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Old 05-28-2006, 12:21 PM   #16
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wow this really sucks since i got lola from Petland! but she seems healthy and i woulndt assume that ALL the pups from Petland are bad, but we did pay alot!
Well, we're not saying that all pups from Petland are "bad," we're just saying that they've probably grown up in bad conditions.
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Old 05-28-2006, 02:14 PM   #17
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Well, we're not saying that all pups from Petland are "bad," we're just saying that they've probably grown up in bad conditions.
I agree, Im not saying that you cant get a wonderful dog from a petstore. I absolutely loved my Min Pin and I had him for 2 years before I had to find him a new home. BUt like I said, he was so large (and not a bit overweight) that I am wondering if he was even pure breed, and he had a bad temperment which I am not sure if thats because he came from bad breeding or what but I paid $1000 for him and I COULD have gone to a breeder and paid $500-$600 and I could have known more about my dog, its parents, its history and all that good stuff. But I didnt know that at the time. SO that is why I would prefer to get a dog directly from a breeder instead of a petstore
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Old 05-28-2006, 03:49 PM   #18
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WOW....thanks for the stories everyone. My bf is calling tomarrow to get his deposit back. All of these stories on here are enough for me to say NO to this store, no need to waste my time doing further research.

The girl that was helping us there yesterday was telling me about her dogs, and they all had numerous problems, I dont understand how she can even afford the vetbill, I mean she works at a pet store, and from a retail store income alone I know the vetbills wouldnt be able to be afforded. But anyways, I bet that she got all of her dogs from her store she works at. These dogs weren't even older, they were still young.

So anyways, now I'm going to go and find a breeder, and help my bf out. I feel bad cuz he was doing this on his own for me, and then we find all this stuff out. I mean it's not his fault cuz he never baught dogs before, except one from a newspaper ad. But I"m going to help him, and hopefully we'll have our new furbaby soon
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I'm glad you are doing your research! Try Stardust Yorkies.
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Petland has a very bad reputation. Please go t a breeder. I would be happy to go with you to look at puppies since we both live in Gurnee.

Where did you get your Yorkie from? Im not sure when I'll be going around to check our breeders, but yeah if you could go w/ me that'd be great, make sure i'm not getting ripped off or anything.
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I got her from a breeder in Rockland Il a 3 hour drive from here. In a couple of weeks there is a dog show at the Lake county fairgrounds and I can find out what time the Yorkies are showing and you can talk to good breeders there.
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I got her from a breeder in Rockland Il a 3 hour drive from here. In a couple of weeks there is a dog show at the Lake county fairgrounds and I can find out what time the Yorkies are showing and you can talk to good breeders there.
Can you give me the info on that?
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I got her from a breeder in Rockland Il a 3 hour drive from here. In a couple of weeks there is a dog show at the Lake county fairgrounds and I can find out what time the Yorkies are showing and you can talk to good breeders there.
I'd love to know more about this too.
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Please don't support pet stores of any kind. They all get their puppies from mills and they just don't care. Those dogs could be coming from anywhere with all sorts of problems and those prices sound ridiculous. Every time someone buys from a pet store they're perpetuating this misery. Rather invest your time in doing a lot of research and finding a good breeder who loves the breed and will give you a happy, healthy, wonderful companion. I've seen too many stories on this forum about people buying from pet stores and then dealing with the absolute heartbreak of a sick and dying puppy just a few weeks later. Just don't do it - for their sake and yours

That poor little Yorkie you mentioned - I wonder what's going to happen to her
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Please don't support pet stores of any kind. They all get their puppies from mills and they just don't care.
I think thats a little harsh ... not ALL pet stores buy there puppies from Puppy Mills and don't care.

However, I appreciate the sentiments and I would agree that the major big stores will in all likely hood be buying from mills.

I have a family friend who runs a pet store, just a one store operation, and he did a tour with his "puppy broker" of some of the mills and the conditions the dogs were in before he decided which breeders he would buy off and which he wouldn't. (he obviously choose not to buy from the mills).

However, regardless ... I'd still recommend buying from a breeder direct, someone who's set up you can visit and who is interested in if you will make a good parent for the puppy and not just that you can afford the price.
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I don't think it's that harsh to be honest. The words 'broker', 'mill', 'pet store' all equate to something deeply suspicious in my mind. I sincerely doubt that any business that deals in selling puppies will rely on a handful of breeders - that doesn't make economic sense. And apart from all things being equal - how would a person know for sure? A quick read around this forum will show that plenty of people bought sick and dying puppies for a fortune from stores that claimed they came from a 'local breeder'. I'm afraid I just can't agree that there is any such thing as a 'good' pet store. Sorry
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I appreciate as a animal lover you have concerns and this does you credit. I agree that everyone should seriously look into any store / person who is trying to sell you animal and I agree that many of the chain stores will not have animal welfare as a priority.

But I know someone who owns a store, I know him, I know his thoughts on the subject and I know he makes every effort to ensure his puppies come from a good source, he only buys puppies from in state, and has passed on breeder information to the purchaser and I have to say if *I* know one person who makes an effort than I can imagine there are other pet store owners out there that do the same.

I feel bad for the guy because he's been vandalized and abused for selling animals (which has put the animals in extreme danger) because of sweeping statements like "all pet stores buy puppies from mills".

I just think we have to be careful when using generalisations is all.
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Last year my sister bought a chihauhau from there. I told her not to do it but she did it anyway because it was cute and she was able to finance it through the store. The selling price was triple what they went for in the paper but she didn't have a lump sum to make the purchase from the paper.Needless to say it did not turn out well. She brought the pup over to my home and it was so small, probably less than 2lbs., and it just slept. We thought it was because it was a pup.She took it to a vet and it was placed on iv's and then died. The vet said it was advanced parvo. She only had the pup about two or three weeks. She went back to the store and told the manager what had happened and he pretty much said tuff and your still responsible for the bill and offered no compensation. She said I'll see you in court and she did, and she didn't have to say a word. The judge saw her paperwork and reamed the guy out and she didn't have to pay. That store is no longer in business. It's to bad that pup had to suffer like that.

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Old 05-30-2006, 04:21 AM   #29
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I've been into tons of petstores, and they all say the same thing: We don't get our dogs from puppymills. Okay...then which petstores do? And do you really think they would have a sign that says: We sell puppymill babies? They get their puppies from brokers, who probably get their puppies from a mill. So "technically," no, they don't buy them from mills, they buy them from brokers. That's how they get around the technicalities.
You're right - Hunte Corp is the BIGGEST BROKER in the country and a supplier of Puppy Mill puppies to Pet Stores....Petland is theiry Biggest Customer - I agree that ALL pet stores may not use a Mill - but the vast MAJORITY do - I totally agree - do NOT Buy From a Pet Store - there is no way to single out the 'good' from the 'bad'

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WOW....thanks for the stories everyone. My bf is calling tomarrow to get his deposit back. All of these stories on here are enough for me to say NO to this store, no need to waste my time doing further research.

The girl that was helping us there yesterday was telling me about her dogs, and they all had numerous problems, I dont understand how she can even afford the vetbill, I mean she works at a pet store,)
Good I'm glad you are not buying from them, I hope your bf told them exactly why he is not buying and wants his money back.. the girl that works there is probably clueless as most people are when it comes to where the dogs come from maybe print her out some articles on the illness and defects,and drop the off to her, next time. I'm sure it would be enlightening to her..
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