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MindieRose 02-03-2009 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bizzymammabee (Post 2452336)
Oy you just love drama and getting wound up. No one assumed or even intimated that children that grow up in large families are more apt to become addicts or criminals. I didn't make a general statement here. I just specifically spoke on that family's issue. Jesus you just jump all over and get agitated and want to spew off and add things to the mix that weren't even stated. As I have said before you just identify way too much with this family due to your own circumstance. I have no idea how in the world you don't think that a child won't lack attention. You have a ton of children it stands to good reason that no one will get an overly abundant amount of time from their parents. There is just so many hours in a day.


Ok, I lied, I am posting again. First off, you are the one on here obsessing over this woman. You have gotten yourself completely worked up over a stranger. I have stated before that I do not think its right this particular situation and how it went down. My problem is people saying that families that have a lot of children, like how you said the family that was on intervention, cannot give their children enough attention. I don't believe that to be true at all. You just seem to have some real bitterness about large families. We may end up having more and adopting more children, and it may be 11 or 12 children, and I know in my heart that all of my children will be well cared for. I know you aren't saying that ALL large families are disfunctional, but you sure make it sound that way. I can understand if this thread would have been only about this situation, but there has been a lot of statements about large families that I do take personal.

Bizzymammabee 02-03-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MindieRose (Post 2452375)
Ok, I lied, I am posting again. First off, you are the one on here obsessing over this woman. You have gotten yourself completely worked up over a stranger. I have stated before that I do not think its right this particular situation and how it went down. My problem is people saying that families that have a lot of children, like how you said the family that was on intervention, cannot give their children enough attention. I don't believe that to be true at all. You just seem to have some real bitterness about large families. We may end up having more and adopting more children, and it may be 11 or 12 children, and I know in my heart that all of my children will be well cared for. I know you aren't saying that ALL large families are disfunctional, but you sure make it sound that way. I can understand if this thread would have been only about this situation, but there has been a lot of statements about large families that I do take personal.


This is a thread over the whole issue facing this family. So it's not obsessing..it's a discussion as most threads are on YT. If you don't care to read what is being said and updated about the family as time goes on then you don't have to read it. You have consistantly compared comments made by posters and turned it into a comparison of your family values, situation etc and not about what we are talking about. You seem to feel that folks or rather me (yep I am saying me because you constantly quote me and want to go off) are bashing your family situation when that is not the case.

What you believe is not the reality. It was said over and over by various members of the family (children that grew up there) that there was not enough one on one attention and several of them essentially paired up and raised the others. So I am not inferring a thing. I was just restating what was said.

Let's be for real. You have six children...so where are they when you spend how many hours a day on YT? How much attention are they getting when you spend your time on here? I personally don't care how many children you have. It's your personal business. In the case of this lady this crap infuriates me and I will state my opinion because I can do just that. I am tired of paying out the behind every paycheck because people choose to live off the system and keep having children and not working.

What you also need to do is figure out what you want to charge me with.
I know you aren't saying that ALL large families are disfunctional, but you sure make it sound that way.
Not once have I said or intimated that a large family is dysfunctional. Again your putting general statements in my mouth. This whole post I have concentrated on how that family is run due to the information that is being given by her parents and family members alike that have been interviewed by the media.

browniesmom622 02-03-2009 10:51 AM

I think this is getting alittle to personal This thread should stick to the topic.

Did anyone hear( i'm not sure if it was talked about) That she was only implated with 4 egg's & they split. Makes alittle more sense now.

stovesj 02-03-2009 10:57 AM

I haven't heard that. Last report I heard was she had eight embryos left and did not want to destroy any of them, hence they implanted all of them. Time will tell.

Bizzymammabee 02-03-2009 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by browniesmom622 (Post 2452436)
I think this is getting alittle to personal This thread should stick to the topic.

Did anyone hear( i'm not sure if it was talked about) That she was only implated with 4 egg's & they split. Makes alittle more sense now.

I tried to keep it factual but I quite frankly am tired of a certain person constantly calling me out and putting things in my mouth.....the text is there and there is no refuting what I have and have not said. You can see I never edited a thing after the fact.

You sure. I know the interview with her mom stated she had four there and had them implanted because she didn't want her eggs destroyed.

Nikki+2 02-03-2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by stovesj (Post 2452449)
I haven't heard that. Last report I heard was she had eight embryos left and did not want to destroy any of them, hence they implanted all of them. Time will tell.

That's all I've heard too. I didn't see the interview but I heard her spokesperson/publicist is saying no comment on the particulars of how it happened.

Bizzymammabee 02-03-2009 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki+2 (Post 2452466)
That's all I've heard too. I didn't see the interview but I heard her spokesperson/publicist is saying no comment on the particulars of how it happened.

The doctor is probably telling her to be quiet about it now or he will lose his license. She better be worried as well about social services going to check out how she is caring for all the kids.

Baby Phat 02-03-2009 11:24 AM

GOD....Is that You?
 
I believe that everything happens for a reason. I don't judge because I'm not God and whatever the reason for her having this done is what God had in store. I think that we as people need to realize that people are going to do what they want and when they want whether you me or anyone likes it or not. Not to step on anyone's toes but everyone is not going to like a lot of things that you do, but it's your life and you have to live it. That's the same for everyone else.

MindieRose 02-03-2009 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bizzymammabee (Post 2452393)
Let's be for real. You have six children...so where are they when you spend how many hours a day on YT? How much attention are they getting when you spend your time on here? I personally don't care how many children you have. It's your personal business. In the case of this lady this crap infuriates me and I will state my opinion because I can do just that. I am tired of paying out the behind every paycheck because people choose to live off the system and keep having children and not working.

Not that I have to give anyone an account for what I do with my time or my children, but 4 of my children are in school during the day. I have a wireless laptop that I always have on as I have a business I operate from my home that I need my computer on at all times for. My 4 year old does preschool work and crafts during the day. Today we did princess posters, worked on letter identification and writing, and made cookies. After that we had an ear doctor appointment.
I thought this lady was going to college so that she can make a decent living?

Wylie's Mom 02-03-2009 11:32 AM

I guess she has hired 2 LA-based Publicists.

Octuplets are L.A.'s newest celebrities - Los Angeles Times

Wylie's Mom 02-03-2009 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bizzymammabee (Post 2452472)
The doctor is probably telling her to be quiet about it now or he will lose his license. She better be worried as well about social services going to check out how she is caring for all the kids.

I would bet ALL kinds of money that the doctor and clinic's protocol is being investigated - and that CPS is looking into whether this single parent can provide a healthy home for 14 children.

Nikki+2 02-03-2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2452489)
I guess she has hired 2 LA-based Publicists.

Octuplets are L.A.'s newest celebrities - Los Angeles Times

From this link:

"She has her view of her life with her kids as they go down life's highway," he said. "She wants to be sure they are well cared for."

I think most people realize that one of the basic things parents do to make sure their children are well cared for is having some sort of income to provide the necessities for them and not intentionally having more than said income can support.

This whole donated breast milk thing is new for me and I'm trying not to be creeped out by it. I wonder where it comes from?

Wylie's Mom 02-03-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki+2 (Post 2452499)
I think most people realize that one of the basic things parents do to make sure their children are well cared for is having some sort of income to provide the necessities for them and not intentionally having more than said income can support.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: I agree. I mean I know life throws wildcards, but this was not the case here.

Bizzymammabee 02-03-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2452495)
I would bet ALL kinds of money that the doctor and clinic's protocol is being investigated - and that CPS is looking into whether this single parent can provide a healthy home for 14 children.

That clinic should be investigated from top to bottom.

MindieRose 02-03-2009 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2452495)
I would bet ALL kinds of money that the doctor and clinic's protocol is being investigated

They better be. I think that there needs to be a lot stricter rules regarding invitro than what they have now. They go way too far playing God anymore.


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