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I think its sad this issue has been turned into a race issue. I know racism does exist but also alot of times the race card is used when racism isnt an issue. The sad thing is it is taking away from the facts. The first time Mr Duncan told him where he just came from and the hospital didnt put two and two together with that and his symptoms that he had ebola and sent him away with antibiotics. No matter what I feel they are negligent for that and they are negligent that he went on to expose more people to his illness. Would he be alive now if when he first went to the hospital he received appropriate care, we will never know for sure

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4495380)

Also when they released him he had 103 degree temp. What hospital should be releasing anyone with that high of a temp

Nancy Writebol was initially misdiagnosed, released to home on malaria medication, with a high fever.

But you know what - being in denial isn't legally defensible unless he was later deemed to have been mentally ill at the time by medical doctors and a judge, totally incapable of knowing right from wrong when he filled out those forms, boarded that plane and touched others, etc., after he became symptomatic. Why? Because anyone can claim they or someone they care about is in denial and unless authorities have real evidence of true incapacity of normal mental function and loss of the concept of reality when the person offended, denial isn't an excuse for causing bodily harm to or putting other people at risk of death. So unless we were mentally ill at the time, we can deny for the rest of our life, we just can't cause bodily harm to others without taking responsibility by facing some sort of legal - and perhaps - civil processes.

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4495384)

Nancy Writebol was initially misdiagnosed, released to home on malaria medication, with a high fever.

Yes and they misdiagnosed her so is it good protocol. Who should be home caring for themselves with a 103 fever. He should have never been misdiagnosed with the info he gave them and his symptoms I dont care who else was misdiagnosed similarly Im talking about this case

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 4495377)

I have no doubt they believe they were discrimminated against. That was getting very evident from the beginning of this disaster. That is the very part of the "denial" excuse that wont wash. Racism does exist, but it is certainly not in every single encounter between two different races, which is what is always the "go to" call. The "race card" is getting real dog eared and tattered, and hopefully, the kids growing up today, will not be so quick to throw it down at any and every opportunity where they are not happy with an outcome, and they feel the race card provides them with advantages, in roads, and opportunities not provided equally to everyone, just because of their race. The family started talking about "discrimination" when they were quarantined. They had food delivered, and they had other necessities delivered, clean linens, clothes, etc. They were moved to a gated community, in a upper class neighborhood, where they had a washing machine so they could wash clothes and sheets....they were provided for at a level of living standards they were not familiar with. That home was donated by someone that had compassion for these peoples plight...no discrimination there. Food continued to be delivered. The kids were provided with lap tops so they could continue with their school work. This did not cost them a single dime....certainly no discrimination there. There was no discrimination involved in any aspect of this family's encounter with anyone outside of the immediate family. There is not a State in the Union that has ever had to deal with ebola. There were no protocols for this disease and how to deal with it. I hope the family is not whipped into some kind of "racial discrimination, now we gonna get you" behavior. They need to sleeve the race card and understand the situation for exactly what it is. I think everyone needs to be commended for everything that was done correctly, "on the fly", to help this family and the patient, instead of criticized and accused of racial descrimination. This was all uncharted territory all these people were suddenly thrown in, and they handled it extremely well....as evident by no progression or further contamination of anyone else in the family, in spite of the kids that were sent to school (after they were told to remain in their apartment and not go out), and all the inadvertant contacts the unsuspecting public had with the terribly ill patient. The learning curve was met very quickly in dealing with this patient and his disease and his family, and I guess, in spite of that, it is inevitable because the man happened to be black and he died, racial discrimination is yet again the bugle call. While it is expected, it is so unfair to so many people that tried so hard to help this man and provide for his family.....I suppose they do not deserve any credit for all they did. It will be very interesting to see what course transpires when the family is cleared and can come out of quarantine. I wonder if they will expect to continue to live in that loaned home, keeping the lap top computers, continuing to have supplies provided free of charge,etc.......lets watch where that all ends up. Lets see what has to be done, what hoops they have to jump through, to prevent these people that have gone above and beyond any obligation they have to this family, to keep them from being called racists.

:thumbdown to those thoughts.

I cannot even bring myself to respond to this thread any more. Suffice it to say I am shocked although I am not sure why.

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4495388)

Of course mistakes are awful by anyone who has to sufer from them but what I'm saying is, if in the midst of the Ebola hot zone, with the patient being an Ebola provider herself, she didn't meet enough of the CDC risk factors and guidelines as a potential Ebola patient, it must not be always that easy to recognize this disease vs. others. Same with that assistant nurse in Spain - she was misdiagnosed early and sent home.

But with the awareness of ebola and the info he did give should they be misdiagnosed that is what the attorneys are going to need to sort out and this will go to court

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4495395)

But with the awareness of ebola and the info he did give should they be misdiagnosed that is what the attorneys are going to need to sort out and this will go to court

Unless they've got lots of science and evidence to the contrary, if the hospital and doctors' liability carriers know what's good for them, they will settle out of court IF the son and mom's attorney will agree.

I imagine they will get to keep the laptops, TV, games, clothes and things they were given, plus many more things that are no doubt coming their way by compassionate and big-hearted people from their church and others. And they probably will get to stay in the home if they want until they can reasonably be expected to be able to resume a bearable life out in society, return to school, get jobs, etc., as just like with AIDS, this disease seems to cause so many in surrounding neighborhoods plus some others, real jitters, totally unnecessary unless they are actually having Ebola-like symptoms.

Judge Jenkins said they had so little in that apartment they were living in - two straight chairs, I think a couch and TV, and that Troh was sleeping on the living room floor as the bedroom was unusable, with very little food and Deputy Monnig said with very poor lighting - I truly hope those that can will pitch in to help get Louise and those boys who were living in that small place some extra help until and if any liability claim they make is paid, which could be years from now. Of course, their lawyers will advance them money on a contingency basis but unless they can work, they will need more.

Just because, to my mind, some of them put others at some risk of death by having Duncan here during a deadly epidemic and some of them said some irresponsible and vile things about that medical team of 50, CDC, FDA, WHO, etc., doesn't mean they weren't probably struggling to get by, send the children to school, etc., and still need a hand up for now and maybe for quite a while. They've had a real and ongoing tragedy in their lives and no amount of help can replace their loss.

So far so good - no symptoms among any of them or the other contacts as of news this evening. I pray they all stay safe and well, including those nursing him once he was so sick. Even in PPE's and best equipment, it's got to be scary and stressful.

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4495388)

I don't think we know for sure what info he told them.