Zimmerman acquitted

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by Britster

I am not saying Zimmerman should've got off scot-free, or is totally innocent in this, but, obviously this neighborhood has a crime problem and people were (rightfully) already very wary in general. Zimmerman already had the frustration of losing a snooper because police took too long. A week later, that snooper and a friend rob a resident. That would be frustrating to anyone, I think. One of the burglars isn't arrested. So a couple weeks later he sees someone who maybe matches the same description acting suspiciously. You can't necessarily blame him.

Look at this thread and my post at the bottom of this thread and the link to the article about the Chicago police not even responding to break-ins and thefts these days at the bottom of my post.

My sister got so exhausted and ill from no sleep and fear, she was too ill to even visit her husband in the nursing home for a time and he took a turn for the worse without her daily visits and he stopped eating, had to be tube-fed, got an infection. Burglaries and break-ins can create terrible, long-lasting problems when they start in an area and sometimes police are too busy to do much until it gets very bad. My sister could have been killed had she awakened when those people were in her house. She'd have reached for her gun I'm sure and they probably would have beaten her or killed her. Many of those neighbors carried guns and had them at the ready as they patrolled during that time because they openly discussed it with her when they called and told her what all was going on. One of the items stolen from my sister was a golden church pendant my brother in law has bought my sister for a church he'd funded in a remote Mexican village through their church in her name. It meant so much to her and she loved it.

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[msyorktown]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

He said he did not continue to follow Trayvon. Do you know how easy it is to die from having you head whacked against the pavement? Would it have been the same way if Trayvon had killed George that way? Minors can fight and kill just like and adult.

From what I understand Taylor, he did continue to follow him...that would make sense bc had he not continued to follow him, Trayvon may still be alive today.
Yes I do now how quickly one can die from a head injury....and yes I know minors can and do kill....Zimmerman approached him....he was the aggressor, he pulled the trigger....the aggressor pulled the trigger...that's all i'm saying....a young man dead at the hands of his aggressor....he may not pay for it with jail time...but he will pay, he has to live with what he has done....Trayvons family now has to live without their son...bc Zimmerman killed him.

[Mom of 3]

I don't know where any of you live, but I do live in Florida, and Sanford is a rough town. I have lost 2 family members, to killing, and being strangled in Sanford. Both my family members are white, the people that killed them are black. Now with that being said, the Apartment complex is terrible. Not only cars getting broke into, sex offenders, breaking into houses, peeping toms, everything. It is so bad they needed to have a person, which Zimmerman was appointed to be the neighborhood watch. I don't have someone watch over my neighborhood. I live near a school. But that area is bad. George had called in so many things before all this happened, about kids, people looking like they all wanted to do something. 17 year olds these days, in Sanford, are not innocent. Not in Sanford. Why the whole world had to get involved, I don't know.........Unless YOU live there, and know how bad it can be, you have no idea. My kids had to go to school in Sanford. Fights all the time. I am not saying I am glad he is dead, I am very sorry he is, and for his parents. But he needed help years ago, and never got it. Both sides suffer. Travon's parents, and Zimmermans family. Life will never be the same.

[Britster]

Originally Posted by Mom of 3

I don't know where any of you live, but I do live in Florida, and Sanford is a rough town. I have lost 2 family members, to killing, and being strangled in Sanford. Both my family members are white, the people that killed them are black. Now with that being said, the Apartment complex is terrible. Not only cars getting broke into, sex offenders, breaking into houses, peeping toms, everything. It is so bad they needed to have a person, which Zimmerman was appointed to be the neighborhood watch. I don't have someone watch over my neighborhood. I live near a school. But that area is bad. George had called in so many things before all this happened, about kids, people looking like they all wanted to do something. 17 year olds these days, in Sanford, are not innocent. Not in Sanford. Why the whole world had to get involved, I don't know.........Unless YOU live there, and know how bad it can be, you have no idea. My kids had to go to school in Sanford. Fights all the time. I am not saying I am glad he is dead, I am very sorry he is, and for his parents. But he needed help years ago, and never got it. Both sides suffer. Travon's parents, and Zimmermans family. Life will never be the same.

More than 40 people have been shot in the city of Baltimore since the end of May. Nearly 150 since the beginning of the year. Most of these black on black crime. Why are we not outraged over this? Why does this not get media coverage?

If people want to bring race into it, fine. Anyone remember this girl? New Jersey authorities say girl was strangled by teen brothers for parts of her BMX bike | Fox News Probably not.

She was brutally murdered by 2 punks (who were black) over bike parts. She was a defenseless, innocent girl with no history of any kind of trouble -- 12yrs old. She was brutally beat and killed and stuffed in a ******* trash can.

This was 2 black boys who could have stolen a white girl's bike but instead chose to BRUTALLY MURDER her. Where was justice in the media? What celebrities showed support and tribute to this little girl when she was murdered? I don't see Lil Jon, Beyonce, or anyone else wearing a "Justice for Autumn". But if the races were reversed this would probably be considered a Hate Crime. Sorry but racism works in both ways.

Oh and let's see, anyone remember hearing about this innocent young little white boy who was also brutally murdered by two 14 year old black teens. 14!! for no reason? Two teen boys arrested in shooting death of Georgia infant in stroller | Fox News Again, probably not. WHERE IS THE MEDIA OUTRAGE IN THIS.

I am not saying Trayvon's life wasn't worth anything, or worth fighting for, but this happens EVERY DAY and I really don't even understand why it became such a national issue.

[ladyjane]

Because the man walked out without anything being done. They knew who to go to...and if it were your son, Brit, I am sure that you would have used every resource to get publicity and get this tried in a court of law. I know that I would have!!!

No one said: Oh, let's help this family and no one else. It's the old adage: The squeaky wheel gets the oil.

[Britster]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Look at this thread and my post at the bottom of this thread and the link to the article about the Chicago police not even responding to break-ins and thefts these days at the bottom of my post.

My sister got so exhausted and ill from no sleep and fear, she was too ill to even visit her husband in the nursing home for a time and he took a turn for the worse without her daily visits and he stopped eating, had to be tube-fed, got an infection. Burglaries and break-ins can create terrible, long-lasting problems when they start in an area and sometimes police are too busy to do much until it gets very bad. My sister could have been killed had she awakened when those people were in her house. She'd have reached for her gun I'm sure and they probably would have beaten her or killed her. Many of those neighbors carried guns and had them at the ready as they patrolled during that time because they openly discussed it with her when they called and told her what all was going on. One of the items stolen from my sister was a golden church pendant my brother in law has bought my sister for a church he'd funded in a remote Mexican village through their church in her name. It meant so much to her and she loved it.

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Chicago Police Will No Longer Respond to Burglaries or Robberies | FrontPage Magazine

Thanks I missed your post. I can't even imagine how scary it would be. And I honestly don't know what I'd do in that situation either.

[Mom of 3]

I just don't understand why this got So much National attention on the news. Like it has been said on here, Chicago, there are killings everyday. Little kids (12 years old) getting killed over a bike. This is so sad!! Do you hear about it? No!
Maybe in Chicago, not much here in Florida. New York city had protesters, California, Texas, Florida, just all over. I know the pain, I guess I just don't understand why all over the world.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Mom of 3

I just don't understand why this got So much National attention on the news. Like it has been said on here, Chicago, there are killings everyday. Little kids (12 years old) getting killed over a bike. This is so sad!! Do you hear about it? No!
Maybe in Chicago, not much here in Florida. New York city had protesters, California, Texas, Florida, just all over. I know the pain, I guess I just don't understand why all over the world.

Because they knew who to contact! As I said in my other post, if it were MY son, the whole freaking world would have known about it. I would not rest until.

[msyorktown]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Because they knew who to contact! As I said in my other post, if it were MY son, the whole freaking world would have known about it. I would not rest until.

Exactly!!

[Mom of 3]

I guess we were all so , hurt, and grieving so much, over the death of my niece, that we didn't get National attention. I now raise her child, without a mother. Sorry, I've said too much here.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by Britster

Thanks I missed your post. I can't even imagine how scary it would be. And I honestly don't know what I'd do in that situation either.

And more and more, like that Chicago article says, the police don't intend to do a thing about break-ins and theft in that city.

Chicago Police Will No Longer Respond to Burglaries or Robberies | FrontPage Magazine

Too busy with violent crime and traffic problems so citizens are feeling more and more left to their own devices, I guess. My sister just lives in a small upscale bedroom community near Dallas where a lot of lawyers, doctors and a couple of NFL players live and her police department told her they could do nothing but what they did, make a report for the insurance company, park nearby during the day at time for a while and that sergeant privately visited her on his own time. But her police department was fine with neighborhood watchers following suspicious youths out walking around in the neighborhoods - encouraged it as they also didn't have time to do more than they did when it was quiet.

I am glad though that there is going to be a lot of conversation about race and attitudes of stress between the races. There is still so much outright racism in America and a lot of fear between the races. I hope some common ground and something good can come out of this tragedy that finds a kid dead and his killer as good as dead.

[marcie]

Originally Posted by Mom of 3

I guess we were all so , hurt, and grieving so much, over the death of my niece, that we didn't get National attention. I now raise her child, without a mother. Sorry, I've said too much here.

That is so sad. My heart breaks for you.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by Mom of 3

I guess we were all so , hurt, and grieving so much, over the death of my niece, that we didn't get National attention. I now raise her child, without a mother. Sorry, I've said too much here.

I am so sorry for your family. There are tragedies every day in this country that devastate our citizens' lives but sometimes attention is just given to one case if political leaders/media/celebrities think it can get them some votes, readers/viewers/fans and PC points. Doesn't seem fair but even if you had been a squeaking wheel, if the right people that the media want to cover don't get on board with your squeaking, nothing comes of it. You could blow your wheel up and if the right types don't want to rush to your aid for their own reasons, they won't. Not fair but that is the culture we live in now - media driven. Again, I'm so sorry for your and your family's loss and pain.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by Mom of 3

I just don't understand why this got So much National attention on the news. Like it has been said on here, Chicago, there are killings everyday. Little kids (12 years old) getting killed over a bike. This is so sad!! Do you hear about it? No!
Maybe in Chicago, not much here in Florida. New York city had protesters, California, Texas, Florida, just all over. I know the pain, I guess I just don't understand why all over the world.

Were their killers arrested?

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by Mom of 3

I guess we were all so , hurt, and grieving so much, over the death of my niece, that we didn't get National attention. I now raise her child, without a mother. Sorry, I've said too much here.

My heart breaks for you and your family. I am so sorry YOU and YOUR family did not get crowds of angry people that are soooooooooo justice minded, that "all they want is fair and equitable justice for one of their own." I am certain YOUR family members were TRULY innocent and doing no harm to anyone....there are those of us who may not walk in your shoes, but we clearly understand MOST of the circumstances and events in that area, that led up to what happened to Trayvon.....I have a couple of friends from work, whose families live in and near Sanford....and they have echoed exactly what you have said. "Unless you live there, you have no idea how bad it can be.....". These are the people that told me they pray "now that now the trial is over, all the history about this "innocent child" will come out....there is no innocence here....and the people of that community are under seige."
God bless you for raising your neices child...how tragic for her and for your family.