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Shadow · 01-26-2007, 12:24 PM

Oh Happy day!!! Glad things are working out,see I told ya!

Tiggerwit · 01-26-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Willow

I have an authorization number on the receipt. The sheriff said he had the returned check right infront of him. I haven't seen it myself. I have mailed copies of everything to my cc company. The only things on the check are my husbands signature and the word VOID in the store owners handwriting. No endorsement on the back or anything.

Honey, there is no way in heck he can have a copy of your check because you have the original check, it was never sent anywhere. Are you sure he's really a Sheriff? You need to go to the Sheriff's office and meet with him. He would have contacted you in person.

Willow · 01-26-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfie and Tiki

~ Happy everything worked out! Let's see a picture of little Maddie........I love happy endings....

How about a couple of them? lol

These were taken earlier this week...Maddie's first snow.

Willow · 01-26-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiggerwit

Honey, there is no way in heck he can have a copy of your check because you have the original check, it was never sent anywhere. Are you sure he's really a Sheriff? You need to go to the Sheriff's office and meet with him. He would have contacted you in person.

I have confirmed that he is a deputy sheriff, but he is also friends with the store owner and the breeder so Ernie (my hubby) thinks he is in cahoots with them trying to scare me?

Tiggerwit · 01-26-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Willow

The sheriff said if I didn't make a decision to either pay or return the dog by Wednesday then they would be issuing criminal charges against me. ME because I am the one who signed the cc receipt that printed off the register and I am the one who took the check over. Yes, my husbands' signature is on the check.

I don't think Sheriff's give ultimatums like that. Can you contact the prosecutor's office? I work for a criminal attorney and where I'm from the police file the report and/or arrest you for a crime. The case is forwarded to the prosecutor's office and it's their decision to charge you or not.

You need to talk to an attorney and ask if this is on the up and up. Have him call the Sheriff. I'm telling you something stinks in all of this.

ARCHIE · 01-26-2007, 12:37 PM

Thank you special angel for helping Willow and family.
I do hope you can get some kind of legal assistance because
something stinks here!
Good luck to you and give Maddie a hug from Buddy.
I can't imagine having to give your baby away! What a nightmare.

Carol & Buddy

red98vett · 01-26-2007, 12:41 PM

I LOVE THREADS LIKE THIS WITH HAPPY ENDINGS !!!!!!!!!!!! Girl - you keep trying to find out what happened and all the best to you !! I just love the people here - you got such great advise and everyone just jumped in with ideas ....Way to go YT people !!

Willow · 01-26-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiggerwit

I don't think Sheriff's give ultimatums like that. Can you contact the prosecutor's office? I work for a criminal attorney and where I'm from the police file the report and/or arrest you for a crime. The case is forwarded to the prosecutor's office and it's their decision to charge you or not.

You need to talk to an attorney and ask if this is on the up and up. Have him call the Sheriff. I'm telling you something stinks in all of this.

I called my local sheriff here (different from the sheriff who called me) and he said he understands why I was upset and if it was him he wouldn't want to give his dog up either...not for a million dollars...and he also said since I was wanting to resolve this he didn't understand why the other deputy was mentioning the criminal charges at all. He said if he was the deputy handling it he wouldn't do the criminal charges since it was something I was willing to resolve and he agreed that I should be allowed to keep my dog. He advised me to just let the other deputy know right away that I wanted to resolve the issue as quickly as possible.

So that is why I did. I called and asked the deputy if I could have a couple of days to figure out what I could do and he said he was off until Wednesday at 7 am and that is why he gave me until Wednesday. He said worse case scenario I lose my dog. And I started crying and said I loved my dog and that I didn't want to lose her or go to jail and he kind of chuckled and said he didn't think I would see the inside of a jail cell. But then he said he didn't really want to send the case through and have criminal charges against me, but that he would have to if I didn't resolve it. And he claims the NSF is straight from the Bank and that it is the Bank that sent it to him, not the storeowner, but he has already talked to the store owner and he mentioned both the store owner and the breeder by first names in a familiar tone like he knows them both personally.

Cheska's Bella · 01-26-2007, 12:52 PM

Glad you have a happy ending!!!

Like others are saying, be cautious! This sounds very fishy. I worked in banking (some of the years in the ACH/Check clearing Dept) for almost 10 years, and I've never heard of a situation like that!

Shadow · 01-26-2007, 01:02 PM

If the bank sent it then the bank paid on it, right? I would think so. The bank doesn't take any sctions unless they are out the money. I think your breeder got paid and that is why they haven't contacted you.

I Love Bailey · 01-26-2007, 01:21 PM

One of my best girlfriends is a commander on the Sheriff's dept, I called her really quick and she said they usually don't get involved in cases like this.
She said the bank does not send them that kind of information. She said to go through your local sheriffs office and start a file there with all your documentation.
She then said to go with your husband or friend to see the sheriff who has been calling you and get copies of all his documentation. She said she would recommend going to the store and talking to them in person also and get copies of what they have.Do this with the breeder also. She said she has never heard of a straight transaction being treated as this one has been handled. She also thinks something is fishy...make sure you have your credit card company change credit card info and follow this through...something is not right...I feel your being set up for a scam of some sort!

RoxyJosMom · 01-26-2007, 02:48 PM

Is it possible that when the check was taken from you the friend's pet store to be "verified" that a copy was made or at least all the information taken on the check taken down? With that infor, a new check could be made and used. That's the only way the sheriff could have a "copy" of the NSF check. Something is very wrong and I think you should dig out your bank statements and credit card statements that you have since the purchase of Maddie. Go over them very carefully. Can you call the # on your CC to get a recording of all purchases? You need to investigate this thoroughly from every possible angle. Try to put yourself in a thief's shoes (I know it's hard if you don't have a mind for that kind of thing), but it's pretty easy to get away with stealing from someone if they aren't on top of things. I don't know how old you are, but if you are young, you are instantly prey for the criminals and identity thiefs. And if you get a group involved, like it seems you have, then you are going to need help. Do you have legal aid available to you? Check with your courthouse or welfare system. I hope who ever is responsible for causing you and your family all this torment gets what is coming to them. And thank you "Special Angel" for helping sweet little Maddie stay right where she belongs.

LunasMomma · 01-26-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Willow

I am confused by it all too. We don't know how they have a copy of a check with NSF and neither does the cc company. We talked them about upping the credit limit, but we have to wait until they unfreeze the account. The cc company thinks someone was trying to scam us.

I have asked them if I can make payments on Maddie but they want me to return her and let them hold her until the payments are complete.

Sweetie, this sounds like an out and out scam to me. Are you 100% positive that you spoke with a REAL sherrif/cop? It could have been a friend of theirs. This whole thing smells to high heaven, and I'd certainly get someone else involved. You have a RECEIPT! OMG I am so sorry for you, I hope that this can all be worked out without you having to return the dog

LunasMomma · 01-26-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Willow

I called my local sheriff here (different from the sheriff who called me) and he said he understands why I was upset and if it was him he wouldn't want to give his dog up either...not for a million dollars...and he also said since I was wanting to resolve this he didn't understand why the other deputy was mentioning the criminal charges at all. He said if he was the deputy handling it he wouldn't do the criminal charges since it was something I was willing to resolve and he agreed that I should be allowed to keep my dog. He advised me to just let the other deputy know right away that I wanted to resolve the issue as quickly as possible.

So that is why I did. I called and asked the deputy if I could have a couple of days to figure out what I could do and he said he was off until Wednesday at 7 am and that is why he gave me until Wednesday. He said worse case scenario I lose my dog. And I started crying and said I loved my dog and that I didn't want to lose her or go to jail and he kind of chuckled and said he didn't think I would see the inside of a jail cell. But then he said he didn't really want to send the case through and have criminal charges against me, but that he would have to if I didn't resolve it. And he claims the NSF is straight from the Bank and that it is the Bank that sent it to him, not the storeowner, but he has already talked to the store owner and he mentioned both the store owner and the breeder by first names in a familiar tone like he knows them both personally.

The more I read, the more this just SMELLS. Get a third party involved. FBI, anybody. By the way, sherrifs don't call you on the phone about stuff like this, they serve you with a notice, in person, with so many days to clear up the matter (usually 10 days). Sounds like someone is trying to get paid twice, or re-sell your baby

Amber_lv · 01-26-2007, 04:39 PM

OK WAIT FOR A MIN BEFORE YOU PAY ANYTHING OKask for the phone # to the bank that sent them the copy of the check call the bank and ask questions about this check if the bank can't verify this then do not give them money this is really begining to get way to fishy please i really think you are being scammedPLEASE CALL THAT BANK FIRST

01-26-2007, 12:41 PM	#52
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	I LOVE THREADS LIKE THIS WITH HAPPY ENDINGS !!!!!!!!!!!! Girl - you keep trying to find out what happened and all the best to you !! I just love the people here - you got such great advise and everyone just jumped in with ideas ....Way to go YT people !! __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

01-26-2007, 01:21 PM	#56
I Love Bailey I Love Angel too! Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 1,339	One of my best girlfriends is a commander on the Sheriff's dept, I called her really quick and she said they usually don't get involved in cases like this. She said the bank does not send them that kind of information. She said to go through your local sheriffs office and start a file there with all your documentation. She then said to go with your husband or friend to see the sheriff who has been calling you and get copies of all his documentation. She said she would recommend going to the store and talking to them in person also and get copies of what they have.Do this with the breeder also. She said she has never heard of a straight transaction being treated as this one has been handled. She also thinks something is fishy...make sure you have your credit card company change credit card info and follow this through...something is not right...I feel your being set up for a scam of some sort! __________________ Michele & Bailey Angel 7/06-9/12

01-26-2007, 02:48 PM	#57
RoxyJosMom Love The Verminator! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ny Posts: 4,282	Is it possible that when the check was taken from you the friend's pet store to be "verified" that a copy was made or at least all the information taken on the check taken down? With that infor, a new check could be made and used. That's the only way the sheriff could have a "copy" of the NSF check. Something is very wrong and I think you should dig out your bank statements and credit card statements that you have since the purchase of Maddie. Go over them very carefully. Can you call the # on your CC to get a recording of all purchases? You need to investigate this thoroughly from every possible angle. Try to put yourself in a thief's shoes (I know it's hard if you don't have a mind for that kind of thing), but it's pretty easy to get away with stealing from someone if they aren't on top of things. I don't know how old you are, but if you are young, you are instantly prey for the criminals and identity thiefs. And if you get a group involved, like it seems you have, then you are going to need help. Do you have legal aid available to you? Check with your courthouse or welfare system. I hope who ever is responsible for causing you and your family all this torment gets what is coming to them. And thank you "Special Angel" for helping sweet little Maddie stay right where she belongs. __________________ Roxy loves Alphy Remi loves Millie [COLOR="Purple"]Mom to RoxyJo & Remington , Fozzy Bear & Chloe

01-26-2007, 04:39 PM	#60
Amber_lv Peeka Boo I See You! Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Salt Lake Posts: 7,161 Blog Entries: 3	OK WAIT FOR A MIN BEFORE YOU PAY ANYTHING OKask for the phone # to the bank that sent them the copy of the check call the bank and ask questions about this check if the bank can't verify this then do not give them money this is really begining to get way to fishy please i really think you are being scammedPLEASE CALL THAT BANK FIRST __________________ Peeka-Boo-Daisy-Designs <---Click Here Peeka's MyspaceDaisy's Myspace Peeka's Dogster

01-26-2007, 12:24 PM	#46
Shadow No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Posts: 5,368	Oh Happy day!!! Glad things are working out,see I told ya!

01-26-2007, 12:37 PM	#51
ARCHIE No Longer A Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 16,218	Thank you special angel for helping Willow and family. I do hope you can get some kind of legal assistance because something stinks here! Good luck to you and give Maddie a hug from Buddy. I can't imagine having to give your baby away! What a nightmare. Carol & Buddy

01-26-2007, 12:52 PM	#54
Cheska's Bella YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 681	Glad you have a happy ending!!! Like others are saying, be cautious! This sounds very fishy. I worked in banking (some of the years in the ACH/Check clearing Dept) for almost 10 years, and I've never heard of a situation like that!

01-26-2007, 01:02 PM	#55
Shadow No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Posts: 5,368	If the bank sent it then the bank paid on it, right? I would think so. The bank doesn't take any sctions unless they are out the money. I think your breeder got paid and that is why they haven't contacted you.