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Yes I know that. So he still is in the running if he can get better. With this series there is always a twist to everything. .

I was under the impression that the book for this portion hasn't come out yet... maybe they have now, I just hadn't heard about it... The writer is way behind was/is my understanding. Certainly I could and have been wrong before about this series.... There is a lot going on in GOT. :)

IDK, considering everything Loras Tyrrell had to give up and swear to do, and the mutilation of his forehead.... I can easily IMAGINE that the high sparrow would have had Cersei confess to having sex with her brother even possibly accusing her of the truth, that all of her children were the spawn of her brother and not the King's. If that had happened, Cersei's son Tommen would have been ousted from the throne immediately and I suspect a simple forehead mutilation would not have been enough to satiate the high sparrow's thirst for "righteousness", death for Cersei is the only possible penance for such crimes, I'm sure the high sparrow would have tossed in the murder of the king as well. Sorta recap the crimes of Loras Tyrrell's, compare it to the imaginable crimes/accusations for Cersei.... and the resulting punishment. IMO Cersei did what she had to in order to survive.. let alone prosper as she has done, first at the direction of her father and then on her own accord.

"On the day of Cersei and Loras's trial, Margaery stands with her father in the Great Sept of Baelor, and watches from the sidelines as Loras renounces his allegiance to House Tyrell and confesses to his accusations. She comforts her father and restrains him from intervening when the Faith militant begin carving the seven-pointed star into Loras's forehead. When Cersei does not show up for her own trial, the High Sparrow sends Lancel Lannister to bring her to the sept by force, and after Lancel himself does not return after a prolonged period of time, Margaery suggests to the High Sparrow that Cersei's absence and that of her son indicates that she is plotting to harm them, urging him to evacuate everyone before it is too late. Clearly underestimating Cersei, the High Sparrow dismisses this notion and has his Sparrows keep the Tyrell siblings from leaving the sept, along with everyone else present. [27]

Margaery Death
Margaery gives one last look to the High Sparrow, knowing her fate is sealed by the hands of Cersei.
Powerless to do anything, Margaery clutches her brother as the sept erupts in an explosion of green wildfire, killing everyone inside, including Margaery, Loras, and their father. As a result of Margaery's death, Tommen commits suicide after he sees the burning sept from his chambers in the Red Keep"

I had the same understanding, that the last season is now ahead of the books. Fans are eager to see if the future books will be radically different than the show.

I agree that the High Sparrow planned to have Cersei confess in her trial that her children were Jamie's. Cersei had already been forced to confess privately. That would have resulted in Tommen being removed from the throne, but I don't think the High Sparrow would have executed Tommen.

I'm convinced Marjorie was hoping Cersei was going to sentenced to death, but Marjorie wasn't thinking that Tommen would be removed from the throne.

If Tommen had been stripped of the crown, and Cersei executed or sidelined in some way, who would have been next in line?

Oh whoa, didn't even consider Tommen being removed!

Technically, next in line would've been Stannis and Renly, right? But they're gone. So then, technically, it would be Robert's illegitimate son, right (the iron smith...the one Ned went to visit that one time. Is the iron smith even still alive, I can't remember lol...?!!?)..? And after that, I'm not even sure who would be next!

Gendry, the iron smith, yes! I only know his name because I am re-watching the show from the beginning. Gendry was last seen rowing a boat to Kings Landing in season 3. He might still be out there rowing, lol!

The Red Witch leeched some blood from Gendry and made plans to burn him at the stake as a sacrifice to the fire god to help Stannis. Davos Seaworth, the Onion Knight, saved Gendry by putting him in the row boat.

It will be interesting to see if he ever reappears.

I agree, Tommen was still an innocent child, he wouldn't have been executed just his crown removed.

I like that thought of Marjorie and agree it's likely.... Marjorie seemed to be up to something, but, now we will likely never know what that was.

IDK who would have been next in line. Getting to be fewer houses to fight over it in event of a civil war. :confused:

This may be a little confusing but worth a gander, the major armies remaining: Great House - Game of Thrones Wiki - Wikia

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I don't think he finished the book yet Mark . I haven't heard about it either.

Re-watching the series and picking up things I missed the first time or had forgotten:

Littlefinger was involved with Olenna Tyrell in the murder of Joffrey.

Littlefinger gave Lysa the poison to kill her husband, Jon Arryn, the Hand of the King whom Ned Stark ended up replacing, and advised Lysa to blame the Lannisters . . . setting in motion the whole big mess in the Seven Kingdoms.

It will be interesting to see where Littlefinger ends up in the end.

Just heard about a delay for the filming for next season, they want darker and gloomier days to film since "Winter" is nearer at hand... possibly pushing back next season's opening until after April.

If I recall correctly, Cercei became aware that Ned discovered the bastard child, or children, of King Baratheon and that's why she framed him somehow and had him killed. I don't recall Littlefinger being involved with killing King Baratheon though. I think that was all Cercei. I can't recall clearly what involvement Littlefinger had in framing or capturing Ned.

Not sure if anyone posted this yet.

Either the radio or something on net, next season is it

I agree that Cercei masterminded her husband Robert Baratheon's death, having her cousin ply him with extra wine during the boar hunt. Maybe the wine was spiked too to make him extra slow and vulnerable. I think Robert's armor was also suddenly too small, so I think he went without.

On his death bed, Robert named Ned Lord Regent until Joffrey came of age. Cersei wasn't going to have that, in addition to Ned knowing Joffrey was a bastard. Cersei tore up Robert's will in front of Ned and the others.

Littlefinger had promised Ned that he would make sure the City Watch supported him. Littlefinger lied and at the big showdown in the throne room between the Lannisters and Ned, it is Littlefinger who holds a dagger to Ned's throat.

What? Nooo! I thought last word is that there will 2 seasons, albeit shorter ones.

As Mark indicated above, it is probably going to be a long wait.

Geesh...if we really think about all that unfolded and what else Littlefinger has been involved in...he really is the Master of puppet masters, really!

I wonder if Varys can out-Littlefinger the Littlefinger...?

I haven't heard that anywhere yet. Last I read, multiple locations, 13 more episodes spread out over the next two years and possibly starting next season AFTER April, so later than the years in the past.

Just looked, I don't see any other change yet.
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OH! Right... Thanks! So Sansa, Jon and Aria don't know that, Little Finger would surely be on Arya's list if she knew.

Before the big ball of green flame, I was wondering how they could cover all of the story lines remaining in only 13 more episodes.... POOF! LOL All of those people, all of those story lines gone, in a blink of an eye! LOL Brilliantly done I'll add.

So really only 4 major groups, and a couple of minor, left. Mother of Dragons and her allies, Lannisters and their entourage, King of the North and their allies, and finally, the White Walkers make up the 4 majors that I see. There's the Brotherhood, witch and Hound,, the other half of the Iron Born.. and a couple stragglers Gendry? and the meister in the making... but he'll tie back in with Jon.. and so will Bran?... he'll make it to Winterfell.

Is Mother of Dragons headed straight to King's Landing?

Yes! I am hoping that Varys will be involved in taking down Littlefinger.

I am ready to see Daenerys go head to head Cersei.

I read somewhere that Sam may be unwittingly holding some sort of key, an item, that can stop the dragons. Uh oh! Perhaps there is something to the family sword he took from his family home? So his trip to the Citadel to become a maester may be only part of his story.

I don't really understand the Bran storyline. If he is the 3-eyed raven, doesn't he need to be permanently tied up in the roots of the tree like the previous one?

I'm also a little cloudy on the White Walkers. Can they go south of the wall?

At the end of that last episode, MOD or someone around her went through where they were headed.... I couldn't really make out if they were headed straight to Kings Landing or somewhere else in Westeros.

If Sam has a valyrian steel sword, it can kill white walkers: Dragonglass is a common name in Westeros for the substance known as obsidian, a form of volcanic glass. Along with Valyrian steel, it is one of the two known substances capable of killing White Walkers. It is the paramount tool-stone and major implement of the magic of the Children of the Forest, responsible for, amongst other things, transforming men into White Walkers, first performed during the Dawn Age.

Large amounts of dragonglass can be found on Dragonstone.
another reference: This Tiny Game of Thrones Detail Confirms That Daenerys Targaryen is the Only Hope for Westeros | Vanity Fair
I didn't see anything about Sam having something to fight dragons... I don't see Jon and his crew fighting MOD, I also don't see Jon marrying his aunt(MOD).

Bran... remember... Westerfell has one of those trees at the springs, hot springs.... it's not all hollowed out, but has that odd look to it. Somehow, I think Bran will provide intel about when and where the white walkers can be met and beat by the humans. Just a possibility... but... he's got to be useful for something. Another thought is warging with the dragons... but Dani seems to have that covered... so that, Bran directing the dragons, isn't likely IMO.

They came south of the wall before, before the wall was built, The wall was built to keep them in but it is in disrepair and neglected now... it's been so long some people don't even believe in the white walker legends, maybe even most people in Westeros. The walkers have collected an army of dead, it took an immense amount of time to rebuild their numbers, of the dead and the white walkers.... wasn't that many people north of the wall to be turned into white walkers or to become part of the dead army. Now, there is nearly NO people north of the wall... the wildlings all came south or, they already got killed...

the walker army is ready to move at any time... MOD's army is on the move... Kings landing has their army back... Jon has his army... It's really ALL set up except Jon doesn't have all of the weapons he needs to fight the walkers yet. Sam will make it back north with his father's sword... I don't know that he'll be able to use it though, he's a dagger guy... Maybe the Hound will use Sam's sword and the Brotherhood will jump in and help Jon at the bequest or direction of the Red Witch.. LOL IDK! LOL

Yes - I am SO ready for MOD to take down Cersei!

Other than whatever he used to kill that one White Walker (Valyrian sword/dagger or dragon glass dagger) -- the only other "thing" they made a big deal of showing was the little white thimble that was had belonged to Sam's Mom - she gave it to him the night before he left for the Wall. He then gave to it to Gilly in the scene when the Crows first left Craster's Keep...to show his feelings for her, and to let her know he'd be back for her.

I too am confused as to why that one guy had to be tied to the roots, but not Bran...is there some difference btwn them...?

I'll watch again and pay closer attention.

This was just a theory I read in another forum. If I recall correctly, the theory was based on a clue in the books that this is possible. The possible dragon-neutralizer item is something that hasn't been hinted at in the show.

I agree, no marriage between those two, Jon and MOD. I think Daanerys will take the iron throne and Jon will be lord of Winterfell and warden of the North like Ned.

I forgot that the wall was built to keep the White Walkers out. Maybe I was thinking like a Westerosi for a moment and not believing they existed anymore, haha. But, can the army of the dead go south? Remember Uncle Benjen said he can't go south of the wall? The Children made him something with the dragon glass, not White Walker and not undead, but ???

Haha! Maybe! I felt sorry for the Hound when the little religious commune he had joined was slaughtered. Poor guy was trying to live peacefully. Will he still be on Arya's kill list?

Yes, the thimble! I think that may have been it. Good memory, Ann!

Can you imagine, a thimble holding the key to neutralizing the dragons?

Here's the trees: Weirwood - Game of Thrones Wiki - Wikia
Here's Bran: Bran Stark - Game of Thrones Wiki - Wikia

You're right, the walkers and dead need to overcome some magic at the wall before heading south.

Bran just needs to be able to touch a heart tree.. a weirwood with a face carved into it to enter his vision of the past... as they escaped the one underground tree area, he remained in the past, unconscious, while that gal carried him out, he was also in the present some how controlling Hodor... that's what messed Hodor up for life... it attached the young Hodor of the past with the old Hodor of his future until the moment he died. "Hold the door" ... "Hodor" Bran entered the past again at the heart tree near the wall to see shortly after Jon was born.

Wouldn't that be cool!!?? I was saying to Tony the other night that in *some* way, Sam is going to end up being a huge hero. The total underdog who saves the day....

Summer start for next season and only 7 episodes https://www.yahoo.com/tv/game-throne...161311053.html

We have a long wait! How will I survive? :D

The night of is really great