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capt_noonie · 08-07-2013, 08:22 PM

Woman Accused of Cruelty After Refusing Dog Surgery

When I read the title, I thought, wow what a horrible owner. But after reading, I really think the ER vet was out of line. FYI the dog is alive, though the article doesn't say how or what happened. Poor guy.

McheleM · 08-07-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by capt_noonie

Woman Accused of Cruelty After Refusing Dog Surgery

When I read the title, I thought, wow what a horrible owner. But after reading, I really think the ER vet was out of line. FYI the dog is alive, though the article doesn't say how or what happened. Poor guy.

It says the dog was hit and dragged by a car.

capt_noonie · 08-07-2013, 10:24 PM

No I mean after they left the vet. It doesn't say how he survived.

Wylie's Mom · 08-08-2013, 06:36 AM

Wow, just wow. The woman flippin' asked if she could go home and get a check and they said they wouldn't 'allow' it bc she might abandon the dog! Unreal!

Heck, I'd be suing too. I understand, totally, where the vet office was coming from -- but they cannot extort people!

Ellie May · 08-08-2013, 07:14 AM

They can require payment and hold the pet. They were also in the right to have owner sign an AMA form. But they cannot threaten owner when they want a second opinion! Totally crazy. They deserve to be sued.

Many a HBC pup doesn't even require surgery.

Verbena · 08-08-2013, 07:19 AM

Wow I really feel for that woman

Wylie's Mom · 08-08-2013, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May

They can require payment and hold the pet.

What does this part mean? Does it mean a vet can hold a pet under certain circumstances?

Ellie May · 08-08-2013, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

What does this part mean? Does it mean a vet can hold a pet under certain circumstances?

It may vary by state, but yes. Pets are property, so it isn't considered any different than holding a car or computer after fixing until payment is received. Here is CA's law:

Frequently Asked Questions - California Veterinary Medical Board

They can also tack on boarding fees.

jp4m2 · 08-08-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

What does this part mean? Does it mean a vet can hold a pet under certain circumstances?

I know someone who's cat was being held by a vet for payment. She called the police and the vet was told he can't do that . It was a civil matter so he had to file a court claim, but no holding a pet as collateral allowed here.

gemy · 08-08-2013, 11:31 AM

Ontario courts award compensation for emotional distress associated with the loss of a pet

An appeal won, with-in it states Contrary to popular belief pets are not considered property that would exclude pain loss suffering.

Lovetodream88 · 08-08-2013, 11:31 AM

The vet could have been worried she was going to just take the dog home and let him suffer.

Ellie May · 08-08-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gemy

Ontario courts award compensation for emotional distress associated with the loss of a pet

An appeal won, with-in it states Contrary to popular belief pets are not considered property that would exclude pain loss suffering.

It will be interesting to see if that decision influences US judges.
There are many veterinarians here who would be very displeased if that happened, as they should be.

gemy · 08-08-2013, 12:32 PM

For me this is a hard one. I think good arguments can be made on all sides of the issue.
I don't want to see vets get stolen from; ie folks not paying, and ditching their animal on the vet; I also don't want to see some-one being told they can't go home to get a cheque. That seems a little un-fair.

Nancy1999 · 08-08-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gemy

For me this is a hard one. I think good arguments can be made on all sides of the issue.
I don't want to see vets get stolen from; ie folks not paying, and ditching their animal on the vet; I also don't want to see some-one being told they can't go home to get a cheque. That seems a little un-fair.

Yes, and we are only hearing the woman's' side. So many "human" hospitals have closed all over the country, I would hate for this to happen to our animal clinics.

08-07-2013, 08:22 PM	#1
capt_noonie www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County Posts: 17,408	Woman Accused of Cruelty After Refusing Dog Surgery Woman Accused of Cruelty After Refusing Dog Surgery When I read the title, I thought, wow what a horrible owner. But after reading, I really think the ER vet was out of line. FYI the dog is alive, though the article doesn't say how or what happened. Poor guy. __________________ The T.U.B. Pack! Toto, Uni, & Bindi RIP Lord Scrappington Montgomery McLimpybottom aka El Lenguo the Handicapped Ninja 10-12-12

08-07-2013, 10:24 PM	#3
capt_noonie www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County Posts: 17,408	No I mean after they left the vet. It doesn't say how he survived. __________________ The T.U.B. Pack! Toto, Uni, & Bindi RIP Lord Scrappington Montgomery McLimpybottom aka El Lenguo the Handicapped Ninja 10-12-12

08-08-2013, 06:36 AM	#4
Wylie's Mom Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 35,889 Blog Entries: 2	Wow, just wow. The woman flippin' asked if she could go home and get a check and they said they wouldn't 'allow' it bc she might abandon the dog! Unreal! Heck, I'd be suing too. I understand, totally, where the vet office was coming from -- but they cannot extort people! __________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann \| Pfeiffer \| Marcel Verdel Purcell \| Wylie \| Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨°

08-08-2013, 07:14 AM	#5
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	They can require payment and hold the pet. They were also in the right to have owner sign an AMA form. But they cannot threaten owner when they want a second opinion! Totally crazy. They deserve to be sued. Many a HBC pup doesn't even require surgery. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

08-08-2013, 07:19 AM	#6
Verbena Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: with my flying monkeys Posts: 15,620 Blog Entries: 7	Wow I really feel for that woman __________________ Teri . . . Galen Jameson Frazier Seraphina Luna Rosencrantz, Saber Tooth Tiger, Pussy Willow Pandora Guildenstern

08-08-2013, 11:31 AM	#10
gemy YT 2000 Club Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Huntsville,Ont,Canaada Posts: 12,340 Blog Entries: 2	Ontario courts award compensation for emotional distress associated with the loss of a pet An appeal won, with-in it states Contrary to popular belief pets are not considered property that would exclude pain loss suffering. __________________ Razzle and Dara. Our clan. RIP Karma Dec 24th 2004-July 14 2013 RIP Zoey Jun9 th 2008-May 12 2012. RIP Magic,Mar 26 2006July 1st 2018

08-08-2013, 11:31 AM	#11
Lovetodream88 Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md Posts: 23,249	The vet could have been worried she was going to just take the dog home and let him suffer. __________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart!

08-08-2013, 12:32 PM	#13
gemy YT 2000 Club Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Huntsville,Ont,Canaada Posts: 12,340 Blog Entries: 2	For me this is a hard one. I think good arguments can be made on all sides of the issue. I don't want to see vets get stolen from; ie folks not paying, and ditching their animal on the vet; I also don't want to see some-one being told they can't go home to get a cheque. That seems a little un-fair. __________________ Razzle and Dara. Our clan. RIP Karma Dec 24th 2004-July 14 2013 RIP Zoey Jun9 th 2008-May 12 2012. RIP Magic,Mar 26 2006July 1st 2018