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As I said, in the first couple of pages of the post, advice was given in a a respectful, informative manner. I for one will never condone breeding without knowledge and breeding to supplement ones income. Have I attacked people, yes, although rarely, but, when I see that they are wasting peoples time by asking questions, get upset when they don't get the advice they want to hear and continue to do what they are going to do. Then come back on and ask for help again...... As stated already: Breeding a female that showed signs of abuse at a year of age and then breeding her again. Breeding females with aggression problems; had drawn blood, killed puppies.....This person is very unprepared. I'm on the side of the dogs....they don't have the ability to speak. |
agreed on the advice that was given 100% and to whoever said I was being intolerant you are exactly right!! I won't ever accept people treating other people with disrespect no matter where it is done period. And no sleep is being lost!! :-) The advice is not what I have a problem with...the way it was given is. There is a difference between being blunt and not mincing words and being disrespectful and out and out rude. |
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I agree w/ Mardelin - that's where I'm coming from as well. I think this thread is presumptive. It infers too much about the original thread that wasn't there, in my opinion. This person, disabled or fully abled, was breeding an abused dog, was not providing a safe environment for these dogs, and was adding more dogs to the mix. THAT was really the issue. Dogs were fighting, puppies died. When a few people made comments saying she should not be using these dogs to make money, those comments, imo, were *not* about her disability - those comments were about the fact that she was *not* breeding safely. For the record, maryeverrett1, I am not blind - but I do find it very ironic and rather insensitive that you would make that kind of comment in this thread. |
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And how am I doing "just what I am complaining about?" I have made no personal attacks on anyone. Attacking what a person says "about their dog" is one thing. Making rude comments about their financial or phyhsical status is as whole different ball game. I am not reopening the discussion sbout her dog This thread is not about whether she did right or wrong by her dog. It is whether the posters did right or wrong, by another individual, by YT, by an entire class of people. |
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Again I'm not condoning anyone for making any rude remarks regarding someone's disability or financial status at all. I didn't do that. How about the question though of disrespect for that poor female though? That was the issue for me. I'm sorry but I don't think the dog deserved that. |
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Blaming or bullying someone simply for the sake of their disability or difference is without a doubt wrong and uncalled for. In that regard I completely agree with you However when one chooses to bring up those types of things in the context of explaining, justifying, rationalizing, or legitimizing other behaviors - particularly ones that have had extreme consequences (there were fatalities...) that is not going to garner much empathy, or respect. IMO |
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I was always taught that one has to "Earn Respect" and it is not a right. |
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Again I'm not condoning attacks on anyone with a disability or for being poor, but I don't honestly see how you can separate out your quote above. I don't think you can say whether posters did right by that individual without the connection of her doing right by the dog. It goes hand in hand because it's what ignited the passion and responses. I'm not going to lose sight of what disturbed me about that situation to begin with because I think it's serious. |
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They were appalling, uncalled for and added nothing to the discussion. It made the posters look bad, it made YT look bad, and the only thing learned from those posts was "WARNINIG!!! Ask questions at your own risk. |
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I know some people are new and don't really 'know' you but you are one of the BEST MODERATORS I've seen on a site. I found that comment off base too because when it comes to putting your personal feelings aside you do a great job. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. I know I personally couldn't do it. |
OMGosh! I'm new to YT, and I didn't read the post, but, I have read a few of these comments. I came on here this morning to ask a question.....now, I'm not sure I should ask anything on here!!:confused: |
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Go ahead and ask your question - and welcome ! |
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