My TIVO guide says it's on at 9pm CST - - but maybe there's a rerun before it?

Watching After The Final Rose Part 2!!...Supposedly this is another 6 weeks later (after he dumped Melissa)......hmmmm lets see what happends...

I cant believe I spent so much time watching this show. By the way I am watching it right now............It has to be staged doesn't it?

oh, I was wrong about the next Bachlorette - but after what happened this time around - I am so glad that Stephanie & her daughter won't be in this position.

Best wishes to Jillian though - not sure if I'll be watching

:thumbup: I agree. I was expecting to see him crying again but I still think he's a total jerk.

I actually stopped watching after season 2 and then tried it again with this season........ I fell so stupid. What a waste of time. I would have been better served reading a good book.

I watched the ATR 2 and I really can't stand looking at him. He seems so fake to me now. Why didn't I see it before?

if you go to astrochicks.com its a bachelor spoiler website. I went there and knew the outcome before I watched it. It was totally staged by ABC. I guess Melissa went back to BF before he home town visits and wanted to go home. ABC paid her to stay. That is why the visit with her parents suddenly changed to her friends. Her parents weren't happy and was going to pull the plug on ABC for staging this. So they did the friends thing. Notice how you never heard them on the other line in the phone convo's either. Well anyway they paid Melissa to stage and act this out. I guess Jason knew he wanted Molly and they knew they would be together. If you rewatch the show and when Molly gets in the limo after getting her heart broke they give a smirkey smile just before the door closes. Also notice how she kept saying Melissa wasnt right for him, bah bah bah. And the reason the final show wasn't in front of people was because they filmed it 3 diff ways at first and didnt know which one they would choose, rather it would be Melissa dumping Jason, Jason dumping Melissa, etc. Sooooo staged. But great actors I must admit. Don't know if this is all true but they had all the rest right before the show aired!!!! I'm thinking it is cause it all makes perfect sense. Also like they pointed out. Why didnt Jason just break up with her off the show like all the other Bachelors did. Why make it so public, etc. He would have just broken up at home, called Molly and all would have been well. Jason and Molly falling in love wasn't staged, just how they all got there.

I will be interested to see the comparisons of the ratings between this season and next. I know at least 10 people personally who say they'll never watch again and that seems to be a common rant with a lot of people. I know I won't ever again.

It all looked staged. Nothing is 'real' on reality shows anymore.

Denise, this astrochicks could very well be a way for ABC to cool the public down if it was needed. Astrochicks could be a ABC attorney covering all the bases. Who knows I could care less at this point I am so sickened by ABC and Jason. I firmly believe that ABC planned this entire thing from the very beginning and Jason signed on knowing and was paid very well. Look at the size of his family that was flown to New Zeland and put up also and all the perks we will never know about. He'll be a paid guest on another tv show Friday so he will continue to pull in the $$ and that is what must be most important to him. I also don't think he cares about Molly in the least. (not crying over that):) JMHO

:eek: I did notice that smirkey smile Molly gave Jason when she got into the limo...and wondered what that was about!:eek:
I will no longer be watching the Bachelor or Bachelorette...good bye ABC...:rolleyes:

You know - I don't buy any of that. Maybe I'm naive - but after reading Chris' blog & watching last night - they both talked about all the hurtful things that have been written and all these theories on the Internet. I don't believe that ABC staged all of this & I don't believe that Jason would have done this. What happened has been disastrous for ABC & the show - so many people say they will never watch again. And why would an adult man put his reputation & integrity on the line & the future of his son for a stupid tv show? I believe he chose Melissa & at some pt. shortly after regretted it. I believe that Jason did this on his own

Of course we all have our right to believe differently but if you believe that, then why was the break up On Live TV???

Read Chris' blog that was posted yesterday. They were under contract with ABC to do everything in front of cameras. Yes, I think they had problems & that Melissa was aware of it. I don't believe Jason put his reputation on the line for this dumb show. He is the laughingstock of this entire country right now for changing his mind, breaking Melissa's heart and crying so much

so let's say ABC had him sign a contract to only do everything on camera(why I don't know, there were other couples who broke up without the camera) but lets say that is how it was. ABC still had the right to change that and they didn't....because they wanted it that way. You just watch the people who will say they won't watch and will. The person I am most upset with is myself to waste all that time and more right now.

Chris Harrison's Blog After the Rose 2
 

ABC says....
 

I agree 100% and who in the world would believe this about the producers saying it was not staged?

I know Shirl, it's a sad try but the people are smarter than to fall for that.

Melissa is going to be on 'Ellen' tomorrow and that I will watch.

As Jay Leno said tonight...."After The Final Rose"...sounds like a bathroom spray!!!!!!!

LOL!! :yelrotflm

:DYes, and we got 2 cans of it, not just one.

I have not read any of the other posts in this thread, but the title caught my attention. I just want to add to whatever has already been said and say that I wanted to slap him. That is all.

I'm at work & will miss Ellen today -- hope someone posts about what Melissa has to say.

Oooh me too - if someone happens to see it today please recap for us ;)

Well I saw it and I'll tell you what I remember.

She said that it was almost immediate that it was different. She said for all these months we were throwing ourselves at him and afterwards back in the real life, I started thinking how different things were and he was so different. I asked if there was another girl in his life and he said 'no' but she said women know when something is going on.

She did know he was going to break up with her on camera and before that had caught him contacting Molly but he said 'no' he was not and was told it would only be Jason and herself on the break up show. She said that night Chris taps her on the knee with his hand and says "p.s. it's Molly" and that is why she was so hurt. Her past boyfriend "TY" is helping her get through this and she says she is fine but I think the more she said she was ok the more I just wondered. She put on a good front and maybe once she felt the cold shoulder from Jason she started back with her old boyfriend to protect herself but she didn't say that. She looked great but you never know what is going on inside someone.

Please add to this if you can think of anything else. Oh also Ellen asked if she thought you could ever be friends with the two of them and she said "No, I think I could find people in my life with better character"

Just the facts folks ....no comments.

I am so mad at myself that I missed the show and glad you posted here about it.. it was so wonderful for me to see him that last night and I was shocked on the next show,, but knew there was some drama going on through a magazine I saw at Walmart...anne

:D LOL...too funny!!

Thanks crystalsmom for the update on the Ellen show today...I missed it and wanted to know what happened!!

You're welcome everyone. Well it's Jason and Molly tomorrow so someone else can report on that.

todays ellen show
 

Video Gallery - The Ellen DeGeneres Show

here is todays ellen ellen show with Mellissa. Hope it works.

Thanks for the video link - - I was able to watch it!!
Thanks so much :D :D