Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 2436762)

It seems to me that you expect everyone else to have the knowledge you do about dogs, and the fact is, many people don't. Maybe you think they should, but how are they going to learn if someone doesn't educate them? Passionate animal lovers have a responsibility to TEACH, not to berate or shame.

Originally Posted by Keely_momma (Post 2436382)

Okay, i need to vent.


Am i that horrible, because i get defensive when some irresponsible breeder is producing puppies and dont know how to take care of them? But of course, we are not here to judge!


Am I NOT supposed to get defensive when somebody want to buy a dog that has little to no undercoat and keep it outside in -40 c Weahter???!

Why Am I the terrible person for trying to talk somebody out of doing something utterly STUPID AND SELFISH!?

Why am I the horrible one, When I hold puppies that were bred by a BYB that breeds morkies and Yorkiepoos BUt people say "she isnt a bad breeder. She was nice. My puppy isnt from a bad place. I got her froma good breeder." And meanwhile im holding you puppies brother or sister while its getting PTS?


I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND? I statrted a thread about morkies AND designer breeds. Not because Im against the puppies or dogs. BEcause I HATE The people that breed these so called breeds, And then I was insulted and bashed. And people started turening it around saying i didnt like mix breed dogs? If i didnt like them, I would do everything in my fricking power to keep them from getting PUT TO SLEEP at 3 months old!

I just dont understand. People tell me "well there are some good morkie (or whatever) breeders that are accually trying to make it a real breed"

Okay, Well if that is the case, why do they breed 2 PURE BRED yorkies and A maltese together? All the pups will most likely end up with totaally different traits. Why not breed 2 "Morkies" together with the same traits, that are going to be that standard for morkies and accually create a new breed recognized by CKC and AKC?

And why not make up a more original name for them ? I mean COME ON!


ARGHHH okay. I ranted. Go ahead. Bash me now for not liking irresponsible breeders.

Originally Posted by Keely_momma (Post 2436513)

I think its in humane to leave any dog outside in the weather we are having (Or anywehather if the dog is starved for attention and warmth. ) So yes, I think MOST deserve to suffer. Its selfish to have a dog and leave it outside. Nothing but selfishness. I can understand it when your dog has a JOb. Like protecting cattle, guarding/ whatever. But pet. no. Its terrible.

Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2436774)

Just so you know, I also have 2 OUTSIDE dogs. Not that it gets like freezing cold out, but, they aren't tied up, they have a large dog run, fresh water, food, a beautiful shelter with 2 dog houses made inside, a lot of straw, and they get a lot of love and attention..Oh lordy, am I bad??

Originally Posted by Trixter (Post 2436805)

Keely Momma, It might help to think of this public forum as a public room. Realize there are people and faces and hearts and feelings on the other side of the screen you are looking at. You are open to your opinion, but you said that at times you feel like slapping some of the people at your shelter in the face.
When you reply to a thread with a negative response, you ARE slapping the person in the face. Just because you can't see them, doesn't mean you aren't having the same effect. You do know how it feels, because people HAVE done the same to you.
There is an old saying "You can catch more flies with Honey than Vinegar!" There is great truth in that.
You have great passion, and if channeled correctly, you will use this to your advantage, and the advantage of the pet world.

Originally Posted by chachi (Post 2436706)

I have seen some of your posts and they are confrontational. You probably would get a different reaction if they werent so harsh. jmo

Originally Posted by Ashley V (Post 2436817)

In some of your previous posts where you have tried educating people you have sounded confrontational... that might not have been what was intended, but you could have phrased things differently. People are more apt to listen to someone who is calm and will explain things, rather than being accusatory. For example, instead of saying, "Keeping a dog outside is CRUEL AND SICK" you could say, "There are a lot of dangers of keeping a dog outside all the time and these are the effects of these dangers ...." Which one would you be more likely to listen to? The first response would put the other person on the defense whereas the second response, a person would more than likely say either "yes, but ..." then give you a response or say "oh you know I never thought of that. Thanks!" They could still get defensive, but you know, you can't help everyone!

Originally Posted by MindieRose (Post 2436784)

I have 2 outside goats :p It is freezing here and snowy, and I am NOT bringing them inside! :D
We had an outside dog (lab) for a long time and he was perfectly happy. He was miserable when we brought him in the house. The only reason we rehomed him was because he got to be lonely in the winter months and it was just eating at me, and we could not get another dog, as we met (eh hem, exceeded :rolleyes: ) our limit. He was the best though, and if we could have had another dog out there with him, it would have been more ideal.
If someone has an outside dog and provides them with adequate shelter, attention and nourishment, thats great. Some breeds were bred to be outside a lot.

Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2436873)

You mean person, leaving your goats out in the cold...:D Mine aren't coming in either, they shed, but, they have eachother, and believe me, they have it made. Hubby worries about them when it gets cold out, but, I keep telling him, they're both long haired dogs(even the shepherd is long haired) and they're not tied up, and they have lots of straw and eachother. heck, the dog across the street is tied up, by itself, and is a cocker spaniel, and believe me, my dogs have it a lot better, I feel like stealing that dog and bringing it over to our shelter, at least it would be warm. We even have the thermometer in our dogs shelter that shows us inside what it is in their shelter, and it has a roof and insulation in there too. I can even walk in to it, which I do everynight to feed them.;)

Originally Posted by chattiesmom (Post 2436880)

My little pygmy goat SLEPT with my husband and me under the covers for several weeks. But sssshhhhhhh don't tell anyone. I mean I'd be accused of being cruel for bringing a farm animal inside :D I have also been known to bathe miniature horses in the bath tub.