Censorship ?

[ryorkies]

In all fairness since some members seem to be able to post whatever they please without being censored I thought I would post my opinion, out in the open, where others who may have chosen to disregard the threads in question will see and not miss.
The threads in question are labeled by the posters as fun and they believe that we ( the general members) should not be offended because we can always press the ignore button, or disregard the thread altogether. Okay, I understand that concept and have done so in the past , but those were threads that were filled with drama and not very pleasant, but certainly not obscene or questionable to young impressionable eyes.
These particular threads in question are borderline, if not completely , obscene and most certainly blue in color. Yes, I can ignore them and disregard them, but there are families who have been visiting this forum for years without having to worry about such things and have always considered Yorkie Talk a safe venue for their children to enjoy the breed and to find information on how to care for them properly. Maybe I am in the minority, but I find these threads offensive and I do believe that if admin allows this type of conversation it should be put in a " safe " section away from children, or a disclaimer should be posted. Certainly not listed in BIG CAPITAL LETTERS ( as one is titled ) for inquisitive children to see and click on.

Last, but not least. I have just as much right to a clean and healthy forum as you do to your " adult " one and last time I looked ..... this was a Yorkie Forum.

[jackson25]

I do understand your points, however if children are on this forum to look at pictures and gather yorkie information, I don't really see why they would be looking at an "off topic" thread. I have been a member here for quite sometime and very rarely enter the off topic threads. One thing I like to say is, "it may not be my cup of tea, but maybe another will enjoy it"!

[patty58]

Well said Janie

[shodanusmc]

You are asking for censorship? Freedom of Speech, the first Amendment. You have over 203,230 Threads to pick from, and yet you are singling out a threat on the Off Topic Discussion. It was suggested that if you have a problem with one, write to Dear Admin, and request that if it off color it be deleted. Personally, it is my opinion, and mine only, that you are making too big of a deal out of it. I have not seen any kids post here. Maybe we all need a double secret password and handshake to get in here. I am not back in a Catholic Military School, not am I 10, nor am I dead. What's next, you want to take away my weapons and hunting priveledges?

Let's be friends?

[shodanusmc]

Originally Posted by jackson25

I do understand your points, however if children are on this forum to look at pictures and gather yorkie information, I don't really see why they would be looking at an "off topic" thread. I have been a member here for quite sometime and very rarely enter the off topic threads. One thing I like to say is, "it may not be my cup of tea, but maybe another will enjoy it"!

I do. What can I say, I am an adult

[jackson25]

Parents SHOULD be monitoring what their children are doing on the internet ALWAYS....not that children should not be allowed on the "off topic", but if a thread is a bit risky, parents should intervene. Public television is out of control in my book, for children.

[jackson25]

Originally Posted by shodanusmc

I do. What can I say, I am an adult

Would you like some bbq sauce to go with that?

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by jackson25

Parents SHOULD be monitoring what their children are doing on the internet ALWAYS....not that children should not be allowed on the "off topic", but if a thread is a bit risky, parents should intervene. Public television is out of control in my book, for children.

I agree computers in the hands of children should have the Nanny program installed. Parents in the true sense of the responsibility should be monitoring their children; I'm a mother and a grandmother. When my grand kids are over. I am watching where they are at on the computer. As well as what they watch on the TV, there are certain channels/programs that are locked.

We have had kids on here, usually their interest is in the Breeding section, waiting for the birth of puppies, or in the Nursery Section. Most are more interested in grooming, training, feeding and in general sharing their yorkie stories.

We have had a couple of kids here that have created havoc; giving incorrect breeding advice.....those kids have been recognized for who they are and brought to light.

[ryorkies]

Last time I looked there was not a " Moderator " written under your user name, yet you seem to think you are running the show.
I have asked admins help to tone things down, or to develop an area for your type of humor that is away from young eyes and those that find it offensive. I did not single out just this one thread as there are many and they are growing by leaps and bounds daily.
I am making a big deal of it because it is time for someone to make a big deal of it. This is a Yorkie Forum and most of us come here to learn and talk about our Yorkies. Yes, there is an off topic area, but I do not believe that it was ever intentionally set up to offend anyone.... until now.

Oh .... trust me, you and I will never be friends.

Originally Posted by shodanusmc

You are asking for censorship? Freedom of Speech, the first Amendment. You have over 203,230 Threads to pick from, and yet you are singling out a threat on the Off Topic Discussion. It was suggested that if you have a problem with one, write to Dear Admin, and request that if it off color it be deleted. Personally, it is my opinion, and mine only, that you are making too big of a deal out of it. I have not seen any kids post here. Maybe we all need a double secret password and handshake to get in here. I am not back in a Catholic Military School, not am I 10, nor am I dead. What's next, you want to take away my weapons and hunting priveledges?

Let's be friends?

[shodanusmc]

Originally Posted by ryorkies

Last time I looked there was not a " Moderator " written under your user name, yet you seem to think you are running the show.
I have asked admins help to tone things down, or to develop an area for your type of humor that is away from young eyes and those that find it offensive. I did not single out just this one thread as there are many and they are growing by leaps and bounds daily.
I am making a big deal of it because it is time for someone to make a big deal of it. This is a Yorkie Forum and most of us come here to learn and talk about our Yorkies. Yes, there is an off topic area, but I do not believe that it was ever intentionally set up to offend anyone.... until now.

Oh .... trust me, you and I will never be friends.

Do your thing. You are correct, you could not pay me to moderate any forum. I wish you the best of luck. The branch was extended, you rejected it. Life will go on. Good luck on your mission. Perhaps you should find a Cloister or Nunnery Forum, that may be more to your liking. When one person try's to force her views on the masses, well, that will not fly. Off topic, pretty easy to understand.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by ryorkies

Last time I looked there was not a " Moderator " written under your user name, yet you seem to think you are running the show.
I have asked admins help to tone things down, or to develop an area for your type of humor that is away from young eyes and those that find it offensive. I did not single out just this one thread as there are many and they are growing by leaps and bounds daily.
I am making a big deal of it because it is time for someone to make a big deal of it. This is a Yorkie Forum and most of us come here to learn and talk about our Yorkies. Yes, there is an off topic area, but I do not believe that it was ever intentionally set up to offend anyone.... until now.

Oh .... trust me, you and I will never be friends.

Janie, I've got to say that I'm shocked at your post, I don't know if something is going on with you, but to say, "trust me, you and I will never be friends", it the type of thing I don't want kids or anyone else to read.

[ryorkies]

This is what you choose to be shocked with? Oh my word....
The things I have seen posted here and this is what shocks you? Dead animals and obscene posts and this is what does it?

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Janie, I've got to say that I'm shocked at your post, I don't know if something is going on with you, but to say, "trust me, you and I will never be friends", it the type of thing I don't want kids or anyone else to read.

[ryorkies]

The last thing I want to do is force my opinion on anyone, but I do have the right to an opinion.
Cloister or Nunnery?
Again, I will reiterate, this is a Yorkie Forum, not an adult Forum, nor a hunting and gun Forum.
Perhaps you got lost along the way????

Originally Posted by shodanusmc

Do your thing. You are correct, you could not pay me to moderate any forum. I wish you the best of luck. The branch was extended, you rejected it. Life will go on. Good luck on your mission. Perhaps you should find a Cloister or Nunnery Forum, that may be more to your liking. When one person try's to force her views on the masses, well, that will not fly. Off topic, pretty easy to understand.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by jackson25

Parents SHOULD be monitoring what their children are doing on the internet ALWAYS....not that children should not be allowed on the "off topic", but if a thread is a bit risky, parents should intervene. Public television is out of control in my book, for children.

I completely agree with you on this. I worked with the school psychologist as his "assistant" (it's more complicated than that) of an elementary school. You'd be surprised the things children know. I grew up with restrictions and rules. Never did I get anything I didn't earn, and that included privileges. My parents are uneducated and know nothing about "modern" life in a city and the types of things children growing up. Yet, somehow they found a way to monitor things like our computer usage, our cell phone usage (I got my first cell phone at 19 and paid for it myself), and what we watched on tv. If they can monitor and control things they didn't understand well themselves, I'm pretty sure all parents are capable of doing the same.

I don't think it's right to censor people per say, but, this is Admin's site. We are merely guests. It is up to Admin whether or not a thread is appropriate and welcome here. If you don't like what is being discussed, you're welcome to move on. If you're utterly disgusted, then you are welcome to report it.

[BaxtersMommy]

Parents who allow their kids to freely surf the net, are idiots. If they are looking for trouble or something dirty to look at, they arent going to click on a Yorkie Forum. I seriously doubt there are very many kids here & if they are, they are certainly not going to read through a 15 page sex thread. Even if they can read, they aren't going to go digging thru threads. I doubt they would come here in the first place because we all know the parent raises the yorkie, so why would they need to come here?You can google yorkies pictures and see thousands of pictures without even going to a site.They dont need or have to come here for pics. Lets not forget they have to "sign up".

Keep in mind the OP who started that thread did so because she was looking for advice. What about sex between married people is nasty or dirty anyway?

I think YT is is doing a good job in moderating the forum and think an Off Topic section is good enough. Parents who are worried about their kids on the net need to block their computers from un approved sites. The parenting should come from home, not yorkie talk. JMO