Swine Flu!! Anyone else worried?!?!

[emilyann]

Originally Posted by manolos mom

What kind of a job. Dallas is a very large city...No need to worry....

Well, it's like 10 minutes from Dallas, I think. He installs paint booth systems in factories though. This job is for the government and it's a paint system for the helicopters, or something, that are coming back from Iraq.

Hope that makes sense.

[Ramseymom]

Originally Posted by tsurc

I am not overly worried. I view the mainstream media as the "boogy monster" at times... sending the public into a panic rather than giving them the tools to be prepared.

That's how I feel about it too. The media has to have some big news story to hype up.

Also, I figure, if I'm going to get it, I'll get it. Not that I won't take precautions, but what good is worrying and panicking going to do?

[breezylover328]

its so scary! there are only are 6 poeple in nj who have it but still! it keeps spreading and spreading everyday!

[BellaRose08]

I'm not worried. We take Grapefruit Seed Extract (also known as GSE) when something (illness) is going around and haven't had colds or flu in over two years. We get the tablets at the health food store. Just a good preventive.

[Erin]

Originally Posted by dogbert

Hubby went on a business trip where a hispanic woman sat next to him and threw up all the way to LA. She said she had food poisoning. Yes, I am worried.

Originally Posted by ricosmom

I was scared yesterday. I was at work and had sudden severe abdominal pains, fever, chills, 5 cycles of vomiting and diarrhea..my body quickly dehydrated, my body was cold and I was on the floor abt to pass out..my boss called the ambulance and I was off to the hospital..6 hrs of having IV fluid, vital signs taken, getting a CAT scan..What fun. Then I was told I had a stomach virus..I'm thinking..wow..guess I should be happy it's not the swine flu..Everyone.stay safe..wash your hands..

Originally Posted by LibbieLu08

I'm freaked about this whole SWINE FLU.....!

But so far no news about anybody having it in Wisconsin...THANK GOD!

I love Wisconsin. My parents have a little cabin way up there and I've always got that in the back of my mind when things like this happen!

Just to clarify, since I've been watching news conferences all day

Flu, as in INFLUENZA, is a respiratory virus, not a stomach virus. It amazes me how many people are misinformed about this. I've been watching the news today and I'm happy that they are trying their best to communicate that information. Influenza will hit you quickly, but it is a high fever, cough and/or sore throat, muscle/body aches, etc. It's like a VERY bad cold. It's also possible to have these symptoms and not have influenza. I went from perfectly fine to fever, dizzy, sore throat, trouble breathing, etc. within like 8 hours last winter and I went in for a flu swab test (they swab your nose) and it was clear, so it was just a really bad cold. So, if you think you have this STAY HOME and call your doctor and/or urgent care and they will instruct you where to go for a flu swab. If they confirm flu (any flu, not just H1N1 Swine Flu) they can give you Tamiflu or other anti-virals. But in my experience they will not just give you Tamiflu without a swab So, definitely call and ask what to do! (I hate being sick so I try to be very proactive )

(That's not to say stomach viruses aren't horrible - they are - they just aren't "the flu" I wish we could get away from saying "stomach flu" because it's totally not...)

Also, people are apparently avoiding eating pork?? Again, it's a respiratory virus. Eating pork will not make anyone sick with H1N1.

There are couple reasons this might get pretty bad:

Pigs are very close to humans genetically. That is why they use pig organs for experimental transplants, etc. In the past with the "avian flu" people could pretty much only catch it FROM birds, not so much human to human. Because this strain was in pigs before it "jumped species" there is a better chance that it will easily transmit from human to human. It's more complicated than that, but I am always thankful for my having had an AP Bio class when trying to understand this sort of thing.

The other reason is that this is similar to the 1918 flu in the sense that it is attacking healthy people. Because this is a *new* flu, people with robust immune systems have a significant response to it. It's called a cytokine storm: Cytokine storm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Apparently, that is what happened in 1918 and they think it might be happening again. Typically the flu is most deadly to children and elderly, not healthy adults. So that is why they are watching this so closely.

There are also some reasons it might not get so bad:
Communication and quarantine - like previously said 1400 people isn't a high % of MC and the whole world is preparing for the spread.
Antibiotics to treat secondary pneumonia.
Antivirals like Tamiflu.
Diagnostic tests to identify the spread
We don't know how transmissible this is human to human yet. We know that it is transmissible, but there's a chance it will slowly weaken unless it mutates again. The bird flu fizzled out because it wasn't easily transmitted.

Also, they are saying that the symptoms are very similar to regular flu, not necessarily worse. I think it's odd that it happened in April at the more traditional end of flu season. I don't think anyone knows just what will happen...

Regardless, we need groceries so I'm going to really stock up just in case. They might be over-reacting by closing schools, etc. but why take the chance? I guess the officials got some flack last time for over-reacting to the bird flu but I'd rather be informed! We've only had 1 case in IL so now is a good time to still get out and stock up

They just said that the toddler who died in Texas had been sick since April 4th and his family is not sick, so that is a sad situation but it's actually a good sign that the family did not get sick even after 3 weeks...

Do they know how the teenagers in NY got sick??? They said they went to Mexico for spring break but no details.

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by donnarod

Interesting thought, maybe global warming?????

Look at our weather how its changed, Huricanes are caused by the warming trend. Did you know our Planet is 3 degress warmer than it was 10 years ago....

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by Rosiegirl

The first U.S. death has occuered from it. Those were the headlines this morning. A sweet little 1 year old baby passed. My mom is a nurse and she doen't take the idea of an widespread virus lightly, so either will I. I think it is pretty stupid to travel to Mexico.

Wasnt that 1 year old actually from Mexico City and they traveled up here to visit relatives?

[Erin]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

Wasnt that 1 year old actually from Mexico City and they traveled up here to visit relatives?

The Texas Children's Hospital in Houston just said that the child did NOT acquire the virus here. Yes, he was from Mexico. They are also saying he had "underlying health issues"

[Erin]

Originally Posted by manolos mom

Look at our weather how its changed, Huricanes are caused by the warming trend. Did you know our Planet is 3 degress warmer than it was 10 years ago....

You are exactly right. Whenever we get a big snowfall here people write into our local paper saying how Global Warming is BS - people don't understand. Regardless of the cause of Global Warming, it is happening, and it is causing gradual temperature change. Ocean currents are being disrupted and in turn, weather patterns are disrupted. Not sure what it has to do with swine flu, but again I find it very strange that it's happening in April, in Mexico no less!

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by chachi

Right now I am just waiting to see. My Husband says the media has exaggerated it so we will see

I believe he is right! When they name a flu, the media always gets carried away.

Here is a quote about average flue deaths during just normal times: "The number of influenza-associated (i.e., flu-related) deaths varies from year to year because flu seasons often fluctuate in length and severity. CDC estimated that about 36,000 people died of flu-related causes each year, on average, during the 1990s in the United States." Now those are flu-related so even complications resulting from the flu or those ill and then contracting flu too. But there are always people dying of the flu. Reports saythis flu is following typical outbreak patterns.

The one death here in the US was a toddler from Mexico City. So, we have actually not had any deaths here in the US of people normally living here. But when flu seasons are over and done with statistics will probably show there were flu-related deaths -- from this swine flu. Interestingly, when I first joined the Navy back in the seventies (yes, I am old ), the first time I ever heard of a flu shot, we got two shots, one in each arm, Swine Flu A & B. BTW I got sick as could be!

[manolos mom]

It has lots to do with this, unsanitary conditions, warm air and water, this is a recipe for an infestation of bacteria and diseases.

[Erin]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

I believe he is right! When they name a flu, the media always gets carried away.

Here is a quote about average flue deaths during just normal times: "The number of influenza-associated (i.e., flu-related) deaths varies from year to year because flu seasons often fluctuate in length and severity. CDC estimated that about 36,000 people died of flu-related causes each year, on average, during the 1990s in the United States." Now those are flu-related so even complications resulting from the flu or those ill and then contracting flu too. But there are always people dying of the flu. Reports saythis flu is following typical outbreak patterns.

The one death here in the US was a toddler from Mexico City. So, we have actually not had any deaths here in the US of people normally living here. But when flu seasons are over and done with statistics will probably show there were flu-related deaths -- from this swine flu. Interestingly, when I first joined the Navy back in the seventies (yes, I am old ), the first time I ever heard of a flu shot, we got two shots, one in each arm, Swine Flu A & B. BTW I got sick as could be!

They are concerned because some of the people who died in Mexico were healthy adults. Typically when healthy adults catch the regular seasonal flu they get sick for 2 weeks and recover, without intervention. That MAY have been a fluke, but that is a big reason why they are concerned.

The W.H.O. just bumped the alert level to 5 out of 6.

[Yorkiedaze]

Could this all be hype? Could these people just have a random virus? Could it be another "Close Encounter of the Third Kind"? Hmmmm? Is it to keep people from traveling ANYWHERE in order to keep our money in the good ol USA? What the heck is going on anymore?

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze

Could this all be hype? Could these people just have a random virus? Could it be another "Close Encounter of the Third Kind"? Hmmmm? Is it to keep people from traveling ANYWHERE in order to keep our money in the good ol USA? What the heck is going on anymore?

Could it be people wanting to lower the prices of airfare to their favorite destinations? Or even cruises before the summer months arrive?
It's funny how I just heard something like that on my drive back from school.

[linda44]

Originally Posted by Erin

I love Wisconsin. My parents have a little cabin way up there and I've always got that in the back of my mind when things like this happen!

Just to clarify, since I've been watching news conferences all day

Flu, as in INFLUENZA, is a respiratory virus, not a stomach virus. It amazes me how many people are misinformed about this. I've been watching the news today and I'm happy that they are trying their best to communicate that information. Influenza will hit you quickly, but it is a high fever, cough and/or sore throat, muscle/body aches, etc. It's like a VERY bad cold. It's also possible to have these symptoms and not have influenza. I went from perfectly fine to fever, dizzy, sore throat, trouble breathing, etc. within like 8 hours last winter and I went in for a flu swab test (they swab your nose) and it was clear, so it was just a really bad cold. So, if you think you have this STAY HOME and call your doctor and/or urgent care and they will instruct you where to go for a flu swab. If they confirm flu (any flu, not just H1N1 Swine Flu) they can give you Tamiflu or other anti-virals. But in my experience they will not just give you Tamiflu without a swab So, definitely call and ask what to do! (I hate being sick so I try to be very proactive )

(That's not to say stomach viruses aren't horrible - they are - they just aren't "the flu" I wish we could get away from saying "stomach flu" because it's totally not...)

Also, people are apparently avoiding eating pork?? Again, it's a respiratory virus. Eating pork will not make anyone sick with H1N1.

There are couple reasons this might get pretty bad:

Pigs are very close to humans genetically. That is why they use pig organs for experimental transplants, etc. In the past with the "avian flu" people could pretty much only catch it FROM birds, not so much human to human. Because this strain was in pigs before it "jumped species" there is a better chance that it will easily transmit from human to human. It's more complicated than that, but I am always thankful for my having had an AP Bio class when trying to understand this sort of thing.

The other reason is that this is similar to the 1918 flu in the sense that it is attacking healthy people. Because this is a *new* flu, people with robust immune systems have a significant response to it. It's called a cytokine storm: Cytokine storm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Apparently, that is what happened in 1918 and they think it might be happening again. Typically the flu is most deadly to children and elderly, not healthy adults. So that is why they are watching this so closely.

There are also some reasons it might not get so bad:
Communication and quarantine - like previously said 1400 people isn't a high % of MC and the whole world is preparing for the spread.
Antibiotics to treat secondary pneumonia.
Antivirals like Tamiflu.
Diagnostic tests to identify the spread
We don't know how transmissible this is human to human yet. We know that it is transmissible, but there's a chance it will slowly weaken unless it mutates again. The bird flu fizzled out because it wasn't easily transmitted.

Also, they are saying that the symptoms are very similar to regular flu, not necessarily worse. I think it's odd that it happened in April at the more traditional end of flu season. I don't think anyone knows just what will happen...

Regardless, we need groceries so I'm going to really stock up just in case. They might be over-reacting by closing schools, etc. but why take the chance? I guess the officials got some flack last time for over-reacting to the bird flu but I'd rather be informed! We've only had 1 case in IL so now is a good time to still get out and stock up

They just said that the toddler who died in Texas had been sick since April 4th and his family is not sick, so that is a sad situation but it's actually a good sign that the family did not get sick even after 3 weeks...

Do they know how the teenagers in NY got sick??? They said they went to Mexico for spring break but no details.

Great info, the flu is a virus, not a bacterial infection, although complications can cause a bacterial infection, and regardless how safe you think you are, the National Health Institute has raised the warning to a phase 5 which is second from the highest level and says they think pandemic levels are immenant. I know at my job we are gearing up to house sick. Wash your hands, doorknobs, all high touch areas.