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RileyDC 01-09-2013 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Carmeow (Post 4099463)
So I've been in a relationship for 5 years. Before me, when he still lived with his parents, Tony said he always kept his room extremely clean. We've lived together for a year and honestly I really feel completely miserable sometimes. Why? Because despite the fact that I am in love with him, I feel like I'm almost "doomed" to a life with a total freaking spoiled, lazy brat. His mom did all the cleaning. I mean ALL of it. His parents got divorced because his dad is disabled and his mom felt trapped and smothered.

Like I beg Tony to help around the house. He will help, but only after I'm about to cry because im so frustrated. He does nothing until I ask him. We have talked about it many, many times. I go on and on telling him how I feel and he sits there and finally says "What doyu want me to say?" And then I'm crying again because...he's just...not a man...he needs to grow up because I am not his mom and I feel like I have to be. Otherwise our housoe is a wreck. He lets dishes and trash pile up, he NEVER EVER changes Lumas potty pads...I do both of our laundry...I have to remind him to take a shower. Seriously. I am living with a child. I don't know how much more I can take.

Why is he like this? His mom did everything for him. Don't even get me started on anything to do with money. He acts so annoyed when I want him to split the cost of something with me. His grandparents pay our rent and his tuition. I pay the electricity. He buys groceries but we fight every single time we go to the store over how much we can spend. Idk what his problem is. He's 21. All he does is play videogames and leave a mess. His only responsibility is to write the damn check for our rent and he even screws THAT up, forgetting to write the check even though I remind him and even write it on a calendar. Like really?

Please, someone tell me how I can get him to grow the F up. Sorry, I am just totally at my wit's end...I'm sorry to complain...I just needed to vent and I know most of you here are older, married or more experienced women.

Okay.... That is just FILTHY GROSS!!!!

I AGREE with brezofleur: "Relationships should absolutely be 50/50. Maybe 55/45, but definitely not 80/20 and god forbid 90/10."

You are not going to change him. Especially if you are getting that type of response from him when you try and talk to him about it. It’s True! What do you want him to say?? This is who he is. I don’t think it is a matter of Growing Up! This is what he is used to. This is how he was raised.

It is as if you have reached a fork in the road… which way do you choose to go? If you truly believe that he is your lazy, messy soulmate and you decide to accept him then you need to accept that this is what You have chosen… what you are signing up for. Also, if this is what you chose, then you shouldn’t be talking about it in any bad way in the future. That just isn’t fair to him.

A co-worker of mine is going through something similar.
It has started affecting other things between them and as much as she Loves him, she literally Dreads coming home to the point where she Immediately gets thrown into a bad mood when she sees his car in the driveway. Sad!

I think you have got a lot of good advice here… - I do wish you luck with whatever you decide.

msyorktown 01-09-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RileyDC (Post 4100256)
Okay.... That is just FILTHY GROSS!!!!

I AGREE with brezofleur: "Relationships should absolutely be 50/50. Maybe 55/45, but definitely not 80/20 and god forbid 90/10."

You are not going to change him. Especially if you are getting that type of response from him when you try and talk to him about it. It’s True! What do you want him to say?? This is who he is. I don’t think it is a matter of Growing Up! This is what he is used to. This is how he was raised.

It is as if you have reached a fork in the road… which way do you choose to go? If you truly believe that he is your lazy, messy soulmate and you decide to accept him then you need to accept that this is what You have chosen… what you are signing up for. Also, if this is what you chose, then you shouldn’t be talking about it in any bad way in the future. That just isn’t fair to him.

A co-worker of mine is going through something similar.
It has started affecting other things between them and as much as she Loves him, she literallydriv Dreads coming home to the point where she Immediately gets thrown into a bad mood when she sees his car in the eway. Sad!

I think you have got a lot of good advice here… - I do wish you luck with whatever you decide.

This was me...I literally put the car in reverse and left...he was home, I dont want to be there...knew a fight was waiting for me, for whatever reason!
Good luck in whatever you decide!

yorkietalkjilly 01-09-2013 09:52 AM

Do you love Tony so much that you are willing to accept him, his good qualities, his love for you and provider potential along with this and any other disappointing qualities?

LilAnnCamp 01-09-2013 10:08 AM

Ha... Yes... Touching the basket!!

Yes, by no means I was telling her to leave him. Sometimes it is just depressing when there never seems time for each other. My husband is fasting from his Xbox for 21 days. Last night was the first night of him being upstairs with me. I don't know if I can take 21 days of the extra noise upstairs!!

GuinnessStout 01-09-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LilAnnCamp (Post 4100357)
Ha... Yes... Touching the basket!!

Yes, by no means I was telling her to leave him. Sometimes it is just depressing when there never seems time for each other. My husband is fasting from his Xbox for 21 days. Last night was the first night of him being upstairs with me. I don't know if I can take 21 days of the extra noise upstairs!!

Heck I wish mine would use his PS3 or Xbox where I could at least feel as if my money was well spent :p

Micah my love 01-09-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GuinnessStout (Post 4100416)
Heck I wish mine would use his PS3 or Xbox where I could at least feel as if my money was well spent :p

I love it :lol tears you are to funny

LilAnnCamp 01-09-2013 01:18 PM

Alisha is the funniest person on YT!

lovespandp 01-09-2013 01:19 PM

I wonder why Carmen hasn't posted anything- Seems odd to me- you ask for that kind of advice and you don’t respond?? Maybe it was overwhelming for her?

Carmeow 01-09-2013 02:04 PM

Yes, it has been overwhelming. I'm sorry I haven't responded to everyone. Thank you to everyone who offered me advice here and in PMs. We had a very, very long talk last night. I think we will be okay if he keeps showing me that he's trying. Not just long enough to get out of jail free, but for the long run. I kepttelling him I wanted him to promise me things would change, but he is afraid to break a promise if he doesn't live up to my very high expectations. I just wanted him to know that I dont WANT to feel like his mother, but right now I do. It won't happen overnight.

I don't care who gets mad at me for not immediately breaking up with him. I came here pointing out the negatives but it isn't the whole picture, and its not an accurate portrait of who he is. I have to admit that I have thought for a long time that I may be struggling with OCD. I've never admitted that, even to myself, that it may be pretty serious case of it. Old habits die hard I guess but you can change habits if you keep working at it. I think I'm very hard on him and he puts up with it. I love him for that reason. So I should love him for his flaws too.

rubymoon2072 01-09-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmeow (Post 4100651)
Yes, it has been overwhelming. I'm sorry I haven't responded to everyone. Thank you to everyone who offered me advice here and in PMs. We had a very, very long talk last night. I think we will be okay if he keeps showing me that he's trying. Not just long enough to get out of jail free, but for the long run. I kepttelling him I wanted him to promise me things would change, but he is afraid to break a promise if he doesn't live up to my very high expectations. I just wanted him to know that I dont WANT to feel like his mother, but right now I do. It won't happen overnight.

I don't care who gets mad at me for not immediately breaking up with him. I came here pointing out the negatives but it isn't the whole picture, and its not an accurate portrait of who he is. I have to admit that I have thought for a long time that I may be struggling with OCD. I've never admitted that, even to myself, that it may be pretty serious case of it. Old habits die hard I guess but you can change habits if you keep working at it. I think I'm very hard on him and he puts up with it. I love him for that reason. So I should love him for his flaws too.


bingo thats what i am!! i was and still am but a softer version. nothing is perfect enough because i will not allow myself to actually believe i did a good job. im very hard on myself and those around me. i strive for this ridiculous perfection that doesnt exist! im better in my old age but he has put up with me!! lol

so glad you guys talked thats what best friends do! hope the tomorrows remind him to strive for the ocd we are trying to reduce!! :D becoming complacent is something that all long term relationships need a reminder not to allow. :rolleyes:

lovespandp 01-09-2013 02:26 PM

Why wouldn’t you give the accurate portrait of who is was..? I think you are making excuses for him- Once again you are blaming yourself. Those aren’t flaws he has- its laziness. You having to remind him to shower… that’s a flaw? Doing 95 % of the work is a flaw? Him not taking responsibility for him..that’s a flaw? Him looking at Luma’s pee pad- knowing it needs to be changed and not changing it.. that’s a flaw?? No- you are very blind in this. You are making big time excuses for him- You really need to get your self esteem up, and work on yourself- if not he will continue to bring you down. How are you hard on him? He doesn’t do anything and gets away with it? He isn’t going to change because he has been like this for 5 years- of course he will tell you everything you want to hear today/ last night… Girl 5 years down the road when he hasn’t changed and you are still doing 95% of the work you will be sick of it- You wanted mature advice- women who have been there done that- you get tons of advice, a handful of women have told you how it will be and you still make excuses for him—Not good- I will pray that you get the strength to stand up for yourself and get that self esteem that you are lacking. You should never settle for that- You can be so much happier in your life-

RileyDC 01-09-2013 02:35 PM

Ohhh I hope people don't get mad mad at you for not immediately breaking up with him!! I see it as Nothing but Laziness and Filth! :rolleyes: He can't make any Promises to you because he knows what he wants to and does not want to do. Again, Laziness! I don't know which is worse... The Shower... or the peepad thing! or the dishes... or the trash!! Goodness!!

You are making your bed... only you will have to lay in it... it is nobody else's decision. Just don't complain about it or talk bad about it to anybody besides a therapist, going forward. It's not fair to him!

I just thank the lord I don't have self esteem issues!!

Ella08 01-09-2013 02:46 PM

Nobody can get mad at you for not breaking up with him. It's your life you choose to live it as you please. But promises mean nothing, he can promise anything until he's blue in the face. Instead it's all about his actions. He obviously will not change overnight, but he cannot be forced to change either. He needs to have the desire to change, in order to change. The hardest thing to realize is the only person you have control over is yourself.

brezofleur 01-09-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ella08 (Post 4100691)
Nobody can get mad at you for not breaking up with him. It's your life you choose to live it as you please. But promises mean nothing, he can promise anything until he's blue in the face. Instead it's all about his actions. He obviously will not change overnight, but he cannot be forced to change either. He needs to have the desire to change, in order to change. The hardest thing to realize is the only person you have control over is yourself.

:thumbup::thumbup:

KazzyK810 01-09-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil Sis (Post 4100159)
I do think life is seen through different glasses. What I mean is, if I am in a bad mood (having a pity party so to speak) I could tell you my life story and make you cry. I would focus on the sad events the negative. It would be true but is it the whole story? If I am in a great mood and told my life story (same life) it would sound happy...challenging events at times of hardship but a lot of happiness and blessings. Which is the truth?

:thumbup:
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Originally Posted by Carmeow (Post 4100651)
I came here pointing out the negatives but it isn't the whole picture, and its not an accurate portrait of who he is.

I totally get that when you're bitching about something/someone only the bad stuff comes out, and it's not a complete picture.

I think some people are being waaaayyy too hard on you....taking the snippets of your life that you are revealing, and then assuming based on their own personal situations/experiences that they know your WHOLE situation.


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