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my2boyz 04-15-2011 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by roseylovestosho (Post 3501307)
Educating a person against child labor was not the point of the person's post. She was making fun of someone for not being able to afford $400. Those are two completely distinct things.
I didn't say it was the point...just saying you can have those things and not pay a fortune for them. I would never make fun of anyone for what they can afford...it's not my way...but after reading how children are abused in some of those factories I will always take the opportunity to try to educate.

Once again...I've been misunderstood...I give up.

tjdmom 04-15-2011 11:53 AM
I know how you feel and I have someone at work who is a little like that. She always has to have the expensive purses and the expensive car and house and I know it's because she feels so inferior that having those things helps her feel better about herself so mostly I just feel sorry for her and try to tell her that those of us in the office love her without those things but I don't think she really hears me. :( My sister has donney & burke (is that even spelt right) purses and I was going to but one once and went to macy and it was over $100 and I thought, how can I spend money like that on a purse when there are children starving in the world and couldn't bring myself to buy it. Not critisizing those that do, but if I have a $100 I choose to buy my $20 bargain purse and give the rest to someone who really needs it..... But also feel sorry for those that think an expensive purse or expensive anything makes them better cause that's just plain sad. :(

Ringo1 04-15-2011 01:31 PM
Oh, I get that shoved in my face all the time by one of my family members. Even in High School, when her mother was poor - she STILL had to have all brand names this and that. In high school, I cared even less than I do now.

Now she is married and a wealthy SAHM and it's Coach purse this and Coach that; you name it ~ she has it and is MORE than willing to show it off. Everything she has is better than what YOU have.

Yuck.

roseylovestosho 04-15-2011 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by my2boyz (Post 3501445)
I didn't say it was the point...just saying you can have those things and not pay a fortune for them. I would never make fun of anyone for what they can afford...it's not my way...but after reading how children are abused in some of those factories I will always take the opportunity to try to educate.

Once again...I've been misunderstood...I give up.
Not exactly sure why you are so offended. I was just reiterating the fact that this person (AKA not you) is someone who is thoughtless and clearly very vain and tactless. I wrote response to your comment about child labor under my other comment--which I guess you didn't read.

yorkietalkjilly 04-15-2011 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by roseylovestosho (Post 3501329)
I will also like to add another point about child labor, even though I'm sure that I will get tomatoes thrown at me...

Every single developed country (i.e., United States, Western Europe, etc) engaged in child labor during the Industrial Revolution. Child labor laws developed only after these countries were in good enough economic standing to afford protecting children. No other country interfered with enforcing child protection laws, in fact every developing country did it at its own pace. The countries that are now engaged in child labor are now in a similar process where they are undergoing their own Industrial Revolution and are following the steps of other currently developed nations. I know that it sounds absolutely awful, but it is not right to interfere with the economic progress of other countries, simply because we can. In fact, I was forced to watch a documentary on child labor in my economics class and one country that banned child labor in order to appease Western nations is now the country with THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF CHILD PROSTITUTION. Look, I am not saying that it is right to allow children to work in factories, but to take away the choice to work in a factory, is FORCING children into prostitution as the only alternative to make money, eat and survive If given the chance, these countries will go through the same process as other countries and they will develop economically, and eradicate child labor in their own timeline, just like we did. In the mean time, I don't think we should force other countries to end child labor.

Please take the time to think about what I've posted, and do your own research about child prostitution. If you were in their shoes, what would you choose?
I have read a newspaper piece about the unintended consequences of strongly enforced child labor laws and what happened when they prevented the factories and small shops from working the children long hours in horrible conditons, even though that country had hardly any social programs to take up the slack. So many of the little children starved to death, became slaves or prostitutes to try to get some money for food.

roseylovestosho 04-15-2011 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 3501630)
I have read a newspaper piece about the unintended consequences of strongly enforced child labor laws and what happened when they prevented the factories and small shops from working the children long hours in horrible conditons, even though that country had hardly any social programs to take up the slack. So many of the little children starved to death, became slaves or prostitutes to try to get some money for food.
Thank you for succinctly and eloquently summarizing my post. I've always been nervous about posting about this topic.

My lil friend 04-15-2011 03:15 PM
This thread has been interesting,,, my 2ish cents worth.,Ya cannt take it with ya! The only name that really brings me joy in my clothing,purses and other accessories is mine. The joy of creating in my mind what I want and figuring out how to make it is far greater than even the finished product. The joy I get from gifting some of my creations to friends is greater than anything to me,except my family.
To leave a mark of joy on someone else instead of hurting their spirit for the purpose of making oneself feel bigger is a much bigger blessing to yourself. My heart hurts for the person that feels they are better than others because of what they own,because when you get right down to it,you cannt take it with you.
If I am very lucky in eternity I will have my family and past pets surround me.

boopster 04-15-2011 03:31 PM
This convo reminds me of when I went to college decades ago. My school had a reputation for being full of rich spoiled kids. I was pretty spoiled but not rich and was totally clueless about designer labels. To me, a purse was something you spent maybe $10 to buy. My neighbor in the dorm showed up with a designer purse, which I didn't recognize as such - I thought it was ugly two-toned brown, looked more like plastic than leather, and didn't understand why you would want somebody's initials all over your stuff. Needless to say, she never tried to impress me with how rich her daddy was again.

I still don't want somebody's initials all over my luggage, or on my rump, for that matter.

roseylovestosho 04-15-2011 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by boopster (Post 3501667)
This convo reminds me of when I went to college decades ago. My school had a reputation for being full of rich spoiled kids. I was pretty spoiled but not rich and was totally clueless about designer labels. To me, a purse was something you spent maybe $10 to buy. My neighbor in the dorm showed up with a designer purse, which I didn't recognize as such - I thought it was ugly two-toned brown, looked more like plastic than leather, and didn't understand why you would want somebody's initials all over your stuff. Needless to say, she never tried to impress me with how rich her daddy was again.

I still don't want somebody's initials all over my luggage, or on my rump, for that matter.
What's sad is that the particular bag that she is bragging about cost her $800 and the quality is so poor that the glazing on the bag's leather straps start peeling within less than a month's use. So...ha ha.

ArmaniMan 04-15-2011 04:29 PM
Was this on a handbag forum or a dog forum?!

Some people are just looney- but this person probably has no friends, no life, nothing, aside from her "things".

roseylovestosho 04-15-2011 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ArmaniMan (Post 3501732)
Was this on a handbag forum or a dog forum?!

Some people are just looney- but this person probably has no friends, no life, nothing, aside from her "things".
No not a dog forum. Doubt she can take care of another living thing besides herself. :rolleyes:

capt_noonie 04-15-2011 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ArmaniMan (Post 3501732)
Was this on a handbag forum or a dog forum?!

Some people are just looney- but this person probably has no friends, no life, nothing, aside from her "things".
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Originally Posted by roseylovestosho (Post 3501736)
No not a dog forum. Doubt she can take care of another living thing besides herself. :rolleyes:
I was just gonna ask the same thing! I think it's the purse forum for sure. Those women are so........ fill in the blank.

I haven't been back since........... ugh I hate them. They are not "ladies" for sure. They are the types to buy a tiny pup from a pet shop to carry around in a $1000 designer bag as a status symbol. :thumbdown

J_is_my_initial 04-15-2011 11:14 PM
LOL. My take on spending so much for a purse: If I spent a lot on a purse, I would not have anything to put in it. My dtr is always fussing at me. I like to change purses when I get tired of them or they get too messy inside. I always look on the clearance racks at stores. I am usually out of season all the time. If I spend more than $15 for a purse i feel bad.

Lisa and Pic 04-16-2011 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 3501218)
It's always weird to me when people are more concerned with the external than the internal. But then again, I suppose something awful may have happened to them in order for them to be stuck in their growth...which can be tough to move through.

Pretentiousness stinks, doesn't it? It's sometimes those who cannot afford luxury items who seem the most concerned with them :rolleyes:. When you can afford them, they kinda lose much of their appeal, ya know?
:thumbup: I know you said this at the beginning of the thread Ann, but just think it is such a wise thing to say.

Along that same line ... my brother said something wise to me after his car was stolen and he had time to reflect. He said, "Never love something that can't love you back." That really made me think and I have honestly tried to incorporate that into my life.

cally930 04-16-2011 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Lisa and Pic (Post 3502430)
:thumbup: I know you said this at the beginning of the thread Ann, but just think it is such a wise thing to say.

Along that same line ... my brother said something wise to me after his car was stolen and he had time to reflect. He said, "Never love something that can't love you back." That really made me think and I have honestly tried to incorporate that into my life.

OMG! I love that. Will definitely remember to use this.

Thanks for sharing.

marcie 04-18-2011 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisa and Pic (Post 3502430)
:thumbup: I know you said this at the beginning of the thread Ann, but just think it is such a wise thing to say.

Along that same line ... my brother said something wise to me after his car was stolen and he had time to reflect. He said, "Never love something that can't love you back." That really made me think and I have honestly tried to incorporate that into my life.
Well said.

JMuedog 04-18-2011 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisa and Pic (Post 3502430)

Along that same line ... my brother said something wise to me after his car was stolen and he had time to reflect. He said, "Never love something that can't love you back." That really made me think and I have honestly tried to incorporate that into my life.
Wow, never thought about it this way.... hrmmmm

I'm going to have to rethink my "love" for alot of things....

Lisa and Pic 04-19-2011 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JMuedog (Post 3505377)
Wow, never thought about it this way.... hrmmmm

I'm going to have to rethink my "love" for alot of things....
I know what yo mean... I decided to do that too, after he said that.

celstu1 04-19-2011 06:23 AM
After my ex broke up with me and I had to sell my house, cancel my wedding and get over it.... he bought me a coach purse (yes, after we broke up) and he said something like it would be the only coach I would own. After that I went on a shallow streak and bought everything 'expensive' I could. I HAD to prove to myself that he was WRONG about that. That I would make it on my own and could be successful and have whatever I wanted.

NOW I'd rather spend my money on experiences than material items. I'd rather take a trip, see some part of the world. Or go out to dinner with friends or family and enjoy good company.

roseylovestosho 04-19-2011 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 3505679)
After my ex broke up with me and I had to sell my house, cancel my wedding and get over it.... he bought me a coach purse (yes, after we broke up) and he said something like it would be the only coach I would own. After that I went on a shallow streak and bought everything 'expensive' I could. I HAD to prove to myself that he was WRONG about that. That I would make it on my own and could be successful and have whatever I wanted.

NOW I'd rather spend my money on experiences than material items. I'd rather take a trip, see some part of the world. Or go out to dinner with friends or family and enjoy good company.
What an utterly revolting person he is.

gidget529 04-19-2011 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 3505679)
After my ex broke up with me and I had to sell my house, cancel my wedding and get over it.... he bought me a coach purse (yes, after we broke up) and he said something like it would be the only coach I would own. After that I went on a shallow streak and bought everything 'expensive' I could. I HAD to prove to myself that he was WRONG about that. That I would make it on my own and could be successful and have whatever I wanted.

NOW I'd rather spend my money on experiences than material items. I'd rather take a trip, see some part of the world. Or go out to dinner with friends or family and enjoy good company.
You dodged a bullet when that wedding got cancelled!!! Much better guys out there more worth your time and love!;)

chachi 04-19-2011 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 3505679)
After my ex broke up with me and I had to sell my house, cancel my wedding and get over it.... he bought me a coach purse (yes, after we broke up) and he said something like it would be the only coach I would own. After that I went on a shallow streak and bought everything 'expensive' I could. I HAD to prove to myself that he was WRONG about that. That I would make it on my own and could be successful and have whatever I wanted.

NOW I'd rather spend my money on experiences than material items. I'd rather take a trip, see some part of the world. Or go out to dinner with friends or family and enjoy good company.
What a terrible person your Ex is. You are much better off without him

celstu1 04-19-2011 07:08 AM
Yeah, he was pretty harsh... to him, he was doing me a favor by pointing out my fashion cluelessness. He was very materialistic. My guy now is the total opposite. Seriously I need to buy him clothes that are not from 1980 bc he will still wear them if they don't have holes! Even then, it might depend on where the holes are! LOL He also has NO clue about brand names or costs of things. If he likes something he likes it, no matter if it came from Saks or Walmart! :) I love him!

IamMiasmom 04-19-2011 07:27 AM
I will weigh in on this one. I never believe I am any better than anyone else on earth for sure. I tend to go and say I am going to go buy something, go look at it, feel it, and say nah can't justify it. Tend to not purchase because well, it is things. They cannot love you back. If it is something someone needs or a safety item we tend to say whatever is the best but not because of a label. Too many people get wrapped up into things. IF I had oodles of money there are so many people I could help! I am successful in my industry and feel very blessed but very saddened to meet people who flaunt and think they are the best of the best. Just remember beauty is inside and requires no fancy labels and costs frankly nothing.

JESSY_RN2B 04-19-2011 07:46 AM
So stupid. I can afford a real bag but choose to buy 20 knock offs in diff colors. Name brands dont make who I am.

On the same token I see people on foodstamps and welfare who chose not to work only buy high end stuff. Doesnt make them rich or better either but proves though shall not judge a book by its cover.

Lisa and Pic 04-20-2011 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 3505679)
After my ex broke up with me and I had to sell my house, cancel my wedding and get over it.... he bought me a coach purse (yes, after we broke up) and he said something like it would be the only coach I would own. After that I went on a shallow streak and bought everything 'expensive' I could. I HAD to prove to myself that he was WRONG about that. That I would make it on my own and could be successful and have whatever I wanted.

NOW I'd rather spend my money on experiences than material items. I'd rather take a trip, see some part of the world. Or go out to dinner with friends or family and enjoy good company.
Aren't you glad he is out of your life forever? Sounds like a horrible person in retrospect.

celstu1 04-20-2011 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Lisa and Pic (Post 3506894)
Aren't you glad he is out of your life forever? Sounds like a horrible person in retrospect.
Oh yeah... I was so blindly in love with him. So young & naive when I met him, even at 28 when we broke up.... I was still so naive when it came to him.

I have to say though, with brand names or expense, comes quality (most of the time). I am not one to buy 20 of something. I'd rather just buy 1 that lasts me 20 years! :D Some things I buy brand name, some things I don't. I care more about the fit of the brand name than the actual brand name. I love CK jeans and INC (macys) jeans bc they fit my body shape very well. Unfortunately they are not cheap! :( But I have CK jeans that are 10 years old and still look good, so to me it was worth the $$!

chachi 04-20-2011 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 3506990)
Oh yeah... I was so blindly in love with him. So young & naive when I met him, even at 28 when we broke up.... I was still so naive when it came to him.

I have to say though, with brand names or expense, comes quality (most of the time). I am not one to buy 20 of something. I'd rather just buy 1 that lasts me 20 years! :D Some things I buy brand name, some things I don't. I care more about the fit of the brand name than the actual brand name. I love CK jeans and INC (macys) jeans bc they fit my body shape very well. Unfortunately they are not cheap! :( But I have CK jeans that are 10 years old and still look good, so to me it was worth the $$!
My Husband is that way too he doesnt buy for a name but quality. He buys Tilleys shirts and pants and they last for years and they dont wrinkle. I buy my clothes everywhere. I might buy something from kmart or I might buy it from Christopher and Banks. I just buy clothes that I like and will wear. But I dont buy into a style either so I keep my clothes untill I just tire of them which is years.

capt_noonie 04-20-2011 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JESSY_RN2B (Post 3505768)
So stupid. I can afford a real bag but choose to buy 20 knock offs in diff colors. Name brands dont make who I am.

On the same token I see people on foodstamps and welfare who chose not to work only buy high end stuff. Doesnt make them rich or better either but proves though shall not judge a book by its cover.
A friend of mine is a checker at a supermarket. She seems OC housewives using an EBT (foodstamp) debit card to pay for their groceries, while carrying an LV bag and keys to a Mercedes! Now there is really something wrong with our system here!:mad:

BTW, please don't buy counterfeit knockoffs. They are linked to drug trafficking, child labor, and terrorism. Now styles that are "inspired" by designers, like copying just the style, but not the actual name and trademarked logo is not.

Lisa and Pic 04-20-2011 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 3506990)
Oh yeah... I was so blindly in love with him. So young & naive when I met him, even at 28 when we broke up.... I was still so naive when it came to him.

I have to say though, with brand names or expense, comes quality (most of the time). I am not one to buy 20 of something. I'd rather just buy 1 that lasts me 20 years! :D Some things I buy brand name, some things I don't. I care more about the fit of the brand name than the actual brand name. I love CK jeans and INC (macys) jeans bc they fit my body shape very well. Unfortunately they are not cheap! :( But I have CK jeans that are 10 years old and still look good, so to me it was worth the $$!
I always think my bad experiences have made me a better person in the long run and I bet you feel like that now, too. I was certainly naive in my 20's and wish I had not chosen a few of the men I did, to date, for long periods of time. Now I say... What was I thinking? Ha.

As far as name brands... just wanted to add I have nothing against them. Lots of people have lots of nice things and I am happy for them. Shoot, I am sure I have way too much stuff too. However, it is the near worship of material things or placing too much importance on this stuff that I find so awful. (or even comical if I am being honest :D)


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