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megansmomma 10-02-2014 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dottiesyrky (Post 4492697)
He carried the Ebola woman hours before she died, and 4 days later he flew to Dallas.

I read that he had a pregnant relative that had Ebola. He carried her home to die. So, here's my thought. He came to the US because he thought that he might be infected with Ebola to try to save himself. The death rate in Africa is pretty high from poor conditions at hospitals, poverty as well as their practices of burying the dead. But the cure rate of the several US citizens that were transported back to the US for treatment is 100%. The hospital triage nurse totally dropped the ball when he first went for treatment and he was then sent home. If I read correctly, he told her that he was from Liberia yet somehow this information did not transfer down to the rest of the staff.

EarthAngel 10-02-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 4492716)
I read that he had a pregnant relative that had Ebola. He carried her home to die. So, here's my thought. He came to the US because he thought that he might be infected with Ebola to try to save himself. The death rate in Africa is pretty high from poor conditions at hospitals, poverty as well as their practices of burying the dead. But the cure rate of the several US citizens that were transported back to the US for treatment is 100%. The hospital triage nurse totally dropped the ball when he first went for treatment and he was then sent home. If I read correctly, he told her that he was from Liberia yet somehow this information did not transfer down to the rest of the staff.

I have heard that same thing, Jodi. Being desperate for treatment he comes here. Now only goodness knows how many people were infected. Praying no one else will come down with it. Hope the professionals get this under control.

megansmomma 10-02-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by EarthAngel (Post 4492731)
I have heard that same thing, Jodi. Being desperate for treatment he comes here. Now only goodness knows how many people were infected. Praying no one else will come down with it. Hope the professionals get this under control.


I think as long as the CDC stays on top of this the likelihood that we will have some type of major outbreak is pretty slim. Did you hear there is also a possible case in Hawaii too?

megansmomma 10-02-2014 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 4492672)
They are now saying the list of people he came in contact has grown up to 80-100....he must have been a very busy man in the 4 days that he became "symptomatic".....

I would think by just going to the ER he contacted many people. Then when he was transported by to the hospital he would have contacted even more people. So I could easily see that number occurring with possible exposed people. ERs are a breeding ground of contamination. YUCK :eek:

dottiesyrky 10-02-2014 11:41 AM

Ebola
 
It is all very well that he lied to the Liberian authorities as he thought he would get better treatment in the US if he were infected, but what about all the family etc here that he may infect to possibly save himself??

EarthAngel 10-02-2014 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 4492739)
I think as long as the CDC stays on top of this the likelihood that we will have some type of major outbreak is pretty slim. Did you hear there is also a possible case in Hawaii too?

Yes, I have heard about one case in Hawaii and haven't heard anything anymore.

dottiesyrky 10-02-2014 12:08 PM

hawaii
 
One hour ago reported that the patient does not have Ebola. Thank goodness for that!

megansmomma 10-02-2014 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dottiesyrky (Post 4492745)
It is all very well that he lied to the Liberian authorities as he thought he would get better treatment in the US if he were infected, but what about all the family etc here that he may infect to possibly save himself??

My opinion is that what he did was calculated but if my theory is correct it is unconscionable. Liberia is now talking about prosecuting him for lying to authorities before boarding the plane.

dottiesyrky 10-02-2014 02:22 PM

What I don't understand is that when he developed symptoms like those of Ebola, and HE knew he had been in close contact with a victim in Liberia, why did he not make the hospital staff aware of that....if only to save himself if he did have it? Especially if his motive for lying in Liberia was to get better treatment in the US? They are having to clean up the parking lot of his apartments with high pressure hoses and bleach as he was seen throwing up there by other residents!! I think this guy has no consideration for others. IMHO!

Yorkiemom1 10-02-2014 03:13 PM

His family is under guard now...they were told to stay inside and they did not follow directions and several left their apartment, so now they are being guarded. Just think of all the people this family and this man has exposed to this disease.....everyone in that apartment was around him when he was contagious, so chances are they also will become ill.

I was REALLY concerned about what they "power washed" that vomit off the street and sidewalk.....I contacted a friend that works in CDC/Health Department in Dallas....it is my understanding they are washing exposed areas with chlorinated water, which is what they use over there in those clinics for care takers to walk through. I could not get an answer about if this was used to wash the vomit off the sidewalk/street, as he was being taken to the hospital the second time. (We use that system on my crates daily and yard surfaces weekly because of the sterilizing/cleaning effect.)

sandy simpson 10-02-2014 03:18 PM

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This ebola virus is a very serious thing. My daughter is supposed to fly to Austin for some big concert coming up and I pray that virus will be stopped cold right where it is. If that spreads there will be tough times ahead for a lot of people. We must pray for this to stop and for people to be aware of germs and illness. Oh the signs of the times. Look up because there is no hope here on earth.

Yorkiemom1 10-02-2014 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 4492742)
I would think by just going to the ER he contacted many people. Then when he was transported by to the hospital he would have contacted even more people. So I could easily see that number occurring with possible exposed people. ERs are a breeding ground of contamination. YUCK :eek:


I thought of that....but hopefully as critically ill as he was by that time, they did not park him out in the waiting room or leave him in the hallway.....hopefully he was taken back immediately and put into a room. But, hey, ya never know......

lynzy420 10-02-2014 04:09 PM

This reminds me of AIDS...all the fear and hysteria...not to mention the bias and hatred flung at those affected....he carried his relative home to die, how honorable...I held my brother inlaw as he died from AIDS...I'd do it again and again...Just my 2 cents on this...Safe to say more people die from AIDS every year then from Ebola...Aids was the dirty epidemic of its time....Ebola now....good hygiene and practical care are necessary for adults and teaching of our children is so important as the world changes and cross world travel so easy...Yes I know how both these are spread...yes I know they are not the same....yes I care..

lynzy420 10-02-2014 04:15 PM

Here's how you can (and can't) get Ebola - Vox


Some great information....

yorkietalkjilly 10-02-2014 04:17 PM

If indeed that man got on a plane and flew to this country knowing he had been exposed to a deadly disease, he should be prosecuted for endangering the very lives of our innocent children and civilians, who are now apparently paying for his medical care and a huge community expenses. To think that he came and stayed in the very apartment where his little son was living knowing he had carried a person who subsequently died from such a miserable disease that is also highly deadly is truly despicable. I hope that the reports are not true and it was another man that carried the pregnant woman and then got the heck out of Dodge to this country where he could get the best of care. It seems highly improbable to me that according to his family that this man who came from an despicable-ridden city(I've heard more than one person say that Ebola is everywhere in the entire region of Liberia) was in direct contact with the bodily fluids of an Ebola patient sufficient enough to infect him, yet never even mentioned it to them! Huh? I wasn't born yesterday and neither are the rest of US taxpayers who are footing a huge bill to try to care for him and fix this mess.

No small amount of responsibility must be laid directly at the feet of Presbyterian Hospital. They potentially could have forestalled much of this situation had they better protocols and isolated him during his initial emergent encounter with them.

Whatever happened before he left Liberia, we know he was closely in contact with an Ebola patient enough to come in contact with their bodily fluids or he wouldn't have gotten sick with it so I am leaning toward thinking this man knowingly came to this country and walked among us, fully aware he was a ticking time bomb of deadly disease. Why he didn't self-report his home location and close-contact with at least one Ebola patient over and over to the doctors who saw him at Presby ER during his first visit, I'll never know. I wonder if he doesn't speak English and was trying to tell them or what?

During one of the press conferences, one of the officials said they were having problems getting a contractor with the capabilities to meet CDC guidelines to go clean up that apartment he stayed in! I pray the amount of Ebola-infected travelers we have visit our shores are limited to only a relatively few more as it doesn't sound as if the US has adequate measures in place to stop them at the airports!


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