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The nurses that took care of the nurses that got sick from Duncan, are being monitored....so that is good...it isnt like they are kicked to the curb with a pat on the back....they are not in isolation or quarantine, but they have to take temps twice a day and turn it into a health care officer from the CDC. That nurse with all that book learning perhaps has a little common sense to go along with it and can understand why the steps are being taken. Regardless, she has said she would not be deterred by this quarantine process and even though she would have to do it again, she would definately go. Here is another thought: If you actually get down to it, since there is no known cure for the disease, and the only thing all those health care workers are doing over there is supportive care, all these "brains" and "master degreed specialist" could do alot more for the cause of finding a cure, if they stayed in the States and contributed to the research end of the disease....put all that fantastic brain power to paper and formulate hypothesis's and theories and suggestions in the pursuit of a cure for the disease. Their highly trained specialized skills could be much better appropriated and used here, coming up with a cure, rather than just writing orders for IVs and antivomiting meds and supportive care in the midst of all the ebola chaos and confusion. A "regular" doctor can do what doctors do...stand at the bedside and read the chart, ask questions, and write orders by what they are looking at and seeing....the nurses are the ones cleaning up and holding and caring for those patients. |
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The number of healthcare workers, foreigners volunteering to treat in Africa, must be far greater than ever. The probability of problems is much, much higher. Who is monitoring them so closely to make sure strict protocols are being observed? Are these monitors there day in and day out observing the foreign medical workers? Do they really have all of the equipment and supplies they need? Why are we sending our military over there to build more accommodations to handle the sick? Why is there a doctor in NYC positive for ebola? |
Oh GREAT!! Now it is as I suspected...all hat and no cattle....Gov Cuomo has caved from pressure from "higher up" and so he is sending the nurse "home"....and that is where??? TEXAS, of course!!! Wonder where in Texas she is coming? Wonder how she will get down here? Fly on a chartered jet? Wonder if she is footing the bill for THAT. She is not sick....let her purchase a ticket and fly commercial. I am sure all the other passengers are not concerned. I will be on the phone tomorrow to Gov.Perry....I want to know how he plans to make sure this nurse does what she is supposed to do and stay at home, being monitored....she can be working up her law suit while she remains at home, hopefully burning up her phone line and not having company visiting!........we know how well that "self isolation" thingie has worked with the others! By the luck of the Irish, no one else has gotten sick from one of these people....but it is only a matter of time. Christie, hoping YOU dont get weak in the knees and back up on this.... |
WebMD email re: ebola epidemic in US Here is a doctors take on the situation which includes measures that are being taken etc. I thought it was interesting so thought I'd share: Questions and Answers About Ebola |
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Dr. Spencer got Ebola because he either accidentally broke protocol, the gear/disinfectant process failed or he accidentally got a very sick Ebola patient's bodily fluids into his body while very near one another while both were out seeking to meet some need. As I understand it, Ebola patients are usually on their own in West Africa, as many shun them and they must fend for themselves until they pass out or grow too weak. Until Dr. Spencer got sick AND was producing a high viral load, he was simply not contagious or infectious to any New Yorker. How would his sitting home when he was unable to communicate the disease to anyone else help keep the community be any safer? Until the public fear is less virulent itself, it would probably be wiser if he'd stayed off the subway and away from bowling but honestly, as we keep seeing, only high viral loads infect others. Unless you are going to hospital/home quarantine all Ebola workers, including those working in America, mandatory quarantining just those returning from West Africa is based only on fear as monitoring is already in place. And previously, you'd compared healthcare workers' weeks-long volunteering efforts to years-long military commitments. Not the same. Remember, healthcare workers with healthcare degrees, board certifications, fellowships, etc., are largely fiercely independent people who have busy, full-time medical careers and large practices, cannot commit years to Ebola, are not military-minded and can't usually sign up to volunteer for more than a few weeks. They are healers and not war-fighters and as such, expect their country to support their heroic efforts rather than penalize them with unnecessary quarantines that really aren't making the public any safer because they sit in quarantine incapable of spreading Ebola unless and until they are very sick and shedding high viral loads all over the place. |
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That nurse will be released back to her hometown....she is not coming to Texas!....Although she is from Texas, she lives in Maine, and will be returning there. It is an issue for them to deal with. We will see what kind of system they have set up there to handle these specific cases and if they will make decisions that they support for more than 24 hours. This entire thing reminds me of the dance, the "Hokey-Pokey"...."First you put your right foot in, then you take your right foot out, put your right foot back in, and shake it all about....". |
Thank God that little boy came back negative for ebola..... |
The nurse was in New Jersey not New York. Christie, not Cuomo, let her go home to Maine. See how people don't get their facts straight befor spouting off. |
I saw this on FB this morning. It's a British comedian pretty much making fun of the US vs Britain's news coverage. There's a couple of "bad" words in his monologue so be warned. ;) |
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?????? According to news releases, Gov.Cuomo caved first, and then Christie decided to let her leave, also under extreme push back from The White House...... "The White House ripped into the governors of New Jersey and New York, and reportedly excoriated the governors in private telephone calls for instituting a policy which “doesn’t comport with science.Christie stood firm and noted on Sunday that federal officials would soon have to adopt his state’s quarantine policy, but Cuomo soon caved and clarified that asymptomatic individuals believed to have been exposed to Ebola will be allowed to isolate themselves in their own homes.After testing negative for Ebola, Christie’s administration consented to allowing the quarantined nurse to transfer to a facility in her home state of Maine. The embarrassing turnaround came after Obama chaired a White House meeting on the rules and successfully lobbied Christie’s New York counterpart, Gov. Andrew Cuomo, to relax their quarantine rules – even as Americans grow more concerned about the possibility of a pandemic emergency." |
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I went back and tried to find the specific source, and decided to just list sources that have all reported the same time line, including the Daily Mail from UK...I will include the quote that is short and sweet from the Daily Mail last.... I have listed only a few of the sources that have reported the sequence of events... Daily KOS, CNN, HotAir.com, Fox News, New York Times, Houston Chronicle, MSNBC, (this is just a short list because I have dogs to groom and cant sit here all day listing all the sources that have reported this story, including all the major news stations on TV...) and last but not least, the short quote, that is taken from a longer article from the Daily Mail: "Reports swirled in New Jersey and Washington on Sunday night and Monday morning, suggesting that Christie had backpedaled on his policy, following a similar 180-degree shift from New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo." |
I just want to say that I am so very sorry that the USA is dealing with this. I hear your frustrations, and I do so hope that this Ebola is just a scare and the right quarantine practices do get put into effect. Also I think I hear Canada is also working on a vaccine, and donated more many millions to the care of Ebola patients in West Africa. |
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haha, or until the next hot tabloid topic comes along....amazing how fast the news takes advantage of their power over the public...we talk about propaganda in other countries, the US is the laughing stock of the world regarding our hysterias and newsreporting...eh, live and learn....they lost me about 2 plagues ago... |
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This is really funny where on earth do you get these from? hahahahahahaha |
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Where is the world with "boots on the ground" in West Africa, working to help stop the epidemic there? I know DWB and some of the NGO's have a few international volunteers but is it just mainly the U. S. and U. K. or are there other countries who have large numbers of healthcare workers and military who are actually working there? No wonder our healthcare workers are all so done in when they get back home! Is this article true - that the US has to be the world's medical insurance policy to get more countries to offer up workers?!?! Seriously?!?! Australia has stopped its workers from going. State Department plans to bring foreign Ebola patients to U.S. - Washington Times Ebola outbreak: Australia will not send health workers to west Africa | World news | theguardian.com |
I expected nothing less....what happened to the "lead from behind" concept? Guess that is for just certain areas, certain people..... Is there anyone on this forum that is from Australia? |
At this rate, with less and less healthcare workers likely available and 5,000 more needed right now, I hope there is a way to get ahead of the upcoming Ebola cases in West Africa. Countries are soon going to have to pay/incentivize future healthcare workers to go if their numbers get less and less, the work gets harder and has longer hours and their return home means strict quarantines/stigmatization. AP News : Top UN Ebola official: new cases poorly tracked The whole world relies on this one U.S. company to fly Ebola patients - The Washington Post |
So not one other country in this world can take a private jet, install a metal frame, plastic liner and an air-filtration system so they can medevac their sick healthcare workers home? Their only solution is to cut them off or not send them to start with? |
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I think other countries understand the implication they face, the problems they face, getting involved more and more with this problem. The solution to the problem is finding a vaccine, which the world is working on. There are countries all over the world, trying to develop vaccines to irradicate this disease. We are the only country that is more concern with helping masses of people and out of some sense of compassion, risk exposure of our own population to horrific diseases. We send healthcare workers, we send "boots on the ground", we build hospitals and clinics and set up isolation areas, we send billions of dollars in money, research, medical supplies,financial aid, etc and if all that is not enough, just let us know how much more we can cough up, shake from our money trees, take from our nest eggs.... The United States is the most hated country on the face of the earth, we are the laughing stock of the rest of the world, and we are expected to save the entire world, by countries that hate us the most. Crazy, crazy, crazy..........and so sad. Just tell us what you need and by golly, we will send it post haste, by hook or by crook....just how much more must we be required to deliver, or made to feel like we are "cruel, inhumane, incompassionate" sloths. We have a couple of real allies....our wonderful neighbors to the north-Canada....England, Australia, Israel... think that is about the size of it....but we are expected to heal , clothe, feed, cultivate, and defend the entire rest of the world. Excuse me while I go draw another bucketfull of money from the well out back...... |
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