Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3079974)

You can PM me personaklly, if I cannot answer the question, i will direct you to a safe person to consult with.

Originally Posted by TinyMiss (Post 3080009)

oohh wow.... I'm new here so maybe I shouldn't have opened this forum (hahaha) ... I mean I do agree with you but I have never seen a thread like that before and to hear that it happens a lot and people are afraid to post question makes me not want to post questions myself which is the reason why I even registered... hopefully I get the good answers... if anything I can always delete someone's replies right?

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3079974)

You can PM me personaklly, if I cannot answer the question, i will direct you to a safe person to consult with.

Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 3080010)

:confused::confused: why would you say that ? There's tons of breeders happy to answer questions ...that's only compounding the idea that everyone is mean here and they aren't !!! I know you meant well but if it's posted in that section - others may find that kind of question and answer beneficial to them also -

Originally Posted by TinyMiss (Post 3080009)

oohh wow.... I'm new here so maybe I shouldn't have opened this forum (hahaha) ... I mean I do agree with you but I have never seen a thread like that before and to hear that it happens a lot and people are afraid to post question makes me not want to post questions myself which is the reason why I even registered... hopefully I get the good answers... if anything I can always delete someone's replies right?

Originally Posted by Reese1 (Post 3079942)

Jeanie,

I know I just posted to you, but I saw this after. I don't think people attacked her for not having a job because she was disabled. I'm sorry, but IMO that is twisting things.
People were "attacking" her breeding practices and the reasons given for them. JMO
I think people were frustrated that someone was defending her practices and justifying it because of her being disabled, but please point me to where someone for the sake of being mean just plain attacked her disability?

Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 3079917)

"I see so many people saying they are afraid to post questions. I for one am not."

apparently this is a big problem because it has been posted many many many time

heres some proof that it has become uncomfortable for more..

quote " YT has really changed :( I'm sad by this because I use to really enjoy spending so much of my time here. It used to be such pleasant place. I 100% support educating, but feel there is also a proper way of doing that. Placing others beneath you, surely can't be the way".

"Thank you for taking the words out of my mouth here. I have been watching and wanting to post but I was unsure of how to say what I
ment."

I'm new to YT, and I didn't read the post, but, I have read a few of these comments. I came on here this morning to ask a question.....now, I'm not sure I should ask anything on here!!:confused:

"Several have stated that people are hesitant of asking questions, because they fear being jumped, bashed, whatever.....If questions are asked with good intentions for their dogs, one doesn't have to fear that." again its more proof that people are becoming more and more unwilling to voice their questions for fear of being jumped and of course placing their pups in harms way. "But, if questions are asked and advice is offered and one is not willing to take it, and will do what they are going to do anyway, why post your question. That is when YTers become passionate, angry and things get out of hand." whether they take the advise or not and you never really know, we are behind monitors, just putting it out there is great enough..so "oustiders" might see it and have the answers they need..or memebers to intimidated post can get the answers they need..but we individuals see the "mentors" or their "groupies" bashing people..they will look the other way and NOT read the answers and probably choose NOT to stay, again more puppies/dogs at risk because of the mannerism in the way things were addressed,

again! : These people (the same ones) again and again are the ones who are repeat offenders and it causes others to be scared to post and ask questions which is info that maybe a poor defenseless yorkie might depend on their owner knowing.

"I understand how it can look from the outside, but if you really want to listen to advice, I can't see it turning for the worst."

this is how yt is represented...from out siders, insiders, and people who will never become members or stay members

"have had questionable questions before now and again. Instead of posting a thread that I could foresee as going wrong, instead I pm'd a member or two that I have great respect for and asked their opinion."

"newbies" dont have that option

"I think people should also refrain from using the phrase "if you don't have anything nice/helpful/constructive etc to say you shouldn't say anything at all" when they have been helpful like pages and pages back."

whats sad is you believe that...thats how teachers or are supposed to teach.. and again newbys may not know how to navigate to find that information on here.

". some people seem to not be able to ever let things go.." apparently alot of people cant let it go and a lot of people are standing up and saying something because it just isnt right. and on the note "people cant let it go" the same people "on the other side of the fight" cant either with their "venting" threads

"I find it interesting that certain breeders seem to have an axe to grind with rescuers" no i see this actually switched around rescuers have an axe to grind with breeders..they are fighting the loudest and are typically the first to loose control and get nasty. its wonderful with the rescuers do but it doesnt mean they are better then the breeder and just because you might have cleaned one breeders mess up doesnt mean you can direct all that anger and frustration on other breeders that may have never caused any messes.

"This is all just so ridiculous that people want to malign others....acting all holier than thou. People who live in glass houses should not throw stones"
this is the exact reason why people are "venting" now and what people tried to say on the other thread.

interjecting a quote i liked

"This is a YORKIE forum. No one here is God or Mother Teresa. It is not YOUR job to make accusations to ones character! You can get your point across without being total WITCHES"

twinkie2cute i respected n liked ur post as well..but to long to add :D

here should be another tip for yt administrators to look at and investigate

"every negative/heated post whether it was meant to be negative/heated or not consists of the same handfull of posters."

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3080069)

I am responding to this before reading the rest of the thread. I simply want to say thank you because this is exactly what happened. The man who is not posting here yet today was the one defending her practices and that is who also accused me of insensitivity.

That woman was not attacked the way I see all of this....I said it before...this is SPIN. And, yes, that IS a witch hunt....and the person being hunted is NOT a witch.

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3080073)

No disrespect, but I cannot follow this or the post following it. I stopped trying to read it as I don't know who is saying what.

Please try to use the quote thingy....it really makes things clearer.

There is a way to multi quote as well...but you can only do three at a time.

I am not great in explaining HOW to do it, but perhaps you can ask?

Originally Posted by kjcmsw (Post 3079993)

I think...and we all know what I think is just what I think, to be taken or left --- when someone asks a question...even if the question is phrased in such a way that it appears the one asking isn't highly educated - in Yorkie matters, et al...that those that choose to respond should simply answer the question(s) and try to keep personal opinions on the back burner because their personal opinions are just that, whether those opinions have some basis in fact or not, just answer the question if you know the answer, if not, why respond at all?...unless of course the poster specifies they are not looking for an answer to a specific question and are seeking to hear personal opinions on a matter.
It seems to me that for those that have a deep seated need to express their opinions should post those opinions as new threads in the discussion part and then those that have the same opinions could have a back and forth discussion with them, thus keeping the attacks in check. Throwing in your opinion and not answering the question posted does nothing to reinforce one's professional and educated status on a subject. Also anything beyond the answer unless it is to state a particular stat (absolutely proven as fact) related directly to the question is simply fodder for fools and addresses only the responder's need to keep reinforcing their own beliefs, which presents itself as questionable as to its reliability and basis in fact. Therefore when going beyond just answering the question the responder should also provide a direct reference to their quoted stat if they want your addition to be taken seriously. Think of it as a peer-reviewed paper.
~KC

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3080076)

Nope~she is one of the sweetest people you would ever want to meet but unfortunatly she is away at her cauldron.............ummm wait I meant to say Making Sunday dinner for her family. :p