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04-28-2011, 12:42 PM | #1 |
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| Genealogy, and deciphering a will Has anyone here had experience doing genealogy of their families? My family is traced back to the mid-1700's, but I am trying to trace back further now. We know a lot of details of everyone from their arrival in Canada, but I am now trying to trace back in England. The furthest back we had so far was the father of my ancestor who came to Canada. But we just knew the father and mother's names. I contacted a woman in the records office in the town they came from, and she pointed me in the direction of a university that held records. Well, what do you know, I found his (the father's) will! I ordered a copy and had them email me a scanned copy as well, which I got today. First of all, it's the neatest thing ever to see my ancestor's perfect old style writing from 1759! But it is really hard to read It is in great condition and really neat handwriting, but there are phrases, words, and whole sections that I just don't understand. I've forwarded it to the lady in the records office, hoping she can make sense of it, but honestly I'm not sure how soon I will hear from her. A month ago she wasn't sure how I could pay (they don't accept credit cards there), and she wasn't going to start work on anything until I could pay her. I have tried getting in touch with her, just to find she was on holidays, and I am leaving for there in 3 weeks now. I was hoping she would have had my information done before we left! Anyways, I'm just wondering if anyone can help me out, if anyone has any experience with this kind of thing! I just really want to be able to decipher and understand this will! The old English is beautiful, but frustrating!
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04-28-2011, 01:30 PM | #2 |
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| I have heard that the Mormon Tabernacle Church has the best geneologies and old history on families going. Can't recall what the show was but it was something like Dateline that was doing a geneology or something on a person and they went there to their records department and they were so unbelievably in depth on all family names, lineages, etc. - and I don't think it was just this country. Later, I read a novel that involved visiting Salt Lake and digging into the church's stacks for info on a family and all things old at the time so they might be a resource. Just Google LDS or Mormon church and geneology, etc., and see what you get. Good luck!
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04-28-2011, 02:07 PM | #3 |
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| Thanks! I did find the family search website and I can find dates of births and christening locations, but my ancestor had a very very very common name so it's tough to know which one is the correct one! My biggest issue is just reading this will. There are things like, he gives his nephew "all my moiety or half-part and all and every other my part of parts and share or shares of audiu (??) the good ship or (word I can't understand... thofsell??? looks like???) called the Martha and Mary" ... and that is one of the clearer parts! It seems he had a ship, or part ownership of a ship called Martha and Mary? Or I'm totally getting it wrong. And "Fifthly, and whereas my Dear Wife is now (supposed??) to be onsiont (???) or with child now in case she is now onsiont of one child thou I give and decide all my said freehold estate and lauds at (Beadnoll??) aforesaid/charged and chargeable and aforesaid and also all other my freehold estates whatsoever and wheresoever to furh (?? first?) child whome it shall be born and to it heirs forever." This is a long will! This is going to take me awhile
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04-28-2011, 02:13 PM | #4 | |
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04-28-2011, 02:21 PM | #5 |
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| Thanks for the idea, I'll try that! It is really neat! He left his wife an annual sum of "forty pounds of lawfull money of Great Britain" He was a wealthy man, a non-working "gentleman" (one step below knight) who was probably a land owner who made money off renting the land. His son must have been a little more adventurous because he became sloopmaster and eventually captain of some ships for the Hudson Bay Company which is huge in Canadian history From there we had many surveyors who laid out Canada's first settlements, and even the 49th parallel! It is such an interesting history, but really, I wouldn't mind living the high life in England instead of working my butt off here Did they really have to give that up? I was pretty amazed when I discovered that!
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04-28-2011, 02:30 PM | #6 |
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| That is all so fascinating to somebody like me. I don't blame you for wanting to know all about it and I hope you can find one of those scholors working there who is dying to share all his/her knowledge of the zeitgeist of the times with you. And who knows - maybe you have kin in England and you all can start emailing, etc. I agree that living the good life sure beats 9 to 5!!! My husband was sooo into his family geneology, even though he was adopted.
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04-28-2011, 06:07 PM | #7 |
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| RootsWeb: PACHESTE-L [PACHESTE] Reading old English wills -1500s to 1700s How to Read 18th Century British-American Writing GenealogyandFamilyHistory.com Blog Archive The Challenge of Handwriting Cyndi's List - Handwriting & Script Lindsey, I hope these links will help you.
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04-28-2011, 06:09 PM | #8 | |
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04-28-2011, 06:11 PM | #9 |
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04-28-2011, 06:14 PM | #10 |
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| Ha!!!!! Don't we all. Still, you do pretty darn good!
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04-29-2011, 05:18 AM | #11 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | I love stuff like this, love it! I'm obsessed w/ British History and read about it in some form or other, every day. The nuances in the writing back then (and the structure) can be very tough to decipher, compared to our writing. But how COOL that you have actual documents!!! I've looked at different ancestry search things....but never know which one I should go with to help me find my ancestry info.
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04-29-2011, 05:40 AM | #12 | |
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04-29-2011, 07:38 AM | #13 |
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| THIS Examples of how the "leading s" looks in old documents had been screwing me up so badly! Most of the s's look like f's
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04-29-2011, 08:37 AM | #14 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member | What started as a school project for my daughter....had me tracing our family back to England. Isn't it all fascinating? You can find lots of info on line, unfortunately quite a bit is "incorrect" because...as you learned...someone can't read the name correctly so it gets mis-spelled. The more original documents you have at your disposal...the easier and better it is for you.... Here's the mormon site and I also used genealogy.com. Not certain how much Canadian information the mormon site has. Mormon Church (LDS) Genealogy / Geneology Records Genealogy.com - Family Tree Maker Family History Software and Historical Records
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04-29-2011, 08:40 AM | #15 |
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