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Mom2BabyNatalie · 08-06-2008, 02:42 PM

<<< Quote: Cataholic: Also is there a way for you to get some milk from a momma dog right after she has puppies and give her some of that?>>>

You know, I had actually thought about doing that... in fact, I've been trying all day to get a hold of the kids who have Emma's mom - thinking that maybe we could express some colostrum for her, even though she can't nurse.

No luck reaching them, so I thought the same about another female who may have just very recently had pups - - but I don't know of anyone...

The vet didn't sound very positive about offering up any suggestions regarding any way to "recoup" that "lost protection" - - nor introduce any type of vitamins / supplements other than giving me the go ahead for use of the BeneBac, Nutrical and the puppy formula.

So that's what we're sticking to for now....

I didn't even ask the vet about tube feeding.... that's not something I feel comfortable enough with to risk doing it wrong... it would only take one time and I could wind up causing more damage than good....

So, as long as she's swallowing on her own, I've got to let her keep doing as much for herself as she can.... (and spare myself the trauma of tubing her!!! - - - I know, that sounds so selfish!)

She's sleeping a lot more tonight than when I got her yesterday evening... of course, yesterday she had been starved for 21 hours....

So sleeping, I hope - is a good sign.

I got excited about the 3 grams gain.... I weighed her after stimulating her to potty (which she did) and before feeding (2 hours since the previous) - - so 3 grams in a day might not be much, but we'll take it!!

My housemate is here in the event I just finally pass out, ha! But as long as I can keep up, I prefer to be the one to watch Emma... just in case, you know?

mscat · 08-06-2008, 02:44 PM

You have a beautiful, newborn chi... Your a hero in every sense of the word. I hope things turn out well for Emma. She is lucky to have you as her mommy. She looks like a little fighter too, and so tiny.

DvlshAngel985 · 08-06-2008, 02:49 PM

I wouldn't be too worried about the surgeon, they are probably just trying to see what is the best possible approach. It's great to hear that the vet gives her a clean bill of health!!! That's such great news!!!!!!!!!! Brings a smile to my face!
Please keep us updated!

Amazing Yorkies · 08-06-2008, 03:00 PM

What a wonderful thing you have done for little Emma! I have fed a cleft baby and she is now 3 yrs old and living with my Insurance Agent.
I used a syringe since as I got tired, it was harder for me to control the size of the drops of the dropper, and worried that I would drown her. There is some milk replacement that includes colostrum, if you can find that.
Good luck, you have some sleepless nights ahead. We will be praying for little Emma and for you to have the strength to care for Emma.

MyPeanutAbbyGra · 08-06-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mom2BabyNatalie

YAY!!! 3rd feeding went well again and the "after feeding" was even better!!! (I promise not to update EVERY time she eats, haha!)

But........ she did eat well.... just tiny bits every time... 'bout 1 - 1.5 cc each feeding.... and THEN - she did a good job "makin' a pee" with some stimulation... AND........ her very first POOP!!! (I'm so excited!!) haha...

I know, I know.... I'm a freak.... but seriously... it was just a relief to know that everything else seems to be functioning normally - so I feel great about that...

Thank you all again and again for your posts!! <<big hugs>>

You are not a freak! I completely understand, I would be excited too

Bless your heart for doing this. I hope little Emma thrives!
Are you sure you'r gonna be able to part with her?

Mom2BabyNatalie · 08-06-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MyPeanutAbbyGra

Are you sure you'r gonna be able to part with her?

Okay you guys... you really gotta' stop asking me that!!

I have to keep focused on the fact that I am ONLY the surrogate mommy here... that this baby is meant for someone special... I don't know who just yet, but if indeed Emma finds her way to stay here in this world with us, then she'll be certain to find the loving forever family that she is so deserving of.

I'm just the "middle man" trying to help her get well before she meets her new family...

I can't keep this baby..... I just want her to be well.......

Mom2BabyNatalie · 08-06-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Amazing Yorkies

I have fed a cleft baby and she is now 3 yrs old and living with my Insurance Agent.

Oh YAY!!! Another success story.... I'm so glad that you were able to give so much of yourself to care for your little one! I hope I am able to do the same for sweet Emma... she's such a darling little thing...

Beabble · 08-06-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MyPeanutAbbyGra

Are you sure you'r gonna be able to part with her?

I'm betting no way will she be able to part with sweet Lil Emma

sammiz · 08-06-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mom2BabyNatalie

Okay you guys... you really gotta' stop asking me that!!

I have to keep focused on the fact that I am ONLY the surrogate mommy here... that this baby is meant for someone special... I don't know who just yet, but if indeed Emma finds her way to stay here in this world with us, then she'll be certain to find the loving forever family that she is so deserving of.

I'm just the "middle man" trying to help her get well before she meets her new family...

I can't keep this baby..... I just want her to be well.......

It's perfectly alright to be the "middle man".....It is enough that you are attempting to save her little life. This is going to be no small accomplishment and I am so proud of you and thankful for the heart that God gave you.

Breny · 08-06-2008, 04:24 PM

I'm so in love with Emma! She just tugs at my heart, which I'm sure you can understand why!

TeeTee never had mom's milk either and she was ok. My vet too was pushing surgery but I was too scared. Still am. I figured if she is doing fine the way she is...why fix something that isn't broke. So I ignored his constant wants to see her.

I used a premie nipple when I bottle fed, even as young as Emma is.

Emma is Tiny thats for sure. Tia didn't make it to a pound forever. I fed her round the clock, had someone come to the house while I went to work (when she was younger) and did this for 3-4 months. I didn't sleep in my bed that long cuz I was setting my alarm for every 2 hours! But it was so worth it and I'd do it again!

I couldn't part with her...as you can tell

I will be checking this thread often

Mom2BabyNatalie · 08-06-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Breny

TeeTee never had mom's milk either and she was ok. My vet too was pushing surgery but I was too scared. Still am. I figured if she is doing fine the way she is...why fix something that isn't broke. So I ignored his constant wants to see her.

I am SO relieved to see that!! (NOT that TeeTee was deprived of her mother's milk... just that she did well without it! ) I've been such a wreck thinking that this would certainly seal her fate!!

As for the surgery, I think they want to move forward with it early on, because the cleft is so disfiguring as far as her nasal passages and gums... and they want to repair this before her teeth start coming in. (totally guessing on this)

If we were to let it go, I can't even imagine how and where exactly, her little teeth would come in..... there'd be no way, with her mouth the way it is currently, that she could grab on to anything... tug on a toy.... pick up food to eat - (she could chew with her back teeth and jaws, but picking up - ripping and tearing, etc. - she couldn't do)..... so I'm inclined to agree that it needs to be done... I just don't know how SOON it needs to be done.

YorkieShadow · 08-06-2008, 04:59 PM

Awww What a cutie, Im so glad she has you, Shes going to make someone a very Happy mommy some day. best wishes for her and Thanks you for taking the time to help her.

stedmansmommy · 08-06-2008, 05:47 PM

Oh Dena, girl, you are SUCH a blessing. You truly are. I hope and pray that one day there will be more people in this world like you. You are always trying to help in any way you can, these helpless little creatures, and you are such an angel for doing so. You know, this little girl probably wouldn't have made it if it wasn't for you, and I hope you realize just how wonderful you are for giving this little angel baby a chance to survive. I seriously wish that I could give you the biggest hug girl!!!

I will be saying many, many prayers for sweet little Emma, and I will be keeping her in my thoughts. I hope that she continues to eat well and I know that if there is a safe place for her anywhere in this world, it is in your arms.

I also wanted to say that I am so sorry to hear about the passing of your sons doggie, that is just so incredibly sad and heartbreaking and I am sure that he is just crushed

Maybe he/she in some way sent this little angel to you to make better

God Bless you girl and please give Emma a tiny kiss on her sweet little nose from my babies and I. She is truly a little doll

TeddyBear · 08-06-2008, 06:35 PM

Wow what a great thread! I don't know anything about Cleft palets but it is really interesting to learn. I really want to follow this thread and find out how she does. She is a little cutie!! I would totally get attached with all the work you are doing for her. From the pictures, she definitly looks like she is getting enough food. She has a nice size puppy belly. I want to wish you and Emma the best of luck and we will keep praying for you. Please keep posting all updates!!

GeorgiaGrits · 08-06-2008, 06:40 PM

You are my hero. Keep us posted on Emma's little life.

08-06-2008, 02:42 PM	#91
Mom2BabyNatalie Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,133	<<< Quote: Cataholic: Also is there a way for you to get some milk from a momma dog right after she has puppies and give her some of that?>>> You know, I had actually thought about doing that... in fact, I've been trying all day to get a hold of the kids who have Emma's mom - thinking that maybe we could express some colostrum for her, even though she can't nurse. No luck reaching them, so I thought the same about another female who may have just very recently had pups - - but I don't know of anyone... The vet didn't sound very positive about offering up any suggestions regarding any way to "recoup" that "lost protection" - - nor introduce any type of vitamins / supplements other than giving me the go ahead for use of the BeneBac, Nutrical and the puppy formula. So that's what we're sticking to for now.... I didn't even ask the vet about tube feeding.... that's not something I feel comfortable enough with to risk doing it wrong... it would only take one time and I could wind up causing more damage than good.... So, as long as she's swallowing on her own, I've got to let her keep doing as much for herself as she can.... (and spare myself the trauma of tubing her!!! - - - I know, that sounds so selfish!) She's sleeping a lot more tonight than when I got her yesterday evening... of course, yesterday she had been starved for 21 hours.... So sleeping, I hope - is a good sign. I got excited about the 3 grams gain.... I weighed her after stimulating her to potty (which she did) and before feeding (2 hours since the previous) - - so 3 grams in a day might not be much, but we'll take it!! My housemate is here in the event I just finally pass out, ha! But as long as I can keep up, I prefer to be the one to watch Emma... just in case, you know? __________________ Libby Gracie Mia & "Baby Emma" ~ My precious Natalie Kaye, you will ALWAYS be in my heart ~ I LOVE YOU!!!

08-06-2008, 02:44 PM	#92
mscat YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hanford, CA Posts: 4,895	You have a beautiful, newborn chi... Your a hero in every sense of the word. I hope things turn out well for Emma. She is lucky to have you as her mommy. She looks like a little fighter too, and so tiny. __________________ "No matter how little money & how few possessions, you own, having a dog makes you rich."

08-06-2008, 03:00 PM	#94
Amazing Yorkies YT Featured Breeder Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,552	What a wonderful thing you have done for little Emma! I have fed a cleft baby and she is now 3 yrs old and living with my Insurance Agent. I used a syringe since as I got tired, it was harder for me to control the size of the drops of the dropper, and worried that I would drown her. There is some milk replacement that includes colostrum, if you can find that. Good luck, you have some sleepless nights ahead. We will be praying for little Emma and for you to have the strength to care for Emma. __________________ Deb Sillers 816-261-8734 Cell ~ www.Amazingyorkies.com ~

08-06-2008, 04:24 PM	#100
Breny My Tiny Treasures Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: . Posts: 11,790 Blog Entries: 3	I'm so in love with Emma! She just tugs at my heart, which I'm sure you can understand why! TeeTee never had mom's milk either and she was ok. My vet too was pushing surgery but I was too scared. Still am. I figured if she is doing fine the way she is...why fix something that isn't broke. So I ignored his constant wants to see her. I used a premie nipple when I bottle fed, even as young as Emma is. Emma is Tiny thats for sure. Tia didn't make it to a pound forever. I fed her round the clock, had someone come to the house while I went to work (when she was younger) and did this for 3-4 months. I didn't sleep in my bed that long cuz I was setting my alarm for every 2 hours! But it was so worth it and I'd do it again! I couldn't part with her...as you can tell I will be checking this thread often __________________ http://Brenysbabies.com

08-06-2008, 05:47 PM	#103
stedmansmommy I Love My Lil' Punkin's Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Stedman and Tatum's World :) Posts: 15,331 Blog Entries: 5	Just now seeing this thread Oh Dena, girl, you are SUCH a blessing. You truly are. I hope and pray that one day there will be more people in this world like you. You are always trying to help in any way you can, these helpless little creatures, and you are such an angel for doing so. You know, this little girl probably wouldn't have made it if it wasn't for you, and I hope you realize just how wonderful you are for giving this little angel baby a chance to survive. I seriously wish that I could give you the biggest hug girl!!! I will be saying many, many prayers for sweet little Emma, and I will be keeping her in my thoughts. I hope that she continues to eat well and I know that if there is a safe place for her anywhere in this world, it is in your arms. I also wanted to say that I am so sorry to hear about the passing of your sons doggie, that is just so incredibly sad and heartbreaking and I am sure that he is just crushed Maybe he/she in some way sent this little angel to you to make better God Bless you girl and please give Emma a tiny kiss on her sweet little nose from my babies and I. She is truly a little doll __________________ Mommy Loves Stedman and Tatum! They have us wrapped around their little paws!

08-06-2008, 02:49 PM	#93
DvlshAngel985 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 12,693	I wouldn't be too worried about the surgeon, they are probably just trying to see what is the best possible approach. It's great to hear that the vet gives her a clean bill of health!!! That's such great news!!!!!!!!!! Brings a smile to my face! Please keep us updated!

08-06-2008, 04:59 PM	#102
YorkieShadow BANNED! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA Posts: 9,999	Awww What a cutie, Im so glad she has you, Shes going to make someone a very Happy mommy some day. best wishes for her and Thanks you for taking the time to help her.

08-06-2008, 06:35 PM	#104
TeddyBear Hey Cutie! Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,677	Wow what a great thread! I don't know anything about Cleft palets but it is really interesting to learn. I really want to follow this thread and find out how she does. She is a little cutie!! I would totally get attached with all the work you are doing for her. From the pictures, she definitly looks like she is getting enough food. She has a nice size puppy belly. I want to wish you and Emma the best of luck and we will keep praying for you. Please keep posting all updates!! __________________ Love, Leigh, Starsky and Shylah: You can never get enough Yorkie kisses!!! Proud member of the CrAzYcLuB http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/DenverYorkies/

08-06-2008, 06:40 PM	#105
GeorgiaGrits Elvis+Honey=My Heart Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Georgia Posts: 746	You are my hero. Keep us posted on Emma's little life. __________________ *Honey Willow, Pure and Sweet as Nectar* *Elvis Kisses Lift Me Higher & He Lights My Morning Sky* *Del Mom to Elvis and Honey Willow*