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crystalsmom 10-10-2007 03:30 PM

I have a friend who was 43 and her hubby 44 when they had their 4th child by surprise lol. They worried to start with but then it kept them young in so many ways. Nick would be 82 when he has a teen ager in the house if he lives that long. His wife probably wanted a child and I suppose she is alot younger but I see that as selfish on her part.

tjdmom 10-10-2007 05:09 PM

IMO there are a lot of people saying it's selfish and in a way, I agree. Although noone really knows how long they will live, you could die when you're 20 so I have mixed feelings about that subject. And besides, is it any less selfish to bring kids into this world without a father or to have families falling apart as easily as they do nowadays? How is that any different? How many people are against Nick Nolte having a baby but have no problem with artificial insemination or having kids with different fathers out of wedlock? Really, I have mixed feelings about it all but don't see how one could have a problem with Nick Nolte being so old but not with artificial insemination or divorce or unwed mothers etc. ? Just my two cents.

crystalsmom 10-10-2007 05:18 PM

Well the thing is we were only asked about this subject "later in life children" Sure I'm against the other things in life but with this situation the odds are so against them and I would think if his wife wanted to have children she would have married a younger man. If she is a gold digger then it makes perfect sense. Then again that may not be the case and he could just want to flaunt his manhood???

btw I wanted to add I can see where someone would want to try artifical insemination if married.

crystalsmom 10-10-2007 05:28 PM

I'm kinda sorry I added that last line. A woman who wants a child that much married or not would be a good mother and most likely give a child a wonderful life. I like to see a man in a child's life but divorce has taken that away from so many and I think every woman has to do what they feel in their own heart.

tjdmom 10-10-2007 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalsmom (Post 1426230)
I'm kinda sorry I added that last line. A woman who wants a child that much married or not would be a good mother and most likely give a child a wonderful life. I like to see a man in a child's life but divorce has taken that away from so many and I think every woman has to do what they feel in their own heart.


So I think that's my point. Nick Nolte's wife is much younger than he and how is that any diffent than a woman having artificial insemination with no dad? At least Nick Nolte's child will know who his dad is, and who knows, may have him in his life for a very long time and if not, is it any worse than not having a dad at all? I'm not really sure how I feel about all of this so not saying I disagree with you but just thinking out loud.....:)

Janie616 10-10-2007 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bizzymammabee (Post 1423113)
I just read that Nick Nolte (66) just had a daughter. I don't mean to offend anyone but is it only me but I feel that is just a selfish thing to do. I know that children are gods gifts to us and I really don't think that it's a good idea to have children so late in life. It's not fair to that child. I know that there are no guarantees on a long life but I do really really think it's very selfish to have them that late in life.

Please share you thoughts :rolleyes:

judging from his most recent escapades DUI),
he should not be allowed to have children in his care anyway ..(JMHO) ..

I hope the mom is a lot younger, so she will be there for the little girl.

crystalsmom 10-10-2007 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tjdmom (Post 1426354)
So I think that's my point. Nick Nolte's wife is much younger than he and how is that any diffent than a woman having artificial insemination with no dad? At least Nick Nolte's child will know who his dad is, and who knows, may have him in his life for a very long time and if not, is it any worse than not having a dad at all? I'm not really sure how I feel about all of this so not saying I disagree with you but just thinking out loud.....:)

I know what you mean and soon women will be able to save their eggs as they do embryos and it just gets more and more complicated. I am glad you brought up the comparison.

drawlins27 10-10-2007 06:37 PM

I don't want to go too off topic but I did want to say that just because a single woman chooses to do artificial insemination doesn't mean that the child will grow up without a father. I might very well do artificial insemination at some point while I'm single, but it doesn't mean that I'll never get married. I do plan to get married one day but I don't want to rush into marriage with someone I don't love. Would it be better to get married just to have a child and have that child grow up in a home where the parents hate each other?

I want to be able to take my time to find that person I'm meant to be with. I have all the time in the world to find him, but unfortunately I don't have all the time in the world to have children. I can understand how it might be difficult for those with children to understand but just imagine what your life would be like without them. I'm just glad that the option is out there.

crystalsmom 10-10-2007 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by drawlins27 (Post 1426392)
I don't want to go too off topic but I did want to say that just because a single woman chooses to do artificial insemination doesn't mean that the child will grow up without a father. I might very well do artificial insemination at some point while I'm single, but it doesn't mean that I'll never get married. I do plan to get married one day but I don't want to rush into marriage with someone I don't love. Would it be better to get married just to have a child and have that child grow up in a home where the parents hate each other?

I want to be able to take my time to find that person I'm meant to be with. I have all the time in the world to find him, but unfortunately I don't have all the time in the world to have children. I can understand how it might be difficult for those with children to understand but just imagine what your life would be like without them. I'm just glad that the option is out there.

And that is why I have said that anyone that would go to these lengths and want a child so much would certainly be a wonderful mother. Like you said you are still young enough after you have the child to possibly marry. I consider you one of the smartest people on this site so I know it is well thought out. Best Wishes with your decision.

Janie616 10-10-2007 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by paulapoo (Post 1423586)
I'm 36 and I would love to have a baby! but I have terrible luck with men! I'm considering artificial insemination if I haven't met the right guy in the next couple of years. I'm "pro" later in life pregnancy- but I think 50 and over is a bit tooo late~!

Go for it ... Children are G-d's gift and we need more intelligent kids that are planned ...

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Originally Posted by drawlins27 (Post 1423660)
Same here, I'm 32 and I haven't gotten married yet because I haven't met "the one" and I don't want to settle just for the sake of getting married. But I do want children and I know that I can't wait forever. I've considered artificial insemination as well and even talked to my doctor about it and taken the required medical tests. I've decided to give it a few more years but its definitely an option for me. Nice to know I'm not alone!

I am young (under 30) and not ready to have children (well, until I get my PhD, at least) ...
However, in my opinion, as long as your health is okay, you can be an 'older' mom and still keep up with your kids,
and you bring so much more experience to the table ...

there are good points to either side ..
my sister had her kids young but she never bot the chance to travel and see the world ...
and b/c they were so young, the marriage fell apart ... **sigh**
soooooooo, as they say, life is like a box of chocolates ...
you never really know what you are going to get ..

and Tony Randall was 77, when his child was born ...
his wife was 50 years younger than he was.
Randall's child was 7 years old when Tony Randall died.

drawlins27 10-10-2007 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Janie616 (Post 1426417)
Go for it ... Children are G-d's gift and we need more intelligent kids that are planned ...

I am young (under 30) and not ready to have children (well, until I get my PhD, at least) ...
However, in my opinion, as long as your health is okay, you can be an 'older' mom and still keep up with your kids,
and you bring so much more experience to the table ...

You're pretty much in the same situation I was. I was in school getting my PhD while all of my friends were getting married and having children. It really hurts sometimes to feel that you have to choose between having a family or a career. But I think if you plan carefully and want it bad enough, it is possible to have both.

drawlins27 10-10-2007 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalsmom (Post 1426409)
And that is why I have said that anyone that would go to these lengths and want a child so much would certainly be a wonderful mother. Like you said you are still young enough after you have the child to possibly marry. I consider you one of the smartest people on this site so I know it is well thought out. Best Wishes with your decision.

Aww, thanks for such a nice compliment. My comment wasn't directed at you, or anyone else just my opinion on the issue. I've had many arguements with myself on this very issue about bringing a child into the world on purpose without a father. And then one day I realized that no one said he/she wouldn't have a father. Just because a single woman has a child doesn't mean she can't get married, it happens every day. That made me feel better but I still want to wait just a bit longer because it is a pretty big decision.

mizzwanned 10-10-2007 11:30 PM

I agree it's selfish. I think it's unfair to the child for them to grow up and their parents are so old that they cannot do things with them, or the parents to pass while the child is in his/her 20s. I am 20 now and my parents are in their early 50s, my grandma is 70 and if one of them were to pass i seriously think i would lose it and wouldn't know what to do. It would be great for them to still be here to see my future kids. Idk how old Nick Nolte's wife is but then again in hollywood a lot of famous men have kids with, marry wayyyy younger women so i guess the mom will be young still. I wanna have kids in a couple of yrs, cause once im in my 40s-50s i want to enjoy myself with my husband and take looong vacations :D

mizzwanned 10-10-2007 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by drawlins27 (Post 1426392)
I don't want to go too off topic but I did want to say that just because a single woman chooses to do artificial insemination doesn't mean that the child will grow up without a father. I might very well do artificial insemination at some point while I'm single, but it doesn't mean that I'll never get married. I do plan to get married one day but I don't want to rush into marriage with someone I don't love. Would it be better to get married just to have a child and have that child grow up in a home where the parents hate each other?

I want to be able to take my time to find that person I'm meant to be with. I have all the time in the world to find him, but unfortunately I don't have all the time in the world to have children. I can understand how it might be difficult for those with children to understand but just imagine what your life would be like without them. I'm just glad that the option is out there.

I agree. I think that if a woman wants children and doesn't have a partner to have them with then do whatever it takes to get them, if she is ready for them. If she wants them that much she will be a great mom!:)

grayxie 10-11-2007 04:39 AM

I remember years ago when Anthony Quinn had a baby at around age 80, I think he died a year later. I don't think it is selfish per se, but not the brightest thing to do to have a child that late in life. Even with all the modern medicine, and plastic surgery the truth is, you are still getting older. Burdening your kids at a young age with medical issues when they are about to graduate college and the parents are about to be put into a nursing home is very unfair. I think the kids will miss out on getting to know their parents as adults, and the experience of the parents with grandchildren.


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