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Maximo · 03-21-2015, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KazzyK810

Sign a multi-billion $ contract with USPS and you too can ship for $5.

The lil guy just can't compete with these mega size companies in today's market.

Definitely about volume. I don't know if USPS negotiates rates, but UPS, FedEx, and other carriers do.

yorkiefan_ · 03-21-2015, 06:33 AM

Even worse than that, if the buyer has a dispute doesn't he get refunded and you have no recourse? I know eBay is like that when it comes to selling things.

Maximo · 03-21-2015, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximo

Definitely about volume. I don't know if USPS negotiates rates, but UPS, FedEx, and other carriers do.

Strike that. I had not had enough coffee yet.

USPS has commercial rates, but I don't know if they negotiate as low as UPS or FedEx.

capt_noonie · 03-21-2015, 09:35 AM

I have a Fed Ex acct, but that only gives me 10% off of walk in prices. I had a customer who ships crazy amounts and he had the biggest discount from Fed Ex. I shipped three bikes to him in France on his acct and it cost like $100. Even the lady at the counter was surprised.

capt_noonie · 03-21-2015, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkiefan_

Even worse than that, if the buyer has a dispute doesn't he get refunded and you have no recourse? I know eBay is like that when it comes to selling things.

The buyer gets a full refund, including the shipping. Basically the seller has no recourse. I've had two cases of fraud before, so obvious, and ebay still sided with the buyer. I think the buyer would have to have multiple "red marks" on them until ebay would do anything.

yorkietalkjilly · 03-21-2015, 09:56 AM

I had no idea Amazon was so expensive but did know they were buyer-friendly. Love it as a buyer but selling on there seems almost seller-averse. Beats dragging your stuff out to the front yard and or to the local flea market but boy, they make you bend over and smile while you do to sell there, don't they?

The first time I ever bought anything on Amazon it was a Christmas DVD I never received. I thought my money was just lost - contacted the seller and never received a response. It was one of those high-volume DVD sellers who likely get zillions of email. I thought, oh, well, buyer beware and all that. Some six months later I read Amazon would make a sale good if the buyer never received the item and tried contacting Amazon directly about it, really just as a lark, thinking I was wasting my time it was so long after the fact. All I had was my word that I didn't get the DVD I paid for. The seller sent another DVD within 2 weeks and this one I got! Seven months after the sale and during the dog days of summer but at least I had what I'd paid for the next Christmas.

ShowGirlLola · 03-21-2015, 07:45 PM

I've had to dispute a purchase with ebay and it wasn't easy. I bought a math book and recieved the answer book, it took awhile to convince ebay they sent the wrong book and then ebay wanted me to pay to ship the book back with tracking (aka not media mail). It took over 2 months to settle and ebay finally made the seller pay return shipping, which was about $15. It was awful.

I've also had a minor issue on amazon, I bought a barbie to give as a gift from a seller but fullfilled by amazon. The doll box had sharpie writting all over it, box and front screen. I contacted amazon and asked for a partial refund, they gave it to be without asking for pictures or anything. I didn't press it further because I knew my friend was going to debox it and I was able to clean the front with alcohol.

capt_noonie · 03-21-2015, 08:40 PM

Once I bought what I thought was a full Rosetta Stone in Japanese. What I got was the free DVD that Rosetta Stone gives out and the DVD cover was an obvious color copy. I contacted ebay and nothing happened for months! I don't remember the details, but eventually I got the refund from a totally different paypal email with no details of the transaction, but the amount was the same, so it must have been the refund.

AllDogBoots · 03-22-2015, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by capt_noonie

We have the same bike as the manufacturer, though for example, we buy it for $199, they are selling it for $219. Even if we sell it for $219, we have to pay for shipping (or pass the cost onto the customer) AND get dinged 30%, what is the point?

As a retailer, why are you only getting the bikes for $20 cheaper than the end user? Or am I misreading this?

capt_noonie · 03-22-2015, 10:45 AM

Bc the manufacturers are selling their own product too cheap. The bike industry isn't like many others in retail. Our markups are on average only 30%, unlike others where you can double or even triple the wholesale cost. If it's a brand name like bianchi or Fuji, it's even less. This is why we mostly shied away from major brands (and the type of customers those brands brought).

ShowGirlLola · 03-27-2015, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowGirlLola

That's really odd.

I buy vitamins on amazon, they charge about $7 with free add on shipping, they're sold out right now and the amazon sellers want $10 plus $7 shipping. I wonder why they're allowed to charge more for shipping a small item than you were.

Idk how it's worth selling on amazon, either the prices are so high no one buys it, they're taking a hit, or their price is so close to amazon's people pick amazon for the fast shipping and customer service.

I figured out how the sellers are selling stuff, amazon sells out and people get desperate enough to pay the crazy prices.
My vitamins still aren't in stock and a lot of the expensive sellers have sold out now too.

capt_noonie · 03-27-2015, 07:08 PM

That makes a lot of sense. So you would have to have a very high demand product. Unfortunately for me, the fad for fixies are over. Another reason for slow sales.

ShowGirlLola · 03-27-2015, 08:46 PM

It doesn't necessarily have to be popular, just something people need that's somewhat hard to get.
I'm waiting for wellesse liquid iron, no physical stores sell it, but a few other online stores do. I don't really understand why people are buying from amazon sellers when the other sites are cheaper, but still more expensive than direct from amazon. Well that's if you're buying multiple bottles, for one bottle the sellers are average, the shipping fees are the killer in this case.

03-21-2015, 06:33 AM	#17
yorkiefan_ I ♥ my Cookie Monster! Donating Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: South Texas Posts: 3,007	Even worse than that, if the buyer has a dispute doesn't he get refunded and you have no recourse? I know eBay is like that when it comes to selling things. __________________ Cookie ;;; RIP Minnie

03-21-2015, 09:35 AM	#19
capt_noonie www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County Posts: 17,408	I have a Fed Ex acct, but that only gives me 10% off of walk in prices. I had a customer who ships crazy amounts and he had the biggest discount from Fed Ex. I shipped three bikes to him in France on his acct and it cost like $100. Even the lady at the counter was surprised. __________________ The T.U.B. Pack! Toto, Uni, & Bindi RIP Lord Scrappington Montgomery McLimpybottom aka El Lenguo the Handicapped Ninja 10-12-12

03-21-2015, 09:56 AM	#21
yorkietalkjilly ♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 22,140	I had no idea Amazon was so expensive but did know they were buyer-friendly. Love it as a buyer but selling on there seems almost seller-averse. Beats dragging your stuff out to the front yard and or to the local flea market but boy, they make you bend over and smile while you do to sell there, don't they? The first time I ever bought anything on Amazon it was a Christmas DVD I never received. I thought my money was just lost - contacted the seller and never received a response. It was one of those high-volume DVD sellers who likely get zillions of email. I thought, oh, well, buyer beware and all that. Some six months later I read Amazon would make a sale good if the buyer never received the item and tried contacting Amazon directly about it, really just as a lark, thinking I was wasting my time it was so long after the fact. All I had was my word that I didn't get the DVD I paid for. The seller sent another DVD within 2 weeks and this one I got! Seven months after the sale and during the dog days of summer but at least I had what I'd paid for the next Christmas. __________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis

03-21-2015, 08:40 PM	#23
capt_noonie www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County Posts: 17,408	Once I bought what I thought was a full Rosetta Stone in Japanese. What I got was the free DVD that Rosetta Stone gives out and the DVD cover was an obvious color copy. I contacted ebay and nothing happened for months! I don't remember the details, but eventually I got the refund from a totally different paypal email with no details of the transaction, but the amount was the same, so it must have been the refund. __________________ The T.U.B. Pack! Toto, Uni, & Bindi RIP Lord Scrappington Montgomery McLimpybottom aka El Lenguo the Handicapped Ninja 10-12-12

03-22-2015, 10:45 AM	#25
capt_noonie www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County Posts: 17,408	Bc the manufacturers are selling their own product too cheap. The bike industry isn't like many others in retail. Our markups are on average only 30%, unlike others where you can double or even triple the wholesale cost. If it's a brand name like bianchi or Fuji, it's even less. This is why we mostly shied away from major brands (and the type of customers those brands brought). __________________ The T.U.B. Pack! Toto, Uni, & Bindi RIP Lord Scrappington Montgomery McLimpybottom aka El Lenguo the Handicapped Ninja 10-12-12

03-21-2015, 07:45 PM	#22
ShowGirlLola YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 1,354	I've had to dispute a purchase with ebay and it wasn't easy. I bought a math book and recieved the answer book, it took awhile to convince ebay they sent the wrong book and then ebay wanted me to pay to ship the book back with tracking (aka not media mail). It took over 2 months to settle and ebay finally made the seller pay return shipping, which was about $15. It was awful. I've also had a minor issue on amazon, I bought a barbie to give as a gift from a seller but fullfilled by amazon. The doll box had sharpie writting all over it, box and front screen. I contacted amazon and asked for a partial refund, they gave it to be without asking for pictures or anything. I didn't press it further because I knew my friend was going to debox it and I was able to clean the front with alcohol.

03-27-2015, 07:08 PM	#27
capt_noonie www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County Posts: 17,408	That makes a lot of sense. So you would have to have a very high demand product. Unfortunately for me, the fad for fixies are over. Another reason for slow sales. __________________ The T.U.B. Pack! Toto, Uni, & Bindi RIP Lord Scrappington Montgomery McLimpybottom aka El Lenguo the Handicapped Ninja 10-12-12

03-27-2015, 08:46 PM	#28
ShowGirlLola YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 1,354	It doesn't necessarily have to be popular, just something people need that's somewhat hard to get. I'm waiting for wellesse liquid iron, no physical stores sell it, but a few other online stores do. I don't really understand why people are buying from amazon sellers when the other sites are cheaper, but still more expensive than direct from amazon. Well that's if you're buying multiple bottles, for one bottle the sellers are average, the shipping fees are the killer in this case.