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Sandysbabies 01-17-2008 10:14 AM
Never hurts to get a second opionion. When Tina was diagnosed with Wellingbrands disease a few yrs. back, you would be surprised at the vets I talked to that really did not know what to do. Just so happened they hired a new vet and she knew exactly what to do. Tina's count was so low she said she was afraid she might even bleed out at home. They began to treat her and I even had my church pray and today she is completely well. Prayer changes things too. Don't give up.
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Ellie May 01-17-2008 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Yorkieluv (Post 1681274)
Even if the results were within the "normal" range, look at the numbers and see if they are on the HIGH side of normal or LOW side of normal....This may give you more insight...Are there any numbers like that?? Within normal, but on the high/low end?

This piece of paper is cut off so I can't read some of the abbreviations. I only have the results from the first panel. The questionable ones are ?OS 2.9 (reference range 2.5-6.8), TBIL 9.2 (regerence range 0.0-0.9), BUN 23 (reference range 7-27), ?CI 119 (reference range 109-122).

Yorkieluv 01-17-2008 10:19 AM
How was the BUN, cholesterol, etc?

Ellie May 01-17-2008 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Sandysbabies (Post 1681280)
Never hurts to get a second opionion. When Tina was diagnosed with Wellingbrands disease a few yrs. back, you would be surprised at the vets I talked to that really did not know what to do. Just so happened they hired a new vet and she knew exactly what to do. Tina's count was so low she said she was afraid she might even bleed out at home. They began to treat her and I even had my church pray and today she is completely well. Prayer changes things too. Don't give up.
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I asked the vet to test in the first place because I am a worried mom.:) She says it's time for a specialist, so off we go. I wonder how much $$$ this will be.

Ellie May 01-17-2008 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Yorkieluv (Post 1681307)
How was the BUN, cholesterol, etc?
BUN was 23. If you have any idea what is going on and her other blood panel results can help you, I will get them from the vet...

kay6688 01-17-2008 10:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandysbabies (Post 1681280)
Never hurts to get a second opionion. When Tina was diagnosed with Wellingbrands disease a few yrs. back, you would be surprised at the vets I talked to that really did not know what to do. Just so happened they hired a new vet and she knew exactly what to do. Tina's count was so low she said she was afraid she might even bleed out at home. They began to treat her and I even had my church pray and today she is completely well. Prayer changes things too. Don't give up.
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Ellie May 01-17-2008 10:27 AM
Does cirrhosis or hepatitis ring a bell with the elevated bile acids? They just aren't classic shunt symptoms. How about a reaction to a lepto vaccine causing liver damage? Is it possible?

BLEU BOY BARBER 01-17-2008 10:29 AM
Hey Sweetehart

You Are Educated Where I Was Not But I Will Be A Vet Before Long Haha

I Agree Get Ultrasound I Went To Texas A&m And For Ultrasound And All Liver Work Up Thinking It Was A Shunt And It Wasnt It Was 660.00

We Are Totally Doing Something Else Now But Please Whatever You Are Doing I Dont Know You And I Have Not Read Your Post Dont Give Your Baby Chicken And Watch Her Every Move For Neurological Symptoms...

I Dont Know The Age Of Your Baby Either And Im So Panicy Right Now With My Current Situation At Hand That I Want To Tell Everyone So No One Goes Through What I Am Going Through.. I Dont Wish It On Anyone....

Get Ultrasound And Go To Specialists .... Tell Them To Tell You Everything They Do Before They Do It And As Far As Financially Tell Them You Want To Know Daily What The Bill Is .. Texas A&m Has A Program Where You Pay So Much And Then They Finance The Rest

They Have Been So Good To Me And With Me Through Everything I Say Prayers For You And Your Baby As This Is Hitting Too Close To Home...

Please Email Me For Support Im Right Here With You !!!
Hugs
Vicki

TLC 01-17-2008 10:46 AM
Oh boy - What is going on :confused:

I do think you may have to see a specialist, but I warn you that 'they' will want to do ALL the tests again themselves.

I hope you can get to the bottom of this :(

yorkieusa 01-17-2008 10:47 AM
We can hope it's just a blip and won't happen again. We're praying for you all.

Ellie May 01-17-2008 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BLEU BOY BARBER (Post 1681355)
Hey Sweetehart

You Are Educated Where I Was Not But I Will Be A Vet Before Long Haha

I Agree Get Ultrasound I Went To Texas A&m And For Ultrasound And All Liver Work Up Thinking It Was A Shunt And It Wasnt It Was 660.00

We Are Totally Doing Something Else Now But Please Whatever You Are Doing I Dont Know You And I Have Not Read Your Post Dont Give Your Baby Chicken And Watch Her Every Move For Neurological Symptoms...

I Dont Know The Age Of Your Baby Either And Im So Panicy Right Now With My Current Situation At Hand That I Want To Tell Everyone So No One Goes Through What I Am Going Through.. I Dont Wish It On Anyone....

Get Ultrasound And Go To Specialists .... Tell Them To Tell You Everything They Do Before They Do It And As Far As Financially Tell Them You Want To Know Daily What The Bill Is .. Texas A&m Has A Program Where You Pay So Much And Then They Finance The Rest

They Have Been So Good To Me And With Me Through Everything I Say Prayers For You And Your Baby As This Is Hitting Too Close To Home...

Please Email Me For Support Im Right Here With You !!!
Hugs
Vicki

Could I ask why no chicken? This is usually thought to be more acceptable for liver compromised dogs then beef. Of course, others are better like egg or soy but I haven't heard of it causing problems. So why no chicken?

Ellie May 01-17-2008 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TLC (Post 1681422)
Oh boy - What is going on :confused:

I do think you may have to see a specialist, but I warn you that 'they' will want to do ALL the tests again themselves.

I hope you can get to the bottom of this :(

I was talking to the vet about this. She had said before that they will want to do tons of stuff. Then today I said what are they going to make us do besides the ultrasound? She said they can't make us do anything and she is writing a letter to let them know that I'm informed and just want an ultrasound because everything else has been done.:) Ellie's vet is the best. We will hope that they don't insist on more BAT.

Yorkieluv 01-17-2008 10:51 AM
Praying for Ellie....Maybe you could get your blood results and post them on the liver shunt group.

TLC 01-17-2008 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 1681436)
I was talking to the vet about this. She had said before that they will want to do tons of stuff. Then today I said what are they going to make us do besides the ultrasound? She said they can't make us do anything and she is writing a letter to let them know that I'm informed and just want an ultrasound because everything else has been done.:) Ellie's vet is the best. We will hope that they don't insist on more BAT.
Oh good. Actually, the retest of the BAT was pretty cheap compared to the rest of the stuff. The initial visit is like $130 itself. My total bill for the u/s and everything else came to approx $700

You guys are in my prayers. Mine get retested on Monday and I am scared now :(

BLEU BOY BARBER 01-17-2008 10:54 AM
Sweety,

I Read No Chicken Right Here On Yorkie Talk Then I Talked To My Specialists About It And I Was Told Way Too Much Protein In The Chicken And The Liver Can Not Process Like It Is Suppose To ...

I Had Bleu On Baby Gerber Graduate Chicken Per My 2nd Vet And Really Thought I Was Doing What I Was Suppose Todo By Following Vet Orders And The Specialists Told Me For A Liver Condition That Is One Of The Worst Things You Could Feed Your Baby Is Chicken...

I Will Have More Information On This With Bleus Discharge Papers And I Will Scan Fax Email Call Or Whatever Helps You His Entire Liver Work Up ... Luckily Bleus Liver Is Normal In Size And Is Doing Its Proper Job By Breaking Down The Protein And Not Backing Up In His System Causing Bad Toxins. This Is Really As Much As I Know Im Learning But Trust Me I Will Be Educated On The Yorkshire Breed As It Is My Passion Now!

Hugs
Im Praying I Truly Am
Standing In The Gap That The Lord Will Give You Answers And Put People In Your Path To Help You Just As He Has Done Me


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