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I luv my pups 01-04-2006 10:31 PM

I am so upset
 
Hello everyone, I haven't been on for a couple weeks, I have been so busy. But I had to get on and tell you all what is going on.
My son Joran is 12 and is in the 6th grade. Today when I was getting ready for work I found a note up on top of the medicene cabinet and so I grabbed it and read it, it about broke my heart, I broke into tears!!
On the outside it was folded up it said "go to hell joran" I opened it up and it said
I Choke u (picture of a face with hands choking it)
I stab u (picture drawn of a face with a knife in it)
I bury you (picture of a grave and a shovel)
but I take u out
I butcher you (Picture of a stick man with his tounge out and a butcher knife going into his chest)
Put you in a box ( picture of a head in a box)
bury you again ( picture of a box, headstone, and shovel)
The headstone reads RIH Then under that it says rest in hell.

All the pictures are drawn by a kid, and they are not a very good speller, they spell bury barrie, and Choke Chocke.

I cried all the way to work. Joran first acted like he had never seen it before and he wasn't happy with me going to the school. Which didn't really matter anyway, they acted like I was over reacting. I am a single mom and my boys are the most important thing in my life and when I read something like that I am going to over react.
They said they will file it away in a drawer?????? What is up with that!!
I was there at 7:30 this morning and then decided to call his teacher after school at 3, she hadn't even heard about it. This just upsets me so bad. She said Everyone Loves Joran!! Which makes me happy but there is someone out there that doesn't like him for some reason. I am having the hardest time trying to get him to open up, he seems to have so much sadness and anger built up inside. It breaks my heart, my eyes hurt so bad from crying all day.
Well thanks for letting me talk about this, it is so disturbing, I can't sleep, I should try to get to bed, I have to be up in a few hours!! Ugh... going to be another long day tomorrow.
Have a good night everyone and please say a prayer for us!!

Mom if you read this maybe you can scan it and attach a picture of the note, my scanner is broken. I just can't get over how graphic it is.

Melissa

reneernc 01-04-2006 10:45 PM

In this day and time I would be quite upset too. Have you considered taking it to the school board or to the police? You can never be too careful and I would want to be sure there is a record of it.
Good luck
Renee

StewiesMom 01-04-2006 10:50 PM

This is so heartbreaking. I think Renee's advice is good - you should definitely go to the school board and maybe even the police. Does your son know who wrote it? If he does, I would go to their home and speak with their parents. My older brother used to have a lotta problems in school and when my mom would go talk to parents, it seemed to help a LOT.

Best of luck to you, Melissa. I hope you can get something resolved.

chloeandj 01-04-2006 11:04 PM

I agree with Renee too, I would be very pushy about it. Hugs to you, I would be as upset as you. And I'm sure it is very frustrating to know something is going on and he doesn't want to talk about it. Just a thought, do you think he would like to speak to a counselor or somebody like that, sometimes talking to someone outside of family and school helps.

cheryl000 01-04-2006 11:20 PM

Girl, you step on every TOE up IN that school! Don't be afraid to be pushy. You have every right to be angry. Threats like that SHOULD NOT be taken lightly nor should they be tolerated at that school. They should have been doing an investigation pulling kids out of that classroom, calling parents, pulling that teacher out and getting a report from your son about how he obtained that note. I am sorry, but I have a son too, and I would be just as up in arms. Maybe you should go to the PTA as well if you feel like the school isn't doing enough. I would even go to the police. Your son should feel safe at school.
Counseling sounds like a good option, maybe if you can get in there with him as well. 12 is a hard age, he is almost ready to become a teenager, and I'm sure he feels like he has nothing in common with you. Maybe you could make quality time with him and take him out for pizza and talk to him. Tell him about how serious this is and how you're worried about him. Let him know how much this note has upset you. Sometimes if you share something honest and sincere to a person, they share something back.
Please keep us all updated on how this turns out. I'm sure your son has someone in mind who did it. Maybe his girlfriend's ex? I would definately get all over that school board to take it seriously. If they can show the kids in the school how serious it is, the kids will tell most likely tell on whoever did it. I'm so sorry you and your son have to go through this. I hope you're able to resolve it soon and end up with the benefit of a closer relationship with your son.

Latuya 01-04-2006 11:43 PM

Your poor son. I had a problem with my youngest daughter not too long ago with a bully that lives on the next block over. I shared our story here too,, if you care to read it, here it is,,,,,,, http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12860 She not only tormented her here but at school too. This bully was a big girl and for what ever reason just did not like Val. I noticed a big change in her. She didn't want to go outside, she would act funny when I dropped her off at school and I can just tell something was not right. When I would ask her if something was wrong, she would say no and that she just didn't feel like playing. I over heard her talking to my older daughter and she was really scared of this bully. She did want to tell me because she thought it would make the bully even more mean. I so know how you are feeling!!! In our case my daughter took care of it herself and although I don't condone fighting,,,,,, she showed this bully that she was not going to take it anymore. The bulling did stop. Along with Val showing her that she was not going to take it anymore and a nice long chat with her parents, the problem was taken care of!

I do wish you luck. These days you can never be too careful and this kid who wrote this letter sounds really sick and full of hate. I hope the school does something about it. I will pray for your son.

Connie 01-04-2006 11:56 PM

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Joran is my little grandson and he is the sweetest little guy...he is rather on the shy side, quiet, not the kind of kid who would do something to make an enemy...never a problem in school and well liked by classmates and teachers. Teachers always tell his mom they wish all the kids were like Joran and there'd never be a problem! Anyway, I just wanted you all to know the type of boy he is. Also, Melissa failed to mention that he found this note in his locker...someone had put it in through that air vent deal.

I am also upset. I can't believe in this day and age, they do not take something like this very serious! They need to get to the bottom of it and find out who this very troubled kid could be! I figured it would be the school's responsitility to get the police involved in this since it is a threat and a personal threat to Joran...with his name on it and placed in his locker. I just can't believe they are so aloof about it!

Here's scans of the note...the one with his name was written on the outside of the note which was folded up.

Latuya 01-05-2006 12:06 AM

OMG how disturbing!!!! I am so sorry your grandson is going though this. My heart goes out to him.

cheryl000 01-05-2006 12:09 AM

I know in my school there were cameras in the hallways where it could see all of the lockers. Maybe you could ask the school if there's a possiblity it could be on tape? I think you should get the police involved and call the super attendant.
That is the worst kind of threat, a death threat. It should be taken seriously this day and age where kids can get ahold of weapons and take them to schools. Some schools are naive and they don't seem to take any precautions against students bringing in weapons and such. I don't mean to scare you, it just angers me how your son's school is acting like this is just a note and nothing more.
I really hope that it is resolved quickly. You'll have to explain to your son about your actions. He will probably be afraid of being made fun of at school his mother "making a big deal" over it. Just talk to him about the seriousness of it all, you are just worried about his safety, and want to stop this person from dropping any other notes. Good luck

Latuya 01-05-2006 12:15 AM

Lockers? My poor kids don't have lockers in their schools. Most California schools don't have lockers anymore. That's how bad it's getting. It's really sad!

I luv my pups 01-05-2006 03:15 AM

You guys are great
 
I just wanted to say I just read all the replys and you guys are all so wonderful!!
I am going to try to get something done about this, we have a friend that was a detective and he suggested that I keep pushing the school to try to find out who did this, he said to tell them that if they don't do something we will have to involve the police. Joran acts like he is fine but I know he isn't. It is such a hard job being a mom!! Don't get me wrong I love being a mom but it is just so hard sometimes!
I don't have time now to reply to everything that you wonderful people wrote but I will try to tonight, I have to get ready for work... Wish I could just stay home today and not get out of bed!!
Joran swears he doesn't know who wrote the note, I don't want to keep pushing him because I know it bothers him even though he says it don't. Well everyone have a wonderful day and I will keep you updated, thanks again for all your replys, I love this place it is like one big family.
Latuya - I am glad that the bully has stopped bugging your daughter, that is just awful. Kids can be so mean. The way you describe your daughter it reminds me a lot of Joran, He is really quiet and laid back, I hope he will open up, I am going to talk to his doctor and see if there is anyone he suggests that would be good for Joran to talk to.
He is so mad at me for telling the school, he wouldn't even talk to me last night, but by bedtime he finally was smiling and laughing again....
I wish life didn't have to be so tough, kids shouldn't have to go through this!!

Well here I go again, I have to get ready for work, so I am going to go for now but Thanks again everyone.... And thanks Mom for scanning the pictures!!

Melissa

I luv my pups 01-05-2006 03:18 AM

Wow no lockers huh... Do they have to carry all their books around all day?? That would be heavy for them to lug around. The principal told me "don't worry, i have seen notes before and nothing every happens" I was so mad I told her well I don't want my son to be the 1st!!
I just wish they were taking it more serious.


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Originally Posted by Latuya
Lockers? My poor kids don't have lockers in their schools. Most California schools don't have lockers anymore. That's how bad it's getting. It's really sad!


I luv my pups 01-05-2006 03:30 AM

Picture of my Boys....
 
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Here is a picture of my boys, Joran is 12 and Terrell is 7.
Joran is an animal lover!! Can you Tell??? ha ha :) He loves animals, I think he will be a vet when he grows up!!
The picture of them with the clowns I love!! Those are some friends of ours and they are so much fun!!
I just wanted to share some pictures of my sweet little boys!! Here I am I have to get ready for work... Ugh... Ok, I am really going this time... I just can't get going this morning...

Have a good day everyone!!
Melissa

Bentley&BitsysMom 01-05-2006 03:47 AM

I am so sorry you are going through this!!! I cannot believe the school told you that they have seen notes like this before and nothing ever happens. I have two boys myself, age 20 and 9, and I know how it is to be a single Mom and it's not easy! 12 is a hard age for boys...they don't want to look different or be singled out and it's perfectly normal that he thinks you are over reacting. I would not let this go either and I would notify the police. If the school has this kind of attitude over this kind of threat, which is different than just getting a note that says I'm gonna beat your up after school, I would certainly notify the police and let them know. No child should have to go to school and be afraid, and even though he may not appear to be afraid or bothered by it I"m sure he is. How sad for children the world we live in today. The child that wrote the letter needs some serious counseling and if I werre his mother I would want to know what was going on. I've prayed for you and your son and hope you keep us posted. Hugs to you.

Bentley&BitsysMom 01-05-2006 04:04 AM

Also meant to add that your boys are precious!!! I love the last pic where they are together and have their doggy shirts on! Very sweet :) Hope you have a good day at work and a peace in your heart that passes all your understanding :)

bkessler 01-05-2006 04:19 AM

Wow.. Your boys are adorable..What sweeties.. Anyway, I agree that you should go to the school board or police for this case.. No child should have to be bullied like that.. its horrible.. Does Joran's school have a bullying program... As a PE/Health teacher in the inner city, I make sure to cover the topic of Bullying... I think you should talk to his health/PE teacher and see if they cover that topic.. If not, I can recoomend some websites I use with my students about bullying.. Good luck

JHurtt 01-05-2006 04:21 AM

What Jerks!
 
I am so sorry for you, your son, and your family as I am sure this is affecting everyone! What an awful and disturbing note! I agree, you are not overreacting at all......it is the school that is not reacting quick enough! With all of the problems that have occured in schools throughout the nation, it is amazing to me that a school would shrug this off so quickly! I mean the LEAST they could have done was at least notify his teacher so that she could keep a close eye on your boy! :mad:

I too would go to the school board and the police. I also would threaten the school that if they do not do something, I would go to the media. Of course, I probably would never actually do that.....but no one likes bad publicity and that might kick their butts into gear! Please keep us updated and I will keep you all in my prayers.

wendybee 01-05-2006 06:15 AM

has your boy told you who has written this, because if one of my sons had written that especially at 6 years old it would of worried me that they new to do it.
if i was you id be on to the school all the time until they did do something about it, how dare anyone write such disturbing things to a young boy he must of been frightened, the parents of the letter writer need to know what there child is up to keep us informed

wendybee 01-05-2006 06:18 AM

ment to say your boys are lovely and what a lovely picture of the two together

DaisyMaesMom 01-05-2006 06:24 AM

You have EVERY right to be upset. I have a 13 year old in the 7th grade and it would kill me too if I found something like that. If you don't get the satisfication that you want from the school go to the school board for your county. Did you try asking your son if he gets along with this kid. Sometimes, although, I still don't understand why kids have a very strange since of humor. I've never seen anything like that, but my son and his friends are quit mean to each other occassionally.. Please, if you don't feel happy go above the schools head. This is not something to just sit on in this day and age... Hope this helps!

centralnewyorki 01-05-2006 06:24 AM

Wow, your sons are adorable! They are going to be some fine looking men when they grow up! Could it be a case of jealousy? If teachers and his peer like him and he sounds like a well-rounded child, could it be a less-popular child at school? Perhaps you could ask Joran if there is anyone that he doesn't talk to much that could do this. Has he beat any kids in contests? Gym class? The note is disturbing, but it's even more disturbing to think that the school isn't investigating it. I would definitely call the Superintendent, Board Members, President of the PTA, police, etc. If nothing is still done, call your local paper- I'm sure they would be interested to know that the school isn't doing all it can to help create a comfortable environment for all of its students. I could better understand the school taking the note lightly if it just said "I hate you" (or something like that), but whomever wrote this note is obviously disturbed. A child should not be thinking or threatening these types of actions. Good luck finding this little punk.

YorkieLady 01-05-2006 06:31 AM

I, too, am a single mom of a soon to be 10 yr old son, Jordan. I would be livid if I had found something like that directed at my child. You did right by going to the school, but I would not stand for "putting it away in a file" and that was it. I would be making tons of phone calls and making appointments to anyone that would listen.
My son is very active in baseball and there has been a recent "splitting" of the team he was on and this one kid that used to be on the the original team that is now on the "new" team - has started picking on Jordan and he, too, tries to act like its no big deal when I can tell it is. Its so hard to know that are kids may be going through something at school when we can't be there to protect them. Jordan told me about one MINOR incident with him and this other kid and I could just see myself walk into class the next morning and pull this other kid up by his ears and give him a good shaking! lol :mad:
I hope you get this matter resolved-- and quickly. I'll be thinking about you and please keep us posted on what's happening.
Your boys are both CUTIES. You'll have the beat the girls away with a stick, you know that , right?? ;)

YorkieRose 01-05-2006 06:31 AM

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I would very calmly go back to the principal and simply tell him/her that you have made them aware of this note. If in the future any harm comes to your child you will get a lawyer and sue the principal, teacher and entire school district....that ususally gets their attention. I would make sure the police has a copy of the note also.

yorkieangel 01-05-2006 06:38 AM

You need to take the note to the police! if nothing else HEY will contact school and parents to get to the bottom of things.

My son in 7th grade had a similar experiance recently. I was sitting home and the phone rang. It was the principal wanting to know if my son was home from school yet. I said yes and asked why. he said it had been brought to his attention that my son had been talked about in a note passed around that the teacher found. It stated a date , time and place my son would be killed. it also listed a person as the executioner and how it would happen.!!!! The principal also said I was to bring my son to school myself until this was straightened out since it involved the school and a person from the school. My son DID know about the note and DID know who wrote it but asked me not to get involved because he would be embarassed. WRONG!!!!!! The principle contacted the other boys parents AND also made a police report because he felt it was THAT serious!!!! The boy was suspended and the police also talked to the other family stating it was not something to be taken lightly if their son thought such a thing was a joke!!!!!. Turns out it was a newer student who nobody knew that welll so who knows what the kid was trying to do!!!!!!!!
My only anger with the school was that the TEACHER had found the note and turned it into the office later, but then LET my son leave for the day .... the note stated he was going to be killed outside that day going to the bus :eek: . What the hell was wrong with that teacher for leting him go to the bus by himself!!!! I don't blame the principal as the teacher did not turn the note into the office until the children had left that day. I just thank the principal for calling me immediately and checking to make sure my son was OK as soon as he found out!!!!!

waistfull 01-05-2006 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose
I would very calmly go back to the principal and simply tell him/her that you have made them aware of this note. If in the future any harm comes to your child you will get a lawyer and sue the principal, teacher and entire school district....that ususally gets their attention. I would make sure the police has a copy of the note also.

I agree :thumbup: :thumbup: If my daughter ever came home from school with a note like that first thing is: blow up!! okay then calm down and make sure you talk to your son. It is so important to keep the lines of communication open. Of course I would make a couple of copies of the note and send them to the teacher, the principal, the board of education and yes the police. You never know what could happen. I'm sure nothing will, but as parents, we need to do everything we can for our kids.
Have you Talked with your son calmly and told him that some kids are unhappy and do these things to try and make themselves feel better. Maybe the kid is jealous or mean because of something he/she is going through.
I am so sorry this has happened to you. We are all here for you and please keep us updated as to what is happening with this.
Your kids are adorable!

shecass 01-05-2006 06:56 AM

I'm so sorry, this just breaks my heart. You step on as many toes as it takes at the school, school board, police whatever it takes to get to the bottom of this. I'm telling you, if this were my son nothing on earth could stop me from getting to the bottom of this.

Kids are so cruel. I'm glad that this is something that I have not had to deal with and hopefully never will. Please keep us informed.

txshopper73 01-05-2006 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose
I would very calmly go back to the principal and simply tell him/her that you have made them aware of this note. If in the future any harm comes to your child you will get a lawyer and sue the principal, teacher and entire school district....that ususally gets their attention. I would make sure the police has a copy of the note also.

Something else to add to this. The principal won't do anything about it??? Fine, you go above his/her head. You take it all the way to the top if you have to by going to the super intendant. I assure you, they will not take threats like this note lightly.

Whoever wrote this note is a VERY troubled child and needs counseling. In the mean time, talk to people at the administration building, GO UP THERE if you have to.

Best of luck!

Brutus'mama 01-05-2006 07:12 AM

So sorry about this! This kind of stuff scares the you know what out of me. I am such a lunatic when it comes to my kids! I would not let this go until they do something about it!

It's so hard being a parent these days. My son is only 6 and I worry about him being bullied. He's been in Karate and I'm hoping that in the next few years he'll be a black belt.

You sons are so handsome. Good luck with this!

cchu 01-05-2006 07:17 AM

Oh No!! How can any child be so cruel?? My thoughts are with you and I hope the school punishes the student that wrote that. Your boys look very sweet and they only deserve the best!!

Good Luck!

chewysmom 01-05-2006 07:22 AM

This is just awful! As a mother myself, I would just be beside myself right now. Something like this should not be taken lightly. This note is a death threat plain and simple. You should take the note to the police and contact the school super intendant like Kimberley suggested. I would also make a copy of the note to keep just in case something happens to the original. The teachers and the principal should meet and analyze the writing on the note; they may be able to find out who wrote it just by comparing handwriting.

Whoever wrote this is seriously disturbed and needs help. I would call for an immediate investigation into this matter. The school is legally obliged to address this situation. Believe me, the author of that note will be identified and I would take it to the full extent of the law including demanding that he be removed from the school.

Your poor son! The amount of stress he must be feeling is probably so overwhelming. I know that you will be giving him all the love in the world and helping him through this scary situation. Please keep us up to date on what is going on.


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