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Old 04-13-2010, 04:43 PM   #61
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I'm not 100% positive...but I think the thinking back then was it was more valuable to get a trained dog...i.e. an older dog with some training rather than a puppy which you need to train...And sometimes I think that this is a mistake many of us make. We want to take part in that cute/fluffy state, but forget how much work goes into a puppy in that first year or so, to come out with a well trained companion. (When I think of the money I spent in training classes/time and energy training my first dog....)
You are somewhat correct, as the yorkie in it's developmental stages were bred to be ratters, by peasants. Not only was this their job, but there were also bets placed on them to see how fast and how many rats one yorkie could kill.

You are right though, training a puppy is a lot of work.
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All I can do is suggest that you read it again, in the first paragraph I said,
Not going to nit pick, over wording.

Just wanted to let people know that not all NON show breeders are in it for the money. Many of us are just as concerned about the dog as you are. We do not breed just for one trait.

As for me, health and temperament come first. if you do not have a healthy good tempered dog, looks are meaningless, unless you are showing.
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It's ok! Thanks for sharing our experience.

I think Nancy's post is a thought provoking one. Especially to future puppy buyers. Educating them on which breeders would be best to support. My opinion this line of education, if widely spread can to a lot towards stamping out Puppy Millers, BYBers, Wholesalers....
Mary, I agree 100%....You know, I've gone over in my head a lot this evening and I am who I am as an exhibitor/breeder because I stand my ground and not faulter to peer pressure and what others want me to do or say. I don't let ANYONE tell me I can't do this the right way or have "limited" success because I didn't crumble under peer pressure just makes myself work harder to be my best and I've done well in what I've done so far. I don't sugar coat anything, I'm blunt and I feel the best breeders/exhibitors should be the same way. Asking way too much for a yorkie, doing this for money or supplying the pet market, not breeding to the best of the representation, showing a yorkie just to say they have a champion, not having health as the #1 priority in a breeding program should never be supported...educate them absolutely...I feel one should be in this endeavor for the love and passion for this breed!!! Making money in this should NEVER be the goal!! I've made friends and I've made enemies. Friends I've made for a life time and enemies Im sure the same LOL...I appauld Nancy who is not a breeder but a pet owner and stand behind reputable and responsible breeders and has educated herself on this wonderful breed!! Sure we as breeders make mistakes and I hope one would learn from those mistakes, I for one have learned many and it has made me stronger as a person and a exhibitor/breeder. My breeding program will be my own and I alone will be the one to decide where my pups go and make sure they are healthy and happy and the best representation I can make them! If anyone has a problem with me as an exhibitor/breeder I say oh well then you don't need one of my dogs nor my friendship! Sorry this is so long but I guess I had to say some things that I've wanted to say for a long time...I refuse to sugar coat LOL...

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Mary, I agree 100%....You know, I've gone over in my head a lot this evening and I am who I am as an exhibitor/breeder because I stand my ground and not faulter to peer pressure and what others want me to do or say. I don't let ANYONE tell me I can't do this the right way or have "limited" success because I didn't crumble under peer pressure just makes myself work harder to be my best and I've done well in what I've done so far. I don't sugar coat anything, I'm blunt and I feel the best breeders/exhibitors should be the same way. Asking way too much for a yorkie, doing this for money or supplying the pet market, not breeding to the best of the representation, showing a yorkie just to say they have a champion, not having health as the #1 priority in a breeding program should never be supported...educate them absolutely...I feel one should be in this endeavor for the love and passion for this breed!!! Making money in this should NEVER be the goal!! I've made friends and I've made enemies. Friends I've made for a life time and enemies Im sure the same LOL...I appauld Nancy who is not a breeder but a pet owner and stand behind reputable and responsible breeders and has educated herself on this wonderful breed!! Sure we as breeders make mistakes and I hope one would learn from those mistakes, I for one have learned many and it has made me stronger as a person and a exhibitor/breeder. My breeding program will be my own and I alone will be the one to decide where my pups go and make sure they are healthy and happy and the best representation I can make them! If anyone has a problem with me as an exhibitor/breeder I say oh well then you don't need one of my dogs nor my friendship! Sorry this is so long but I guess I had to say some things that I've wanted to say for a long time...I refuse to sugar coat LOL...

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You and I are not ones that feel that we must defend our breeding practices in anyway. We only have ourselves, our clients and the Man above to answer too. Selling puppies is not what attracted us to the Yorkshire Terrier Breed. It was that feeling you get when you walk into the ring with the best representation of the breed and having a trained judge give our dog the nod. Is it ego, competition, pride? Probably all. But, I pray that when I decide to leave the show/breeding world I leave the Yorkshire Terrier better than I found it.
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You and I are not ones that feel that we must defend our breeding practices in anyway. We only have ourselves, our clients and the Man above to answer too. Selling puppies is not what attracted us to the Yorkshire Terrier Breed. It was that feeling you get when you walk into the ring with the best representation of the breed and having a trained judge give our dog the nod. Is it ego, competition, pride? Probably all. But, I pray that when I decide to leave the show/breeding world I leave the Yorkshire Terrier better than I found it.
You are absolutely correct!! I may be a bi*** to some, ok I wear that title with pride LOL....I do pray when our time comes to leave the show/breeding world the Yorkshire Terrier will be better! It's all about educate, educate and more educating and standing behind this wonderful breed!! The yorkie is my passion

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You are absolutely correct!! I may be a bi*** to some, ok I wear that title with pride LOL....I do pray when our time comes to leave the show/breeding world the Yorkshire Terrier will be better! It's all about educate, educate and more educating and standing behind this wonderful breed!! The yorkie is my passion

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Now the bi**** tile you can't wear. Remember Nana hasn't handed it over yet....she holds the title of Mean Ole Bi*** and has the shirt with it printed on it. It was presented to her by members of the Bluebonnet Club. I'll have her wear it at the OK Specialty. Classy Shirt with the embrodery over the pocket.
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You are absolutely correct!! I may be a bi*** to some, ok I wear that title with pride LOL....I do pray when our time comes to leave the show/breeding world the Yorkshire Terrier will be better! It's all about educate, educate and more educating and standing behind this wonderful breed!! The yorkie is my passion

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Now the bi**** tile you can't wear. Remember Nana hasn't handed it over yet....she holds the title of Mean Ole Bi*** and has the shirt with it printed on it. It was presented to her by members of the Bluebonnet Club. I'll have her wear it at the OK Specialty. Classy Shirt with the embrodery over the pocket.
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Now the bi**** tile you can't wear. Remember Nana hasn't handed it over yet....she holds the title of Mean Ole Bi*** and has the shirt with it printed on it. It was presented to her by members of the Bluebonnet Club. I'll have her wear it at the OK Specialty. Classy Shirt with the embrodery over the pocket.
LOL Mary...I can wear the bi*** title just not "ole" LOL
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Definitely a link that I'm going to post on a Newbie's page if I find one wanting to buy a Yorkie. Very informative.....and I even understand it. ~Joanne~
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I think those that are trying to do right by the breed and trying to always do their best - are constantly thinking and analyzing their actions to themself. Why? Because they want to make sure that they are always making the right decisions. It is the love of the breed we do what we do!

I have been involved in yorkies for almost as long as I have been married and that is a very, very, very long time. I remembered when I had to retire for awhile while I raised my own kids. That was the hardest thing I ever had to do, since my yorkies were my babies. You put in your whole soul and sweat, and tears into them. I knew I had made the right decision at the time for the love of my skin kids and my fur kids, but it was the hardest thing to this day I have every had to do. I cried for months and even threw away all the ribbons, photos (most all of them), my Yorkie Tale magazines, almost everything, since I could not bear to look at them without getting so upset.
So now that I have returned - I am at it all the time and loving every minute of it. It is my love and passion! It is me. I thank God everyday for my yorkies and for allowing me the ability to return to having yorkies again and that means to do my best for them. That includes showing and everthing that goes with that to do right by the breed. Sure it would be easy to sit home on my recliner and watch TV, sit there talking on my phone and counting how many pups I could breed in a year, but that is not doing my best for the breed. So I am with you girl! It is about protecting the breed.

And you are right it is about education - educating people that buy the puppies, people that want to show, people that want to breed (especially them) and people that just want to love and take the best care of their yorkie. And we should never stop learning. I have seen good improvements in the breed since the 80s and some things I do not like to hear about. I will not go into this now. But you know how I feel.

Well, sorry so long. I just felt Donna's emotion and it touched me. I was just thinking Sunday how happy I was completly to have returned to having yorkies and showing again. I am in heaven and at peace with my dogs. Plain and simple.

And to Nancy - thank you for acknowledging the hard work it takes.
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Really great topic and thanks for starting the thread Nancy.
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Can you please tell me if there is any GOOD breeder or place that i can get a female yorki in MONTREAL QUEBEC CANADA???
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yes in deed prises for yorkies are expensive ,i am so glad that i did not pay so much .i love my chico so much he is a good dog and loves people
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I have a choice now between waiting for a litter or picking a 1 yr. old. My only doubt would be is will the older pup like it's new home after being in the breeders home for a year. Also, I think people like puppies because they see it as "new"..weird but true. I think I would like both..I would love to have an older pup first and than later introduce a puppy to the family. The breeder is asking the same price for all her dogs. As long as they are healthy and sweet..I guess it should not matter.
Gracie was 8 months old when I got her from a local breeder. It was a bit of a drive but it was a beautiful drive. Anyhow she was used to a doggy door and we didn't have one.

But she was super friendly when we met her and knew she was the one. I thought she was 1200.00 like the others but then when we paid her she charged us only $700.00.. And it was only because she had floppy ears.

This breeder had several yorkies running around the house and they were groomed, clean, and ALL were friendly, not even one of them shied away from us. When I get my male pup the end of the year I am going to go back to her.

I didn't want to deal with raising another little one at that time so getting an older puppy worked out well. She is 11 months now and pretty much house trained, attached to us instantly and is a good little girl.
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