Social Distancing 2020

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Originally Posted by kjc

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It helped!

[Captainzing]

Lol

I can’t do it here
I’m more of a skull face

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by matese

I saw on the news where ppl in their 20"s health nuts feel they are safe because they are health conscious, they were told they could still this
COVID , have no symptoms, not get sick but could still pass it on to ppl they come into contact with. I forget what state it was wants ppl that do not have to go out stay home, you were allowed to go out if you had to go to work, are a caregiver, watched children and other things of this nature. If ppl were just out and strolling about they would institute a new law and arrest those that were not following the stay at home policy. It's going to have to come down to that for ppl to understand what stay home means.
As careful as I have been, last Monday I had catastrophic flood in my house, I have been subjected to many strangers coming into my house to rid it of water, some floors and walls have to be removed and new installed, new installation put in, lots of plumbing to be done. When they leave I wipe everything down with alcohol. Since there are no hand sanitizers to be found I was using alcohol on baby wipes when I did have to go out and had to touch things, I also wore latex gloves. I had 2 bottles of alcohol and felt safe using that, "had" enough until this buying frenzy was over. I have used one bottle since the flooding and the contractors have not started the repairs.
I do have hydrogen peroxide to fall back on because I will use that last bottle of alcohol. Just ticks me off big time I was taking all precautions then this.......

Last night after 9:20 PM, flushed the toilet and it absolutely flooded the hall bathroom and started running down the hall! Couldn't get the still-new turn-off to even move, let alone turn the water to the toilet tank off! Opened the top, tried grabbing the ball thing and pushing it down, displaced the water dispenser so that it was pouring water right over the tank edge onto the floor! Just about panicked, finally it stopped as I tried to replace things as they were, don't know why.

Angel neighbor couple and their oldest daughter came over when I called to see if they had a shop vac or knew of a quick way to get the 1+ standing water up from the floor, as I had piled ALL of my towels and many hand towels by the door and mounded them up to try to block/absorb water the bathroom under the door, ran out and placed more towels on other side. While Lu and her sweet daughter began wringing the towels out in the bathtub and resoaking them with free-standing water and Gabe ran back for his yard drain snake, I got all my emergency flashlights. I held the lights for him in the yard as he handforced his snake into my outside drainpipe and saw that when he removed the cap from my outside drain line to the sewer in the alley' the whole area had flooded with standing, muddy water.

Why is it my plumbing only goes haywire after 9:00 PM, especially during holidays, weekends and other horribly inconvenient or especially bad times!

Roto Rooter had a guy on the way when Gabe told me the city will come out 24/7 and clean out the drain pipe from the house to the alley as part of our water services, no extra charge. I had always paid through the nose for this type service through Roto Rooter over the years and couldn't believe it. Pete, another neighbor down the street, called to see what was going on, told me the same thing.

Called Roto Rooter, cancelled the call and called the City's
Water Dept. emergency number and almost within the hour my big drain had been cleared of roots by the city workers running their huge electrical snake! They arrived in two huge trucks, practically blocking our whole street.

By the time my neighbors and the workers left, the bathroom was dry, ready for cleaning and disinfecting and Lu and Jessica had gotten all the water up and had placed all the wet towels in my washing machine; the workers had cleaned up, relocked the back gate lock and left. Got out my checkbook, willing to write all of those amazing people who showed up to help me generous checks before they left and no one would take any money! In fact, Gabe told me they had a big box of masks and gloves and hand disinfectant and TP anytime I needed them to just ask and he'd be over with whatever, and asked if I had enough food, fresh produce, milk, medicines, etc. (He's a wonderful chef.) Said anytime I need anything, just call, we are neighbors and we always help each other! I was tearing up, thanking and rethanking them while trying to stay 6 ft. away!

Even though the toilets were all flushing normally last night, I was just too scared to trust the just-cleared yard drain and shower drain before bed to shower or wash the towels last night so, yuck, yuck, yuck, washed myself as best I could and waited until early this morning to do both when the shower and the washing machine drains both worked just fine, thank God. Oh that shower felt extra good. Towels, etc., all washed and dried now. Now time to wash my sheets, nightie things, etc., I slept in without my usual shower before bed. But was so tired and, excuse the pun, drained, I slept like a log. Got up and disinfected everything we all touched last night before I even had my coffee.

Just can't believe all the things that went wrong last night and today are back to normal again and am not owing a huge credit card bill for the after-hours plumbing! Needless to say, will be buying a few dinners and gifts for my precious neighbors and their 3 kids and lauding our Water Department workers on Twitter!

[Captainzing]

Always nice to read something positive

[matese]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Last night after 9:20 PM, flushed the toilet and it absolutely flooded the hall bathroom and started running down the hall! Couldn't get the still-new turn-off to even move, let alone turn the water to the toilet tank off! Opened the top, tried grabbing the ball thing and pushing it down, displaced the water dispenser so that it was pouring water right over the tank edge onto the floor! Just about panicked, finally it stopped as I tried to replace things as they were, don't know why.

Angel neighbor couple and their oldest daughter came over when I called to see if they had a shop vac or knew of a quick way to get the 1+ standing water up from the floor, as I had piled ALL of my towels and many hand towels by the door and mounded them up to try to block/absorb water the bathroom under the door, ran out and placed more towels on other side. While Lu and her sweet daughter began wringing the towels out in the bathtub and resoaking them with free-standing water and Gabe ran back for his yard drain snake, I got all my emergency flashlights. I held the lights for him in the yard as he handforced his snake into my outside drainpipe and saw that when he removed the cap from my outside drain line to the sewer in the alley' the whole area had flooded with standing, muddy water.

Why is it my plumbing only goes haywire after 9:00 PM, especially during holidays, weekends and other horribly inconvenient or especially bad times!

Roto Rooter had a guy on the way when Gabe told me the city will come out 24/7 and clean out the drain pipe from the house to the alley as part of our water services, no extra charge. I had always paid through the nose for this type service through Roto Rooter over the years and couldn't believe it. Pete, another neighbor down the street, called to see what was going on, told me the same thing.

Called Roto Rooter, cancelled the call and called the City's
Water Dept. emergency number and almost within the hour my big drain had been cleared of roots by the city workers running their huge electrical snake! They arrived in two huge trucks, practically blocking our whole street.

By the time my neighbors and the workers left, the bathroom was dry, ready for cleaning and disinfecting and Lu and Jessica had gotten all the water up and had placed all the wet towels in my washing machine; the workers had cleaned up, relocked the back gate lock and left. Got out my checkbook, willing to write all of those amazing people who showed up to help me generous checks before they left and no one would take any money! In fact, Gabe told me they had a big box of masks and gloves and hand disinfectant and TP anytime I needed them to just ask and he'd be over with whatever, and asked if I had enough food, fresh produce, milk, medicines, etc. (He's a wonderful chef.) Said anytime I need anything, just call, we are neighbors and we always help each other! I was tearing up, thanking and rethanking them while trying to stay 6 ft. away!

Even though the toilets were all flushing normally last night, I was just too scared to trust the just-cleared yard drain and shower drain before bed to shower or wash the towels last night so, yuck, yuck, yuck, washed myself as best I could and waited until early this morning to do both when the shower and the washing machine drains both worked just fine, thank God. Oh that shower felt extra good. Towels, etc., all washed and dried now. Now time to wash my sheets, nightie things, etc., I slept in without my usual shower before bed. But was so tired and, excuse the pun, drained, I slept like a log. Got up and disinfected everything we all touched last night before I even had my coffee.

Just can't believe all the things that went wrong last night and today are back to normal again and am not owing a huge credit card bill for the after-hours plumbing! Needless to say, will be buying a few dinners and gifts for my precious neighbors and their 3 kids and lauding our Water Department workers on Twitter!

You are a very lucky lady to have wonderful neighbors to help you. My flood was caused by Home Depot delivery men "trying" to install a new washing machine and broke the cold water pipe using excessive force to turn the cold water valve off. Two non english speaking men that fled in their truck while water was shooting out of this pipe like a yellowstone park geyser. In my panic I couldn't remember where the main shut off valve was, I ran to my nx door neighbor to ask for his help, he had a back injury but he did get another neighbor while I came back and used every towel, bed linen, blankets, clothing I could use sop up 3 inches of water in 4 rooms. Thankfully this happened at 12 noon, after the main valve was turned off I called my homeowners insurance who had a water mitigator team over in 2 hours. I was wringing out towels and bed linen in my bathtub, I had no washer or dryer both were disconnected because I had also bought a dryer when I bought the washer. No neighbor offered to help, these ppl keep to them selves. I had the water mitigator team here for one week with dehumidifiers and hot air circulating fans, linoleum, floors, walls were removed that day, $10,000. worth of water damage caused by two men that did not know what they were doing they fled without even offering to turn off the main valve. One and half weeks to replace walls, floors and repair broken water pipe. They just finished yesterday. 4 rooms, laundry room, utility room, walkin-in closet and master bathroom, 2 and 3 inches of water was in these rooms before the water mitigator got to my house. The mitigator supervisor took every item I used to sop up the water to a public laundry mat and had them all washed and dried for me. That was the only act of kindness I received and I was grateful for this mans help. 5 weeks with strangers in my house was most stressful with this virus going around.

Now, to get my house back in order

[Lisa and Pic]

Wow, what a nightmare, yorkietalkjilly! Also what lovely neighbors. So glad you could actually say, All's well that ends well.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Joan, what a horror story that would be any time but now, during a pandemic, where everybody could be a potential carrier, I cannot even imagine. What a strong woman you are to manage all of this and keep it together. Having workers more than even a half day in the house is extremely discomfiting and nerve-wracking to me. You've had weeks of it! Years back when my waterheater broke(of course, after 9:00 PM during July 4th weekend), our fire department came out and stopped the water to the tank, vacuumed up all the water, put out their big fans and that was a day. Later, insurance agent came, a plumber replaced the water heater and flooring was replaced in another day. Nothing like you've been through and I was a wreck! One lovely Christmas Eve, back yard drain backed up after everyone left and poor Roto-Rooter guy came out that night, putting a whole different spin on the season.

When Gabe and Lu first moved in, childless & just starting their jobs, family, etc., they were always friendly and sweet and as their family grew by 3 kids, while I was still working, every childbirth, Christmas and sometimes at Easter I would take over gifts for the kids and food, plus every free turkey we got at the grocery store for purchases over $99.00, etc., went to them or neighbor on the other side or across the street. After hip surgery when my son who stayed with me afterward had gone to work for a day, Lu ran me to the pharmacy to get Rx. refills, brought groceries over for me. I've always given Christmas presents to my closest neighbors and their small kids as long as I was working. They'd occas. give a present or bring over dinner, cookies, a cake, etc. Gabe has brought me many delicious dinners he's cooked, can do the most delicious meats, veggie dishes. Teenagers that get too loud with their bass music, etc. get a visit from me asking for lowered volume, but always with a sack of snacks in return for lowering the volume and occasionally, their parents send me back a cake or something via that very teen and those same teens wave and smile every time I see them.

When I was hospitalized unexpectedly B4 Christmas, the other next door neighbor took in my delivered packages as they arrived to keep any of the frequent passers by from taking them as this is a very busy street w/an elementary school at the end of it. It's always been a sweet neighborhood and we've been pretty interactive. Good, giving neighbors are a necessity down here.

[matese]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Joan, what a horror story that would be any time but now, during a pandemic, where everybody could be a potential carrier, I cannot even imagine. What a strong woman you are to manage all of this and keep it together. Having workers more than even a half day in the house is extremely discomfiting and nerve-wracking to me. You've had weeks of it! Years back when my waterheater broke(of course, after 9:00 PM during July 4th weekend), our fire department came out and stopped the water to the tank, vacuumed up all the water, put out their big fans and that was a day. Later, insurance agent came, a plumber replaced the water heater and flooring was replaced in another day. Nothing like you've been through and I was a wreck! One lovely Christmas Eve, back yard drain backed up after everyone left and poor Roto-Rooter guy came out that night, putting a whole different spin on the season.

When Gabe and Lu first moved in, childless & just starting their jobs, family, etc., they were always friendly and sweet and as their family grew by 3 kids, while I was still working, every childbirth, Christmas and sometimes at Easter I would take over gifts for the kids and food, plus every free turkey we got at the grocery store for purchases over $99.00, etc., went to them or neighbor on the other side or across the street. After hip surgery when my son who stayed with me afterward had gone to work for a day, Lu ran me to the pharmacy to get Rx. refills, brought groceries over for me. I've always given Christmas presents to my closest neighbors and their small kids as long as I was working. They'd occas. give a present or bring over dinner, cookies, a cake, etc. Gabe has brought me many delicious dinners he's cooked, can do the most delicious meats, veggie dishes. Teenagers that get too loud with their bass music, etc. get a visit from me asking for lowered volume, but always with a sack of snacks in return for lowering the volume and occasionally, their parents send me back a cake or something via that very teen and those same teens wave and smile every time I see them.

When I was hospitalized unexpectedly B4 Christmas, the other next door neighbor took in my delivered packages as they arrived to keep any of the frequent passers by from taking them as this is a very busy street w/an elementary school at the end of it. It's always been a sweet neighborhood and we've been pretty interactive. Good, giving neighbors are a necessity down here.

You are very lucky to have such caring neighbors. In all honesty I don't know how I got through it. I had to sleep on my sofa which has recliners at each end for 3 weeks, not a comfy sofa, Cody sleeps under the blankies with me, now he was sleeping at the end of the sofa, he was waking me at 1:30, 3:30AM to potty which he has never done, I guessed he was cold and reason he was waking up at odd hours. Never once did I shed a tear seeing my house being torn apart. I am on a mountain, no gas on the mountain, we have to use propane. My gas dryer had to be converted to propane by my propane company. April 1st I got my 2nd delivery of new appliances, I called my propane company to send someone over to install the converter kit and hook it up. I was told they are on emergency calls only, you have no heat, you smell gas a tech will come, other then that no tech will come into your house. I begged and pleaded with them, I was told they will not force a tech to enter any ones house unless it's an emergency. That's when I cracked. To think it could take months to get this dryer hooked up is the straw that broke this camels back. The plumber was here that day, saw and heard the rage I was in, told me to calm down lol he would convert the dryer after all the work was finished and he did that this past Monday. Now neighbors on both sides and one across the road saw these trucks and workers here for 5 weeks, never once did any of them come over and ask was there anything they could do to help, yet, if they ever are faced with what I had, I still would be the first one to offer what ever I could do for them, and they have husbands. Guess it's all about how ppl are raised.

[sahnikraj]

Routine of my pet has not changed. He goes on walks daily but we humans stay at home except when we take him out. But I am glad that this time animals are free. Nature is having its say.

[Lisa and Pic]

It appears in our state of Kentucky, things are going to slowly start opening. Our governor wants us to wear masks at business locations. I read that a few stores will make it mandatory. However, there will be no pools open or camps this summer.

How are things developing in your states?

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by Lisa and Pic

It appears in our state of Kentucky, things are going to slowly start opening. Our governor wants us to wear masks at business locations. I read that a few stores will make it mandatory. However, there will be no pools open or camps this summer.

How are things developing in your states?

Same with Texas. People will be starving soon, have no healthcare with no jobs. No sales tax $ coming in, state governments will go broke trying to provide free healthcare, food, schooling, etc. Heard unemployment is approaching that of the Depression. We have to try to move forward if people will only follow instructions to stay safe.

[matese]

Pennsylvania Governor is "talking" about reopening some non-essential stores. I personally think it's to early, yesterday's news 1740 new cases of the virus were reported here in Pa. Ppl have to weigh which is more important, going back to work for a week possibly contracting this virus and maybe die, leaving their families in worse condition or hunker down, stay home, mortgage companies, and other loan insertions are put in place, no evictions for non payment of rent has been set in place. Here in Pa. more food banks just opened, there is help out there for ppl that need it.

[Captainzing]

I’m too old to get this and survive and too young to get it so I can dies

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by matese

Pennsylvania Governor is "talking" about reopening some non-essential stores. I personally think it's to early, yesterday's news 1740 new cases of the virus were reported here in Pa. Ppl have to weigh which is more important, going back to work for a week possibly contracting this virus and maybe die, leaving their families in worse condition or hunker down, stay home, mortgage companies, and other loan insertions are put in place, no evictions for non payment of rent has been set in place. Here in Pa. more food banks just opened, there is help out there for ppl that need it.

Of course as more testing is done, more positive cases are going to be reported. But even in 85 and older, less than 33% of patients die from the virus, and the younger, the numbers hold at less than 2%. Remember, even if you have a relatively mild case of Covid19 but die of a stroke or heart attack after a history of smoking or years of HBP, heart disease and die from those already serious health risks that would have soon killed you soon anyways, the death is attributed to Covid19. I doubt the true death rate from the virus alone in an otherwise healthy person is 80% of the numbers being reported.

Many states operate at near bankrupt financial status, owing billions in loan debts, as does our federal government, and all too soon food banks run out of product, so do state and federal sales tax coffers and as more businesses fail and more unemployment funds are needed, there is no $ left, as those funds often already having been raided by legislatures for other projects and needs, corruption rears its ugly head even higher than normal times and black markets spring up. And don't forget, there is no Social Security fund, that was raided decades ago and the program is funded just by workers and employers paying into it currently. If banks start to fail, we're in big, big trouble. As jobs dry up, so does it! And those IRA's and pension funds waste away with Wall Street losses and no incoming contributions, interest or anything.

So taken to extremes, the economic picture is just as bleak as the health one if one thinks of Covid19's current deaths as a rule of thumb to use alone in making economic decisions. As long as our hospital ICU's are not running at capacity and even the military hospital ships can stay at sea, not in port providing extra hospital beds, maybe enough people can get back to paying jobs so they can help others, pay taxes and buy a bit more, helping sales tax funds. You cannot have soon half the population sitting at home bingeing on TV series when the disease itself hasn't that high a mortality or morbidity rate to count as a long term economic influence vs. a whole country going into economic depression and the high crime and health risks that poses to the elderly, kids who can't get enough protein or fruits, etc. to even grow up hale and hardy. Kids of the Depression were thinner, smaller, less muscle mass and had many more medical problems than kids afterwards.

If we start having much higher death rates, hospitals overrun again or other problems, we can always go back into quarantine but states and the federal economy can't run like this for very much longer without some current funding for a time. I think we have to try to see if opening w/masks, gloves, social distancing can work.

[Lisa and Pic]

I am sure you have been reading about strokes that some people are having with Covid 19. Scary.

Also, is anyone from Georgia? Since they are moving quickly to open everything I am sure we will all be watching to see if the have a huge spike in cases.

Hope everyone is staying healthy and safe.