Lucy will make a speedy recovery!

So sorry Lucy is having so much trouble. You really need to take Val's advice about the 2 kinds of x-rays - praying she's better

Poor Baby, i hope they can help her !

Thoughts and prayers your way.

Mri's are clearer than a Xray but AAI can be seen on a digital Xray.. And AAI(Atlantoaxial Instability) is just not congenital.. It can be acquired.. If you would like information on this please let me know.. I can send you many articles on this.. IT is what caused Babybear's problems the AAI.. But we did not know he had it.. And is was congenital.. Please make sure you tell the vets what to do you pay them they do not pay you.. If you do not like what one vet says see someone until you feel comfortable.. You would for your children do the same for you pup.. This is a furmom and furless mom speaking from a lot of experiance.. And please if you just want to talk Pmail me and I will give you my email addy so you can either write me there or IM me off list..And please take a few minutes to check out Babybear's web page if you haven' already.. We have been through a lot with him.. http://www.dogster.com/dogs/136060
I am hoping everything is going okay this weekend.. And you baby is not in a lot of pain.. If you baby is in pain please take it to the ER and have them check you sweetie..

Val~

Good to see you and as far as my 10 cents goes..

I VALIDATE ANYTHING VAL SAYS (BABY BEARS MOM)

This lady and YT parents helped me and my baby Bleu Boy through a very tough situation and we are just now pulling out of it....

Bleu boys was a birth congenital defect but I agree it can be acquired as welland this is exactly what I think you are experiencing

Bleu boy just had surgery and has been in a cast 7 weeks with one week to go... He has ATLANTO AXIAL SUBLUXATION.

Please get your baby to a specialists a neurosurgeon specifically... I am sorry to tell you but giving the baby medicine is just masking the pain....

If you do not get the situation taken care of right away you are going to start seeing signs of PARALYSIS... I am not trying to scare you and I am by far no vet... BUT LUCYS SYMPTOMS ARE THE SAME AS BLEUS WAS!!

One minute fine one minute not~ Going in circles... If I was to make a educated guess the reason your baby is going in circles is because there is too much pressure on the spinal column.... You have to get this corrected immediately.... MRI MRI MRI ... I woud not let ONE DOCOTOR DO SPINAL MANIPULATION ON YOUR DOG AS THEY CAN MAKE THINGS WORSE... Most vets do not know how to diagnose this .....

SEE A SPECIALISTS! Please I beg you and I am willing to give you my phone number to answer any questions.

I will be awaiting your reply.. Please keep me updated.... I am worried about your baby !!!

PLEASE READ THIS


http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=110887





First of all I reread this whole thread but called hubby in here this time to read with me and I missed the part where you were feeding your baby chicken... I am just gonna share our experience does not mean it is right or wrong just means this is what we WENT THROUGH!!!

I was told by the vet to put Bleu on all gerber chicken graduate baby food.....

Surgeon at A&M said one of the worst things we did......

Needless to say he is off all baby food and will never in his life have CHICKEN AGAIN OF ANY SORT... W have been told the yorkshire terrier breeed has the most sensitive digestive system and chicken is so high in protein....

I would not want my baby to starve by any stretch of the imagination and I was only doing what the vet said do but his actual surgeon said NO NO NO NO NO....

Before diganosing his AAS they too thought Bleu had a liver shunt.... Their symptoms will make you think that.. He does not have liver shunt but too much protein can definitley make you think that....

I am sure you are doing all you know to do and I bet when Lucy is having a good moment you are thinking she is on her way to recovery and I would love to say that she is but I have a feeling she is not and I am not trying to scare you I am only wanting you to be urgent and not wait any more days before you get the test that says exactly what is going on...

Bleu was good at going to the doctor and acting like nothing was wrong ... DID PERFECT but the minute we left he was wobbling going in circles walking backwards not responding ect.... I am going to find you our whole thread and I would like for you to read it and see if your Lucy is experiencing any of what BLUE experienced...

Please know I am only trying to help you not scare diagnose or anything This just hits so close to home with me and my heart is breaking into. I want your baby to be helped and correctly diagnosed so she can live a long healthy life with you ....

Vicki

:( I was hoping for a update!

:( So sorry about Lucy! I hope you can find out something very soon!

I don't think I saw Baby Bear's story before, but I have been very concerned from reading Bleu's story. I sent you pmail and I would be happy to hear anything you have to say. I am so worried.

My dil thinks I should find a doggy chiropractor, but I'm not one that has a lot of faith in chiropractors of any kind and I can't help but think how much damage could be done by messing with her little spine.

Thanks,
Janice

Oh my I am so in the middle when I type this and that is not where I want to be .... NO DOGGY CHIROPRACTOR .....

Specialists only .. NEUROSURGEON!!!

I am not trying to scare you but I truly think from the bottom of my heart that the vet who took Bleus neck and did a chiropractic adjustment made it worse.....

I wanted to share with you the link I sent you did not give you th whole story and I am sorry... I dont know how to post links well...

To see the whole story on Bleu including pictures and dad by day since Jan 10, 2008 till now one week from getting his final cast off..

Click on my picture avatar with bleu in his cast kissing me then it will say read all threads started by this user... Go to the very last page should be page 3 and it is the 2nd thread I ever posted you can read the whole story that way....

I pray you get good rest tonight and know many people are already praying for your baby.... These sweet hearts touch us in a way that can not be explained and I have the utmost faith she is in the greatest hands and is going to get the best care possible.....

Breathe in and breathe out we are here for you!

Vicki

You can't possibly be any more worried about Lucy than I am. You are not scaring me anymore than I am already scared. It's been close to a week with very little improvement. I have followed your thread as you were posting, and that is all I've been worried about ever since she was injured. I will, however, go back and read it again to make sure I didn't miss any.

I had already planned to call a specialist tomorrow. My vet recommended one place and there is also a neorosurgeon at the place I took her for her LP surgery. I will start with the place I took her before, as they were great then. If I'm not satisfied with what they tell me, I will contact the other one. I will make sure that everything is done to find the extent of her injury and fix it.


I didn't feed Lucy baby food chicken (not really). I flavored her water with about a quarter of a teaspoon of it to make it more appealing to her so she would drink something. I am feeding her canned dog food as she seems to have a hard time with dry.

Appreciate your concern for Lucy. I love this little one. She is very special to me. I miss her sense of humor, as I haven't seen much of it in the last week. Please continue your concern for her and pray for her that she comes through this OK.

Did Bleu get his cast off this week, or is that still coming up? I can't keep anything straight right now.

I have to go tuck my grandson in, my son suggested he spend the night here tonight. Isn't that nice, that they invite their son to my house? They asked him if he wanted to stay before they checked with me. Geesh! I love the kid, but I'm tired. Oh well!!

Thanks,
Janice

Oh sweet Janice~

I hear it in your voice and I can only imagine what you are going through right now...

I know you are scared ...

I would do this .. If you have a small crate to put your baby in put her in it...I would only take her out to potty and eat and then put her back in there.. She is protected that way....

I want to say that if she did have a reinjury or make it worse I still think they can fix it...Babybears neck was totally broke and they were able to fix him ...I was going back and forth to docs from Jan 10th till the 18th the day Bleu had his surgery and though I was scared and out of my mind he did not hurt himself any worse. They have a self mechanism of protecting themself...


I would pull Bleus face to me to kiss him and he would put his paw up and keep me from moving his head. I thought at first he was rejecting me but he wasn't he was trying to keep me from hurting him because I had no idea at this time what was happening....

You are doing great.... I am sure you have alot on your plate and wondering which direction to go ..We are here to support you .....

I know it is hard when your baby has lost her humor and fiestiness.. I can reassure you with proper treatment you will get her back... Bleu is normal 100% normal.. I can get you in contact with about 2 other people with success stories like Bleu. Val can also help you with success stories .. Baby bears story is so motivational and it was his story that got us through....I could not have made it without Val and YT paw parents and last but not least GOd and my family......

Bleu goes for his last cast this Thurs and then hubby and I will take it off one week from that day...

Thank you for asking..... YOu are going to get through this and have your little baby back to normal again...

Praying for you Janice and praying for your baby !

Hugs from the heart
Vicki

I am just seeing this thread now.. my goodness this is aweful for you and for Lucy;;; I pray she is going to be ok.. I know you are worried sick.. I can see this in your posts..
Keep us posted on how she is doing... puppy hugs to you and lucy....

Lucy is has an appointment tomorrow morning at 9AM to see neurologist Isabel Ducharme at Michigan Veterinary Specialists in Soutfield. I would like to find an inexpensive pet friendly motel near there. I'll probably have to take everybody, since I have no one to leave them with.

My groomer usually watches them, but she's been spending the weekdays in Detroit lately, where her husband is receiving Chemo.

Very good news. Sure wish someone was in your area to help out with your other babies... I just had one and he was the patient and that was trying enough.. I can only imagine what you are going through!....

Praying for you today..

Vicki

I don't know Michigan at all but Motel 6 is cheap & allows pets.

Also check out this website - it could help you find some http://www.petswelcome.com/

My heart goes out to you and Lucy. I am wishing you the best. I am sending hugs to you. I will keep you in my thoughts and check in later for an update!:animal-pa

Hugs,
Mary

HI there Everyone,
I have started a candle ceremony for Lucy for her appointment and for any after care she will need.. So please take a minute for Lucys and family and light a candle.. Thank you all so much..
We are keeping you in our thoughts and prayers..Lucy and family..
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/...l=eng&gi=NLucy
We are so happy that Lucy is going to see the Neurologist and that they know about AAI/AAS..This is great..Best of luck to you..We will have you on our minds all day..

Val~

You are so loving caring and thoughtful and Babybears story lives on once again..... Thank you for everything you have done for us ...

We lit a candle for Lucy~

I will be lighting one at home as well .....

Vicki

praying for you & Lucy. Candle is also lit.

Thank you all so much for the prayerrs and candles.

Guess I'm waiting to leave until early morning and hope the storm isn't as bad as expected. I can't find a hotel that will accept more than one pet and my vet won't board the other dogs as they didn't get their bordatella as they were supposed to. They told me they were getting bordatella, but it's not in their records so they can't stay there. Nobody else will keep them without having their bordatella either, so there's no point in even checking with any place else. What a bunch of poop!

Have you posted in the Regional forum in Michigan to see if maybe a member lives nearby & could help you with pet sitting at least while you're at the appt?

I'm in Iowa, but in the central part of the state & I'm sure you're probably suppose to get the same system - it has been slow getting here- it was suppose to start at 6 am, but it just started raining here about 2:15pm central time - then the snow & wind are suppose to come still later tonight. I know the meterologist are having a hard time even predicting time & snow totals.

Praying for safe travel too!

Hi everyone and thanks for all the prayers and candles. I took Lucy in to see Dr Ducharme this morning and they scheduled her for xrays and CT scans. She was almost positive it was AAS. It killed me to leave her there.

Now I'm sitting in the hotel in Southfield. I just got a call from the doctor and it is definitely AAS. Lucy is scheduled for immediate emergency surgery as ther is a piece of bone pressing on her spinal cord. I was told to be prepared for the worst. All I can do is pray and cry. I cry a lot. She didn't want me to leave and that may the last time I see her alive.

The surgery should take about 2 hours and she may not make it through. If she makes it through the surgery it will still be touch and go for 24 hours to make sure she can breat on her own and keep breathing. I will let you know as soon as they let me know.

I would appreciate all your prayers for my little Lucy.

I am sending prayers,love and hugs your way for you and Lucy. My heart is with you!Thank you for the update.

Hugs,
Mary

oh, I'm sitting here at work crying for you and dear Lucy. I will pray for excellent care through the surgery and afterwards. May she recover as well or better than Bleu. Praying for you to have peace and to be surround by those who care and understand. Hugs to you hon.

Im crying ! Im so sorry .. God can do anything... He is no respector of persons what he will do for one he will do for all.. I have faith 100% faith Lucy is going top pull through.. I have cold chills all over... This hits so close to home with me... I feel your hurt.. I want to talk to you and reassure you of some things... I have researched every possibility and I have words I feel will comfort and encourage you.....

From my heart to yours and
Gods Love
Vicki:( :( :( :(

I will call you at hotel if you email me the number !