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| Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Linwood, KS
Posts: 249
| What about the larger problem of releasing domesticated animals into a national forest. What if these dogs were to survive and reproduce thus causing problems for the animals that are supposed to live in a national forest. This guy is a perfect example of why some animals eat their young. |
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| YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada
Posts: 496
| This mayor have too many bees in his bonnet . |
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| No Longer a Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Riverview, Florida
Posts: 4,953
| Well... I am just appalled. I continued to read and watch the videos on the days to follow this release. PETA got wind of it and stepped in and there was a major search for the dogs in the forest. Hopefully they were found. The humane society is also trying to assist this dumb azz to find alternatives. |
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| Smokey's Mommy!! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Georgetown Tn
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please dont tell me by the highlighted words that you think it would be ok to do cats that way.....NO ANIMAL DESERVES TO JUST BE THROWN AWAY!!!... I hope i misunderstood what you said.....
__________________ Mommy and Daddy Freckles Smokey Romeo Ally Niecy Alissia and Ariella | |
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| Kyle Plus 3 Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 6,929
| Wow, further proof that any uneducated person can be elected in politics. I would feel really dumb if I lived in that town and he was my mayor.ETA: Is this him? J.F. Valley, Esquire, P.A. | Helena, Arkansas | Practicing Attorney
__________________ Kyle (me), Britney, Brooklyn, and Coral Last edited by BubblPopElectrc; 06-16-2008 at 09:29 AM. |
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| "& Seeger, too" Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Central Kentucky
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__________________ Happy Fall Y'all! 🎃 | |
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| No Longer a Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Riverview, Florida
Posts: 4,953
| i just cant stop thinking about it. i wrote him an email at mayorjfvalley@gmail.com it may sound extreme to some..but i had to get it off my chest ![]() of course i have only received the auto generated response: Thanks for your concerns. Your thoughts are appreciated and will be catalogued and given approrpriate treatment. Have a great day and joyous rest of the week! -- Stay informed: MayorJFValley - Recent Journal Entries (Recent Entries on Mayor's Journal) Honorable James F. Valley MAYOR - Helena West Helena P O Box 248 Helena-West Helena, 72342 870-572-3421 Phone 870-572-5034 Fax 870-817-4035 Cell |
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| No Longer a Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Riverview, Florida
Posts: 4,953
| I wrote an email to the mayor! YOU would not believe his response! He did a mass email to all that emailed him and included everyone's personal email information, phone numbers etc. When I have time i have to edit out the profanity and will post them here.. How sad for that city! He is not very smart |
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| Kodi & Pixie 2 Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: NEBRASKA
Posts: 14,766
| OMG that stupid Freak I say We set him Free in the middle of the ocean on a raft with no food or water! |
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| No Longer a Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PORTERVILLE, CA
Posts: 1,574
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He used profanity in his response to you?!!!??? Send it to the local newspaper there. Heck....send it to CNN, Fox, ABC, NBC, MSNBC...ALL of them~. (after you post it here, that is). | |
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| Donating YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Boonville, IN
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Oh my gosh....what a JERK! I cannot believe him ![]()
__________________ Winston PackerProud member o f the CrAzYcLuB ![]() Winston | |
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| No Longer a Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Riverview, Florida
Posts: 4,953
| Dear mayor. I am not a citizen of your city or even your state, however, I just had to speak my peace on the matter of the animal shelter situation. Obviously you are not a dog lover. I would assume you have never been in love with any animal or been loved my one. You made a pretty selfish and uneducated decision last week and I am assuming you did not consult any other organization to assist you. I hope you are as disappointed in your decision to release dogs into the forest as I would hope your entire city is. Why did you even bother to feed and water them? Was it their last supper? SHAME ON YOU. I hope you reconsider running for public office again. How embarrassing for you. Lisa Jamil Tampa, Fl |
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| No Longer a Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Riverview, Florida
Posts: 4,953
| [THIS MESSAGE IS PENNED TO THOSE MEMBERS OF THE ANIMAL LOVING WORLD WHO HAVE WRITTEN TO OR ABOUT ME] Below is a sampling of the messages that I have been delivered by many of you and some others who were anonymous. This is a sampling of the messages; not a complete listing. Soon, I will be issuing a press release related to the animal control issue in Helena-West Helena, Arkansas. Many of you did not and do not have all of the facts. More importantly, many of you were not constructive in your approach to the situation. As Americans, we are better people than this. We can reach for the higher ground and do so in a way that is conducive to progress. Forget about any of my personal traits. Don't consider my age, sex, height, weight, marital status, race, educational background or anything else about me. Gauge for yourself, whether you believe that fellow citizens should be treated this way. I think not. Granted, I could have handled the animal situation differently; no doubt. Would different have been either right or satisfactory? That, we will never know because different died when the decision was made. Will I handle the situation the same way again? NEVER! However, my approach HAS NOT been tempered by these communications. Actually these communications have hindered the purpose and goals of the Humane Society of the United States by taking the low road. Constructive criticism is a good thing. Name calling gets nothing positive accomplished. |
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| | #29 |
| No Longer a Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Riverview, Florida
Posts: 4,953
| I can not send most of the messages unfortunately due to profanity. He made it a point to send out the messages to everyone because he wittle feelings were hurt by some of the responses! |
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| | #30 |
| No Longer a Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Riverview, Florida
Posts: 4,953
| An Open Letter to and Request for Help From Animal Loving Community Ladies and Gentlemen: Let me begin by apologizing to the good wholesome reasonable and sound minded people of this community who have been dragged into this mess about our animal shelter. I am sincerely sorry that a decision made by me, in the run of the hundreds of decisions I make every day, has brought the wrath of the animal loving world to your front door. Please accept my sincere apology to my friends and neighbors for that. I am sorry. This saga has lasted too long and is a distraction to the good work that has been and is being done in Helena-West Helena, Arkansas. We are a community that has made a major turn-around. We are resilient people. We consolidated two (2) cities about two and one-half years ago and that effort has been marvelous. Few places around the globe can claim to have accomplished such a feat. We have gone from perhaps dim aspirations and dark days to glimmering hopes and glowing dreams. We are on the cusp of an economic jolt in the arm. We have several opportunities being developed which will have a very positive economic impact locally and regionally. We have a strategic plan that has been working quite well. We are putting the finishing touches on a masterplan for downtown development that also considers the entire city's development prospects and needs. Soon, we can expect to build a brand new twenty-one million dollar high school. A new state-of-the-art greenhouse nursing home is on the way. New housing developments are being planned as we speak. The phoenix is here. However, on our animal control issue, we have a failure to communicate. I accept responsibility for that. Our modest shelter was closed, UNLAWFULLY and without proper cause, by a renegade humane society from the southeastern portion of our state. The American Veterinary Medical Association has said this: Ensuring animal welfare is a human responsibility that includes consideration for all aspects of animal well-being, including proper housing, management, nutrition, disease prevention and treatment, responsible care, humane handling, and, when necessary, humane euthanasia. For five (5) months we, as a community, have forced our sanitation workers to live with dogs in the middle of their work space. The shelter was closed and a set of holding pens was placed in the midst of the work area at the sanitation shop. The conditions were not pretty for the dogs; no doubt. The conditions were deplorable for the men and the women who worked there and had no connection with dogs whatsoever other than smelling their feces and other waste daily. The sanitation workers already have not so good working conditions. The placement of the pens in the middle of that work area did not improve those conditions. I have broken no law. I was faced with two (2) bad choices; the choice of evils. Let the dogs go or kill the dogs. I am an animal lover myself. I am no murderer. The bad dogs were killed by the vet. The other dogs were released. The released dogs were neither sick nor harmful. Robert Frost, author of "The Road Not Taken," might have handled this decision better than I did. Sometimes, choosing the road "less traveled by" makes all the difference in ways unexpected. I wish I had said nothing about the St. Francis National Forest. That is what has really caused a fuss. The dogs were set free on Storm Creek Road near the St. Francis National Forest. Our community, unlike many of the suburban sprawl areas, is surrounded by woods; the St. Francis National Forest at the north and the White River Refuge at the south and plenty of thickets and hunting ground in between. Our stray animals deal with forest like conditions daily. It is not unusual for us to see coyotes or wolves in our yards in the late evening and early mornings. During the appropriate season, we see deer, rabbits, squirrels and other wildlife in our yards too. I have received calls, faxes, emails and other communications from Alaska, Arkansas, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, Washington, D.C.; West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming to name a few. Many, if not most, of these people have no real connection to this area. They have not visited for one of our great festivals. We have the Wild Hog Music Fest and Biker Rally each April. We have the Arkansas Delta Family Gospel Festival and Fireworks Show each Memorial Day Weekend. We have the Blues Festival in October of each year on the weekend preceding Columbus Day. We have the Mother's Best Festival and the Jazz Festival as well. They have failed or refused to contribute to the animal shelter drive, which is now underway and has raised $700.00. They do not pay any taxes or fees that support our community. These people do not help build roads, parks or community centers in our hometown. They do not help us with our education issues or crime problems. But they were free with their insults. I have been called an idiot, a dumb a**, a stupid a**, a cruel f***er, a good ole' boy, a coon; a disgrace to my race; Michael Vick; stupid; backwards; inhumane; an a**hole; asinine and unfit for office just to name a few things. (I guess it is hard to imagine being a good ole' boy and a coon at the same time. I have really arrived; big time). Many do not understand that we have labored for five (5) months since that terrible day in January when the renegade humane society (Ruby Burton) slammed the doors on our shelter. Five (5) months of talk and babble about the "love" of animals and how they would be taken care of and nurtured. All of the dialogue, babble and talk left us in worse condition five (5) months later than we were in January. In January, and prior to that fateful shelter closing day, the animals were housed in a shelter with ventilation and protection from the weather and elements. At our sanitation shop, the animals were kept in pens and kennels outside on the hot asphalt. The animals had no exercise area and no real way of being separated between and among sizes, breeds and conditions. In other words, these animals were inhumanely piled into a cage as directed by Ms. Ruby Burton and her humane society. These animals were taken from not-so perfect conditions to horrible conditions all at the behest of Ruby Burton and her humane society. This same society that wants me arrested for conditions caused, fostered and developed by them! I plan to work with any group of people who are serious about making sure that our animal population receives proper treatment. I hope to soon see a plan for control and management of our animal population. The plan should include spaying and neutering, education of animal control officers, building a shelter that meets national standards, ample volunteer and community support, a good fostering and adoption program; medicines, food and other supplies at the shelter; a serious public awareness campaign and partnering with others to leverage our collective power to make a positive impact. If you have such a plan, please forward it to me at mayorjfvalley@gmail.com or Mayor James F. Valley, CITY OF HELENA-WEST HELENA, P O Box 248, Helena-West Helena, AR 72342; (866)-786-9885 (Personal Assistant and Fax). Your constructive input is requested and encouraged. I have already, working in conjunction with PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) and the national humane society, enrolled two of our employees in the Animal Control Academy to receive proper training and certification in animal control. This is the first step in transitioning from "dog catching" and killing to a full animal control and management program. By the way, we have never had an animal control officer that has received such training. continued |
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