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BabyFidgette · 11-02-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dena

I dont know how taht works.. but i pay them 25, they investigate, then they would make him pay what he owes me, which is 27.

You know what? You might as well do it!!! Yeah, you're still out...but you're at a loss anyway! Right? At least he won't have the money!!

But...if he provides a tracking number (which I doubt) will you then have to pay the $25?

Dena · 11-02-2006, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyFidgette

You know what? You might as well do it!!! Yeah, you're still out...but you're at a loss anyway! Right? At least he won't have the money!!

But...if he provides a tracking number (which I doubt) will you then have to pay the $25?

LoL! yeah, you can't escalate the dispute to have paypal investigate till 60 days after, and it's only beenlike 40something. But if he said he sent them on the 30th, and i get it, then ill drop the dispute, if not.. then im going to dispute it, cause its worth it to me to make him pay the $27 and paypal take out the 25, and i get $2.. hehe, worth it to me, rather than him keeping it.

BabyFidgette · 11-02-2006, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dena

LoL! yeah, you can't escalate the dispute to have paypal investigate till 60 days after, and it's only beenlike 40something. But if he said he sent them on the 30th, and i get it, then ill drop the dispute, if not.. then im going to dispute it, cause its worth it to me to make him pay the $27 and paypal take out the 25, and i get $2.. hehe, worth it to me, rather than him keeping it.

You go girl!! Get your 2 bucks, and take it all away from him!!!

LOLOL

bettyeanne · 11-02-2006, 05:35 PM

Things like this is exactly why I dispise PayPal!! They are sooo difficult ... don't understand why sellers wouldn't prefer Visa Debit/Credit. They would immediately get their $$$ and it's certainly simpler for the buyer! Good luck!

Gracie2006 · 11-02-2006, 05:39 PM

Using safe harbor through Ebay should get you some assistance. You should not have to pay to get this resolved. Take him to small claims court if you haved to!

Rae Rae · 11-02-2006, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dena

no ebay doesnt charge.. paypal does, since i paid him throught paypal

his account already got suspended
me and 4 others right after eachother left terrible feedback.. but only after i paid and everything did this all happen

Sounds like he planned to be like this. Worked up really great feedback, then began scamming. Most people woudn't assume someone with good feedback would scam them. I don't blame you for purchasing from him, I think most people would've purchased from him.

FlDebra · 11-03-2006, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dena

He has already been suspended but these are his ebay names

ohhellofrankie
love_is_a_fist

His paypal is Halostoptime@aim.com

Did you use this Dispute resolution through ebay itself? http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...rCreateDispute

They were very quick to help me the one time I did not receive an item within a month. What was weird though, they sent money back to my email account and then I wound up receiving the item like 2 days later! I had to go through more trouble to give the money back than I did to receive it. But I did get it all straightened out and it gave me trust in ebay.

I checked and it says you can use it if you have not received an item 10-60 days after purchase.

I think that 2nd ebay name was a red flag not to do business with him -- but then everything looks clearer in hindsight.

makemepretty · 11-03-2006, 04:02 AM

Ebay charges $25 for a dispute, paypal never used to(unless they just recently changed it). In fact, they will cover some items up to $1,000.

ONLY use a CC to pay with paypal and NEVER use your available funds in there(withdraw them and use a cc). After worrying about not receiving a $2,000 item I bought I read everything on their site. Unless it specifically says it is covered up to $1,000 on the auction... it's not covered at all. You only have 30 days to do a chargeback on their site. Yes, a credit card will protect you, paypal and ebay will not. Lucky for me the seller was honest and I received my item but I about had a heart attack for a day. I always thought paypal was secure but it's not.

Grayson's mom · 11-03-2006, 04:18 AM

http://www.toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs...rn=Received+by

Sounds like he has been doing this since 04

I couldn't pull up anything on love_is_a_fist it said invalid ebay id? is it spelled right?

The thing with paypal and disputes is if the seller has money in his account you will get your money back if not his account will be frozen and you will get it back once the seller puts money back into that account, I think that is how it works! good luck and i would fight even if it just $3.00 you are owed!

Good luck let us know how it goes!!

sharong · 11-03-2006, 04:32 AM

About four months ago I went through the same thing. I won an auction on ebay and never received the items. I went through the emails with no replies, I even called the telephone number and talked to the girls mother twice but nothing worked. I eventually filed a dispute with my credit card whom I have set up with paypal. I forget the length of time that she had to respond but she never did and I was credited the amount back by my credit card company. No fees were involved.

It's such a shame when certain people have to screw up and give ebay a bad name. Out of about two hundred auctions, that was the only problem I had.

My daughter has actually called a seller before and threatened them with court and then she received the item. You should have a contact phone number if you received an invoice. Although it doesn't appear that even a phone call to him would help.

Good Luck!

yorkieangel · 11-03-2006, 04:35 AM

SIGHHHHHHHHHH
One of the reasons I DON't Ebay anymore is the LAZY non-existant customer service. They rarely do anythng about anything. I once bought a quilt described at excellent condition and it arrived full of large holes and rips. I notified ebay and they said they asked the seller and she said the quilt was in excellent condition when she sent it and I was crazy. Well that was that. Ebay said since SHE said it was fine then it was fine. I asked them what would be my purpose of ripping up a quilt and they ignored me!!!!!

luvdorkyyorkies · 11-03-2006, 04:54 AM

I just had a similair experience with Ebay. My first one, of never recieivng an item and Ive had hundreds of transactions in the past.
I bought my little girl a coat, the total was only around 21.00. I paid by CC immediately. I bought several things so I hadnt noticed it had been 9 days since I made payment. I recieved an email from the seller stating she forgot to send it out, and would sent it tommorrow. I said not a problem. 3 weeks later I still never recieved the coat. SO I emailed her, she left me a message saying she was at her mothers and would check her mail receipts when she got home and call Monday. I said ok. A week later still no contact. So I emailed her and asked for proof of the item being sent by a receipt from the post office. I said if you sent it, I dont want to leave a negative if its the post offices fault.
She emailed me back and told me I was very rude (????????) and if I leave a negative, she will leave one too. I asked her what she would leave a negative for me for........paying immediately??
Anyway I went ahead and filed with paypal, but it didnt cost anything. They said it should be resolved in 30days. Last time I checked the resolution site it said refund initiated.

Dena · 11-03-2006, 06:20 AM

Well, heres what i think the problem is.

The seller never had any sort of insurance on it. Plus, since i paid through paypal, I can't open a dispute through ebay. I have to do it through paypal.. which i have done.. but to escalate it to the point where they force the seller to pay me a refund, you have to pay $25 for paypal to investigate, and they will investigate (doesnt mean i get a refund, they just look into it).. then if they decide that he does owe me the money, then they make him give me a refund.

I know it's so confusing.
Someone asked about his ebay name.. one is inactive and one is suspended.

He said he sent the item.. so we'll see if I get it

BabyFidgette · 11-03-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dena

Well, heres what i think the problem is.

The seller never had any sort of insurance on it. Plus, since i paid through paypal, I can't open a dispute through ebay. I have to do it through paypal.. which i have done.. but to escalate it to the point where they force the seller to pay me a refund, you have to pay $25 for paypal to investigate, and they will investigate (doesnt mean i get a refund, they just look into it).. then if they decide that he does owe me the money, then they make him give me a refund.

I know it's so confusing.
Someone asked about his ebay name.. one is inactive and one is suspended.

He said he sent the item.. so we'll see if I get it

Ever want to call Paypal or Ebay, but can't find their number? Well, it's hidden to the public, but some people actually have it. I found it on the Internet a few years back (just got it again for ya) when I was having a problem with a buyer from Canada. Here are their numbers in case you want to call:

e-Bay, Inc.
408-376-7400
Toll Free: 800-322-9266
And another one: 888-749-3229

PayPal
1-888-221-1161
or 402-935-2050

http://clicheideas.com/amazon.htm

yorkieusa · 11-04-2006, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dena

Well, heres what i think the problem is.

The seller never had any sort of insurance on it. Plus, since i paid through paypal, I can't open a dispute through ebay. I have to do it through paypal.. which i have done.. but to escalate it to the point where they force the seller to pay me a refund, you have to pay $25 for paypal to investigate, and they will investigate (doesnt mean i get a refund, they just look into it).. then if they decide that he does owe me the money, then they make him give me a refund.

I know it's so confusing.
Someone asked about his ebay name.. one is inactive and one is suspended.

He said he sent the item.. so we'll see if I get it

Sorry that happened, Dena.

Did everyone know that paypal is an ebay company? I try to avoid ebay, even though I look around there occasionally. I don't have the time for disputes, so I just try the avoidance route.

11-02-2006, 05:35 PM	#34
bettyeanne Donating YT 7000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Alabama, etc. Posts: 9,031	Things like this is exactly why I dispise PayPal!! They are sooo difficult ... don't understand why sellers wouldn't prefer Visa Debit/Credit. They would immediately get their $$$ and it's certainly simpler for the buyer! Good luck! __________________ Toto's Mom - http://www.dogster.com/?206581 Yorkie Rescue Colorado - http://www.yorkierescuecolorado.com/ "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." -- Albert Einstein

11-02-2006, 05:39 PM	#35
Gracie2006 Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sequim, Wa Posts: 4,541	Using safe harbor through Ebay should get you some assistance. You should not have to pay to get this resolved. Take him to small claims court if you haved to! __________________ Gracie loves Bailey. Holly loves Tucker. Proud member of the YT Gracie Girls.

11-03-2006, 04:02 AM	#38
makemepretty YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Middleville Posts: 933	Ebay charges $25 for a dispute, paypal never used to(unless they just recently changed it). In fact, they will cover some items up to $1,000. ONLY use a CC to pay with paypal and NEVER use your available funds in there(withdraw them and use a cc). After worrying about not receiving a $2,000 item I bought I read everything on their site. Unless it specifically says it is covered up to $1,000 on the auction... it's not covered at all. You only have 30 days to do a chargeback on their site. Yes, a credit card will protect you, paypal and ebay will not. Lucky for me the seller was honest and I received my item but I about had a heart attack for a day. I always thought paypal was secure but it's not. __________________ http://www.dogster.com/pet_page.php?j=t&i=369717

11-03-2006, 04:18 AM	#39
Grayson's mom Mommy's Little Boo Boo Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Virgina Posts: 3,734	http://www.toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs...rn=Received+by Sounds like he has been doing this since 04 I couldn't pull up anything on love_is_a_fist it said invalid ebay id? is it spelled right? The thing with paypal and disputes is if the seller has money in his account you will get your money back if not his account will be frozen and you will get it back once the seller puts money back into that account, I think that is how it works! good luck and i would fight even if it just $3.00 you are owed! Good luck let us know how it goes!! __________________ Proud mom to Grayson Abby Dusty Pepper Ryan Gabriel and of course me Diane Grayson loves Tia

11-03-2006, 04:35 AM	#41
yorkieangel Rescue Angel Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: md Posts: 1,530	SIGHHHHHHHHHH One of the reasons I DON't Ebay anymore is the LAZY non-existant customer service. They rarely do anythng about anything. I once bought a quilt described at excellent condition and it arrived full of large holes and rips. I notified ebay and they said they asked the seller and she said the quilt was in excellent condition when she sent it and I was crazy. Well that was that. Ebay said since SHE said it was fine then it was fine. I asked them what would be my purpose of ripping up a quilt and they ignored me!!!!! __________________ Yorkieangel

11-03-2006, 04:32 AM	#40
sharong Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 166	About four months ago I went through the same thing. I won an auction on ebay and never received the items. I went through the emails with no replies, I even called the telephone number and talked to the girls mother twice but nothing worked. I eventually filed a dispute with my credit card whom I have set up with paypal. I forget the length of time that she had to respond but she never did and I was credited the amount back by my credit card company. No fees were involved. It's such a shame when certain people have to screw up and give ebay a bad name. Out of about two hundred auctions, that was the only problem I had. My daughter has actually called a seller before and threatened them with court and then she received the item. You should have a contact phone number if you received an invoice. Although it doesn't appear that even a phone call to him would help. Good Luck!

11-03-2006, 04:54 AM	#42
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	I just had a similair experience with Ebay. My first one, of never recieivng an item and Ive had hundreds of transactions in the past. I bought my little girl a coat, the total was only around 21.00. I paid by CC immediately. I bought several things so I hadnt noticed it had been 9 days since I made payment. I recieved an email from the seller stating she forgot to send it out, and would sent it tommorrow. I said not a problem. 3 weeks later I still never recieved the coat. SO I emailed her, she left me a message saying she was at her mothers and would check her mail receipts when she got home and call Monday. I said ok. A week later still no contact. So I emailed her and asked for proof of the item being sent by a receipt from the post office. I said if you sent it, I dont want to leave a negative if its the post offices fault. She emailed me back and told me I was very rude (????????) and if I leave a negative, she will leave one too. I asked her what she would leave a negative for me for........paying immediately?? Anyway I went ahead and filed with paypal, but it didnt cost anything. They said it should be resolved in 30days. Last time I checked the resolution site it said refund initiated.

11-03-2006, 06:20 AM	#43
Dena No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,424	Well, heres what i think the problem is. The seller never had any sort of insurance on it. Plus, since i paid through paypal, I can't open a dispute through ebay. I have to do it through paypal.. which i have done.. but to escalate it to the point where they force the seller to pay me a refund, you have to pay $25 for paypal to investigate, and they will investigate (doesnt mean i get a refund, they just look into it).. then if they decide that he does owe me the money, then they make him give me a refund. I know it's so confusing. Someone asked about his ebay name.. one is inactive and one is suspended. He said he sent the item.. so we'll see if I get it