Too Harsh/Rude or Cultural
 

Lately there have been many posts in threads that have been called extremely harsh/rude by some and cultural by others. It will be interesting to get a consesnus from YTers about whether these posts are cultural or a lack of good internet manners. This will be a public poll, so if you have an opinion on this issue, speak up and be seen. It will be very interesting to see who posts. There will only be two choices, because this is a black/white issue without grey inbetween. :D

Comments are always welcome but hummmm I wonder if it would be possible to keep comments (even negative ones) civil and polite. :D

I will make the first comment - In America we have the RIGHT of Freedom of Speech - with rights come responsibilities. Even though I have the RIGHT to say/type smeting, it might not be the right thing to say/type. I am responsible for my words - spoken and typed and the effect that they have on others.

We all have the freedom to speak our minds, but we also bear the responsibility of our words and actions.

I think with every right comes the burden of responsibility..regardless what it is. We may have the right to bear arms..but...

I am very careful with my wording here and the direction of my thoughts because it is a social gathering if you will. I would never want to hurt anyone's feelings. When you are typing/reading and you can't hear someones tone or see body movement it is easy to misunderstand someone's thought intent. However, rude comments or culturally directed comments are just obvious. Its out there and once it is said..it is said.

We are a socially polite bunch for the most part. Rarely do you see any cursing compared to what we probably say around the house at time:rolleyes:

I havent seen any blatent racial or cultural comments..ok maybe one..lol

But yes, I believe we have to own up to what we say

Latley I too have read some posts that have been very critical, rude, and hurtful to other members, more so new members coming here for help and advice. They should not have to leave here feeling more confused and alone than before they came.

Very well said. :aimeeyork

i agree

I have typed SO MANY posts and ended up deleteing them as i re-read i try and see if what i am saying can be taken the wrong way and if it can i delete it. Of course I dont want to hurt anyone intentionally. I will say this I have read many posts and shook my head at the ways it can be taken. SOme just dont think of others when they say stuff. I think we all know who those are eventually and avoid reading or posting to those people. There are a few that i will just skip right over their posts and go to the next being I dont wanna get upset or angry. I think the longer your a member and get to know others you realize who's intentions are what and just go from there! And if you see a member you think you know and read a post by them that strikes you wrong...Just ask them PRIVATELY what it meant and you'll prolly find it wasnt what you thought and all is well. Just a lil benefit of the doubt goes a long way!! If I ever say anything that seems odd or off the wall for me Id appreciate a PM saying "What the hell is wrong with you?????" :D and maybe a Are you serious???? lol Im appraochable and I NEVER mean to hurt feelings at all!!!!!!

Good Post!
 

uggggggg isnt that the worst?????? Its not like we are born with knowledge...its called live, learn, and educate!!!!!

most just want help or an ear, not belittled!

Me too! Cause if I say something that could hurt someone's feelings, I'd appreciate if my friends called me on it.

meeeeee too:thumbup:

I agree 100%. PLEASE PLEASE pm me and let me know that I've over-stepped the boundaries of civility. There are times when I am very passionate about a subject, but I try very hard to "attack issues" and not the people behind the post.

Thank you to all who have posted so far
 

I would like to thank everyone who has posted/voted so far. It is amazing how many people here at YT believe that we should be held accountable for the words we say/type and how they affect others. I am going to try very hard to thank each person who votes/posts in this thread, no matter how you vote or the content of your post. I will do that by pm so that I don't bog down the very important view points of our members.

Me three! Please let me know if any of my posts ever come across as rude or abrasive, because if it does it is unintentional. I would never post rudely on purpose. I think we all need to be positive posters.

Yes, this is the problem. I hate to see new members attacked. Education can be parted in a kind way. It just might require a bit more effort ;)

I know sometimes I haven't read something correctly and maybe commented and got someone upset, but I also know that others my miss what I'm saying -- but in the long run I am the responsible one.

We should be able to post our comments, but do so with some grace. And sometimes we have to just agree to disagree.

Please PM me if I have out stepped my boundaries and said something offensive. I'm certainly not here to offend

I am SO glad you started this thread. I really want to see just how many here will be TOTALLY honest with us here at YT and themselves! :rolleyes: I cast my vote for being responsible for how my words may affect others! And, I tend to not post much as a result. I find myself constantly sitting on my hands just to keep from getting involved with some of the petty issues that goes on around here. I have read WAYto many posts where a few select individuals have posted their opinion(s) in a manner in which they could care less of how it may affect others. And, for me that is just way out of character. The way I see things is if you don't like what someone has posted, just close the post and move on! If everyone did this, there really wouldn't be a need for this poll in the first place...Now, would there?!?! Remember Mother always said "If you don't have anything nice to say...DON'T SAY ANYTHING!":D

I am fairly new to this board. This is what I see. There are very educated members of this board who want to teach others about our beloved Yorkies. When they post it is most often the Newbies with fewer than 1,500 posts that are coming on calling them rude, hateful, mean, intolerant, intimidating, just to name a few. Now who is doing the unkind thing here? I read and re-read the posts looking for why the educator is being accused and most of the time I just can't find it. I have seen long time members siding with the complainers and it makes me very disappointed. Who is being the positive poster here? Again, JMHO. Joanne

As usual, I'm am totally in the dark here. I must miss a lot of posts or something because I have not read anything mean. This is also the first I've seen this string and am already too late to vote. I keep reading how upset people are about rude posters, but have not read any of those myself. Oh well!

Why are you too late to vote? I just did.

Keep in mind that many of the really rude posts have been deleted by Admin - but by that time they have already done the damage.

Joanne, I sincerely appreciate your comments. However, this was a poll without regards to whether the poster was an established member or a newbie. I would like to keep this one on track .....

The two questions were:

1) I have the right to speak my mind and if it hurts others it doesn't matter.
2) I have the right to speak my mind, but I also bear the responsibility of how my words affect others.

For the first time yesterday I was involved with a thread where a newbie left YT after all that mess. It wasn't the subject matter that I disagreed with it was how some posters worded their posts. I know that there are many smart, educated members here with a strong passion regarding some hot issues but some newbies come to YT to learn about those issues or have questions regarding those issues and want to learn. From them learning they can educate others and that's why YT and other forums exist..not just for pretty pictures and funny stories but to learn about our Yorkies and how to make their world a safer and healthier place.:animal-pa

Yes and by the time most people read heated threads the bad posts are deleted so some question why all the fuss? If they only saw what was deleted then maybe they would understand.:animal-pa

I could ask why commentary from one isn't allowed while others have been allowed to post their comments.

Every post on every forum, everywhere, is subjected to the reader’s perception and interpretation of the poster’s intent.

This includes what I just posted about...in every reader's mind a perception and/or opinion was formed.

Btw, I have always fully accepted the responsibility of my actions.

I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say? This poll, like every other YT thread is open to all to comment freely - I would just like to keep comments on topic. I would love to read comments from ALL who vote even those who believe that they have the right to say things even when they hurt others.

no the thread i am referring to had only one post deleted.

I have seen a cycle on YT since I joined. For a little while there seemed to be a lot of negativity. Then it was positive for awhile. And lately there does seem to be a lot of undertones to what people say. It is a shame when a new member gets jumped on. They are here to learn, as I have since joining. I have always said that the education I get out of YT outweighs the bad comments.

So yes, I feel one does have a responsibility to not hurt others when they speak. Once the comment is made, you can not take it back. Everyone has an opinion, sometimes it is best to keep it to yourself.

Your comments are off topic - please let's stay focused on the two poll questions and limit comments to the poll questions.

I think everybody should take responsibility for what they say but I have also seen where someone was called rude when they were just informing. Even when they put things like I am saying this gently. There seems to be alot of drama both ways lately. Those being accused of being rude and those scolding them

True.:thumbup: