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Patti · 01-21-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Saleswman

No one discusses that he is bi-racial. He is half white, but that is never talked about. I am already tired of all of it. I just want a strong leader, I dont care what color he/she is. But, I also don;t want it shoved down my throat what a disadvantage he has had......think about it.....

Women face discrimination every day, and no one seems to care. Would we have had the same celebration if a Woman would have been elected.????

Let him just be a man period, and NOT a "black man".

Sorry I will shut up.

Well said!

Lovetodream88 · 01-21-2009, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saleswman

No one discusses that he is bi-racial. He is half white, but that is never talked about. I am already tired of all of it. I just want a strong leader, I dont care what color he/she is. But, I also don;t want it shoved down my throat what a disadvantage he has had......think about it.....

Women face discrimination every day, and no one seems to care. Would we have had the same celebration if a Woman would have been elected.????

Let him just be a man period, and NOT a "black man".

Sorry I will shut up.

No dont shut up

I am with you I dont think color should have anything to do with it

Ashley V · 01-21-2009, 07:20 PM

I could go on about this all day, but I will just say one thing.

People are focusing on the past. Yes, there are still people who are racist, but it comes with ALL races, not just one or a couple. Comments like that are forcing the different "races" to stay divided and allowing what's left of the racism to go on. People just need to get past what happened years and years ago and try to unite.

I voted for Obama. I don't care WHAT color he is. Black, white, purple, pink, blue, green, or zebra striped, if I feel he's the best man/woman for the job, then I'm going to vote for them. Sorry, just the way I feel.

chloesMama · 01-21-2009, 07:57 PM

I personally don't think he intended harm with his statement. Do I think he could have written something that was less racially dividing , yes. But I don't think he meant it the way it came across to many. I would love to think that the election of President Obama signals the start of change for this nation in every way, including moving past racial separation .

Sunnie · 01-21-2009, 08:09 PM

I am going to go out on a limb and say that I agree with the OP. I flinched when I heard it too. And I also agree with the notion that it was said without an intention of hurting anyone.. But all in all, it was one of the many things said thruout the entire election that makes me just pray that I never have to hear the word "racism" again thruout the term of office. It has no place in our society and constant reminders to any racial group is plain wrong and keeps the pot boiling..

BTW.. I also voted for Obama because I believe he is a good man who will do a good job

Valeria Morriso · 01-21-2009, 08:24 PM

I am prayerful that he didn't mean it the way it came out. But....my pastor once told me that whenever you are in a position of leadership....you HAVE to be careful how you say things. I personally think it could have been ended differently. I am prayerful that President Obama will do a GREAT job. I will pray that he does. He seems very personable and I am very impressed with his wife. Time will tell. I can only say that I wouldn't want his job for any amount of money. Too much pressure and too many decisions.

LoveMyJake · 01-21-2009, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MeganS

I thought it was kind of uncalled for. Those are the kinds of statements that continue to divide the races. Whites, blacks, reds, purples, oranges with pink polka dots......we're all equal and making statements that blatantly seperate us...that doesn't help anything. Just my opinion.

I agree. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't even think about anything that happened so long ago. We are past that now, but comments like that just continue to divide, like you said. Who cares about color? I sure don't. We live in the United States where everyone SHOULD be created equal. To me, the color of someone's skin should not determine if they should or shouldn't be president. It's ridiculous.

chachi · 01-22-2009, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saleswman

No one discusses that he is bi-racial. He is half white, but that is never talked about. I am already tired of all of it. I just want a strong leader, I dont care what color he/she is. But, I also don;t want it shoved down my throat what a disadvantage he has had......think about it.....

Women face discrimination every day, and no one seems to care. Would we have had the same celebration if a Woman would have been elected.????

Let him just be a man period, and NOT a "black man".

Sorry I will shut up.

Well If its Obama that is the way he acts, very racially neutral. I dont think he would have had that minister say the prayer if he knew what he was going to say

Lovetodream88 · 01-22-2009, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chachi

Well If its Obama that is the way he acts, very racially neutral. I dont think he would have had that minister say the prayer if he knew what he was going to say

I dont think he would have either. Maybe they need some kind of speech review for really big and important events like that.

chachi · 01-22-2009, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

I dont think he would have either. Maybe they need some kind of speech review for really big and important events like that.

I think thats a good idea. they said on a radio show that I listen to that he wouldnt know what that minister or Rick Warrens prayer would be about. It just seems like they should have more control than that at that type of function

YoRkiE Te aMo · 01-22-2009, 08:22 AM

sometimes it is good to research prior to making statements or judgements !
Joseph Lowery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ashley V · 01-22-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by YoRkiE Te aMo

sometimes it is good to research prior to making statements or judgements !
Joseph Lowery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't see where you are proving your point. It said even Obama stopped smiling at that.

"On January 20, 2009, Dr. Lowery delivered the benediction at the inauguration of Barack Obama as the 44th President of the United States of America. He opened with lines from "Lift Every Voice and Sing," also known as "The Negro National Anthem," by James Weldon Johnson. He concluded with the following, an interpolation of Big Bill Broonzy's "Black, Brown and White":

Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get in back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man; and when white will embrace what is right. Let all those who do justice and love mercy say Amen. Say Amen. And Amen. [8]

This concluding passage has been criticized as divisive and racist against white people, since it appears to suggest that whites do not currently embrace what is right, while exhorting perceived hardships and hopes faced by other races.[9][10]

In the video of the event, Obama can be witnessed promptly losing his smile upon hearing this potentially contentious utterance.[11]"

Sookie · 01-22-2009, 08:33 AM

I look forward to the day when we can elect a president, man or woman, black, brown or any other color and nothing is mentioned about it - then I will know that we have definately come together.

chachi · 01-22-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by YoRkiE Te aMo

sometimes it is good to research prior to making statements or judgements !
Joseph Lowery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I am sorry but just because he is a civil rights leader didnt give him a good reason to say what he did offending white americans. If Rick Warren who would have singled out one group of people in his sermon the media and everyone else would have been all over it and should be.

IndianaGirl · 01-22-2009, 08:55 AM

Im a white woman, as you can see by my avatar...lol
But, what I don't understand is why what he said, some are taking it to heart?
I have heard people say "why is there a BET channel? Why a Negro college fund?
I say why not? Its not hurting me or your if there is a channel geared towards the black viewers or a college set up for black children.
I have really grown up these last few years and really starting to understand a bit about American History and the past that it held. For those that hold onto racism and are looking for it, I hope you can see that it can be taking way out of context if you allow it to. Also understand, the Reverend is one of the few black americans left that felt the racism that did exist. The new generations coming up will no nothing of any of that because we as a society are not allowing it to continue. I didn't even vote for Obama

But I do think he will help us these next 4 yrs and he certainly didn't make race an issue in his speach...but he is also too young to have encountered it too.

01-21-2009, 07:20 PM	#33
Ashley V ♥ Chip ♥ Smokey ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Leesburg Posts: 3,835	I could go on about this all day, but I will just say one thing. People are focusing on the past. Yes, there are still people who are racist, but it comes with ALL races, not just one or a couple. Comments like that are forcing the different "races" to stay divided and allowing what's left of the racism to go on. People just need to get past what happened years and years ago and try to unite. I voted for Obama. I don't care WHAT color he is. Black, white, purple, pink, blue, green, or zebra striped, if I feel he's the best man/woman for the job, then I'm going to vote for them. Sorry, just the way I feel. __________________ ~~ Chip ~~ Smokey ~*~ My heart is wrapped around their little paws Karley Marissa born 1/20/12 weighing 8 lbs 11 oz and 21.5 inches long

01-21-2009, 07:57 PM	#34
chloesMama YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: here :) Posts: 1,182	I personally don't think he intended harm with his statement. Do I think he could have written something that was less racially dividing , yes. But I don't think he meant it the way it came across to many. I would love to think that the election of President Obama signals the start of change for this nation in every way, including moving past racial separation . __________________ *Chloe & Sydney*

01-21-2009, 08:09 PM	#35
Sunnie Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: So. California Posts: 4,057	I am going to go out on a limb and say that I agree with the OP. I flinched when I heard it too. And I also agree with the notion that it was said without an intention of hurting anyone.. But all in all, it was one of the many things said thruout the entire election that makes me just pray that I never have to hear the word "racism" again thruout the term of office. It has no place in our society and constant reminders to any racial group is plain wrong and keeps the pot boiling.. BTW.. I also voted for Obama because I believe he is a good man who will do a good job __________________ Sonya, Owned by Ladybug, Tilly, Sunshine, Beamer, Rainbow, Sonny and Righteous RIP Sunnie (11/12/2003-7/31/2009) Last edited by Sunnie; 01-21-2009 at 08:11 PM.

01-21-2009, 08:24 PM	#36
Valeria Morriso Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cottondale, AL USA Posts: 246	I am prayerful that he didn't mean it the way it came out. But....my pastor once told me that whenever you are in a position of leadership....you HAVE to be careful how you say things. I personally think it could have been ended differently. I am prayerful that President Obama will do a GREAT job. I will pray that he does. He seems very personable and I am very impressed with his wife. Time will tell. I can only say that I wouldn't want his job for any amount of money. Too much pressure and too many decisions. __________________ Proudly owned by LuLu, Papi, and Dixie RIP Annabelle and Sasha--Mommy Loves You!

01-22-2009, 08:33 AM	#43
Sookie My Four Sweet Babies Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Jersey near Philadelphia Posts: 5,452	I look forward to the day when we can elect a president, man or woman, black, brown or any other color and nothing is mentioned about it - then I will know that we have definately come together. __________________ I LOVE MY BABIES

01-22-2009, 08:22 AM	#41
YoRkiE Te aMo YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto, Ont. Canada Posts: 421	sometimes it is good to research prior to making statements or judgements ! Joseph Lowery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

01-22-2009, 08:55 AM	#45
IndianaGirl Little Pink Houses Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Burbank, California USA Posts: 1,031	Im a white woman, as you can see by my avatar...lol But, what I don't understand is why what he said, some are taking it to heart? I have heard people say "why is there a BET channel? Why a Negro college fund? I say why not? Its not hurting me or your if there is a channel geared towards the black viewers or a college set up for black children. I have really grown up these last few years and really starting to understand a bit about American History and the past that it held. For those that hold onto racism and are looking for it, I hope you can see that it can be taking way out of context if you allow it to. Also understand, the Reverend is one of the few black americans left that felt the racism that did exist. The new generations coming up will no nothing of any of that because we as a society are not allowing it to continue. I didn't even vote for Obama But I do think he will help us these next 4 yrs and he certainly didn't make race an issue in his speach...but he is also too young to have encountered it too.