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Sunnie 11-11-2007 09:54 PM

for Dena.. I hope you can read this
 
I don't know if you are able to read this after being suspended, but I hope so. I wrote this in a pm to you then found that you cannot receive PM.s So sorry but I will post it here in hopes that you can read it. If you want to email me, my email is sunnieone@verizon.net

Sonya..

Below is my PM to you, copied and pasted here.:

Hi Dena
I hope you don't mind me writing. I have been following your threads about Natalie and Gracie as well. I can see how frustrated you are because of "all the rules" I just wanted to ask if there is anything I can do to help? Take a breath.. sit back and breathe slowly. Don't let anyone or anything come between you and those babies. Do NOT let them win. I don't know you well, but I have to say that I have always loved to read your threads. You have a wonderful sense of humor and a love for those babies that is like none I have ever seen. You remind me of ME. I guess that is why I enjoy you so much. Please don't let them win. I know it is hard when you feel like no matter what you do, it is the wrong thing. And I know you (or Natalie) don't have time for the wrong thing. But please don't give up. You might not think so now, but your really DO need all the support you can get from everyone here. and you will need it more so in the days to come. Don't deny that to yourself. You need a safe haven to come to when all of the stresses build up. I hope you will please reconsider giving up on YT and your babies.
Much hugs
Sonya

Rusty's Momma 11-11-2007 10:39 PM

I did too...
 
I too had written her a PM BEFORE she was suspended. Not sure if she had time to read it or not so I will post it here as well...
Yesterday, 11:28 PM
Rusty's Momma
& Sweet Sophie's too!!!
Donating Member

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Tuttle, OK
Posts: 1,155 Natalie
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Dena,
I want to send you a few words of advice....
If you continue with your decision to rehome Natalie that could be the WORST & MOST FATAL decision you could make for Natalie.
I saw you with her today....
first of all... you can tell she is your life, what would YOU do without her??
second of all... changing Natalie's enviroment is probably the worst thing you could do for her. Being as little as she is she is more suseptable to Hypoclycemia, changing her surroundings could stress her out and bring this on... this is the blood sugar thing I was telling you about today. I am sure you know what it is...

Please dont make the decision to do this.... it could be the worst one you made and you would never forgive yourself.

I hope that isnt to harsh sounding... I saw her with you today.... SHE needs YOU....
not a stranger.
Angi

Txgurl06 11-11-2007 10:56 PM

i told her the same thing that the best hands nat could be in right now are her hands! She doesnt need to be stressed out.

MyFairLacy 11-12-2007 12:32 AM

I don't understand why she would all of a sudden say she's rehoming them. Even if that thread upset her, I don't see that making someone decide to rehome their dogs. First of all wouldn't Gracie go back to where she got her from and why would she rehome Natalie? I'm assuming those threads were written out of frustration..surely she's not actually going to rehome them

JennS 11-12-2007 01:09 AM

Sorry guys, it sounds a little dramatic to me. :rolleyes:

mizzwanned 11-12-2007 02:08 AM

Why was she suspended?

Superstarkba 11-12-2007 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1511245)
I don't understand why she would all of a sudden say she's rehoming them. Even if that thread upset her, I don't see that making someone decide to rehome their dogs. First of all wouldn't Gracie go back to where she got her from and why would she rehome Natalie? I'm assuming those threads were written out of frustration..surely she's not actually going to rehome them


I agree. :thumbup: :thumbup:

Breny 11-12-2007 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizzwanned (Post 1511286)
Why was she suspended?

I was wondering the same?

LuvMyPrinceKobi 11-12-2007 06:08 AM

I'm guessing because she was complaining about all the "rules" but I don't know. Just my thought ???

littlewhip 11-12-2007 06:15 AM

OMG. I didnt know she was thinking about rehomming:confused: must of not seen that thread:(

jp4m2 11-12-2007 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlewhip (Post 1511551)
OMG. I didnt know she was thinking about rehomming:confused: must of not seen that thread:(

This is the only thing I came across this morning....

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=102610

LunasMomma 11-12-2007 06:31 AM

I don't blame some for being cautious after so many have come here to try and scam. BUT, it could have been investigated in a nice way without all the attacks:cry:

I hope that this pup gets the care that she needs:unlove:

LunasMomma 11-12-2007 06:38 AM

Oh, and I forgot to say---This woman has been up for DAYS on end, caring for and watching over this very sick little girl. If she got defensive and all that, well gee, I wonder WHY:rolleyes: Sleep deprivation tends to get in the way of good judgement and can cause us to say and do things that one wouldn't normally say or do. Maybe she shouldn't have been on YT in that state, but if we were her only resource of support and comfort, it would have been very hard for her to stay away, I'm sure:(

Anyone know why she's suspended?

Amy81 11-12-2007 06:40 AM

i heard that she was suspended for bumping her sale up more than once

chachi 11-12-2007 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy81 (Post 1511594)
i heard that she was suspended for bumping her sale up more than once

You cant get suspended for that. Your thread just gets closed

jp4m2 11-12-2007 06:49 AM

She did post an Xbox and some other things in the Garage Sale section and the rules say you can be suspended if you list things and your not a donating member, maybe this was the reason for the suspension :confused:

LunasMomma 11-12-2007 06:50 AM

That's probably it. Thanks.

chachi 11-12-2007 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jp4m2 (Post 1511611)
She did post an Xbox and some other things in the Garage Sale section and the rules say you can be suspended if you list things and your not a donating member, maybe this was the reason for the suspension :confused:

Oh wow I didnt even think you were capable of posting in that section unless your a donating member. I just thought it wouldnt let you

Amy81 11-12-2007 06:53 AM

Oh Ok. I wasn't really sure.

Rusty's Momma 11-12-2007 07:06 AM

She was a donating member according to her avatar prior to be suspended.

Rusty's Momma 11-12-2007 07:17 AM

yah... I saw that thread as it went down. I can only guess that was maybe a big part of it. There were actually 2-3 threads that got kind of ugly. Noone but admin really knows though why the suspension happened.

Superstarkba 11-12-2007 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chachi (Post 1511621)
Oh wow I didnt even think you were capable of posting in that section unless your a donating member. I just thought it wouldnt let you


I thought the same thing to.

jp4m2 11-12-2007 07:19 AM

Well I guess that explains the suspension....

This whole situation is so sad....I can't help but feel so sorry for little Natalie...I hope she gets the treatment she desperately needs....

TLC 11-12-2007 07:34 AM

This whole thing is very sad.

Does anyone have anyway of getting in touch with Dena???

Poor Natalie DOES need her Mommy to take care of her. I agree that the stress of being placed away from Dena would be very damaging to Natalie.

I have tried to stay out of these threads, BUT I can clearly see that Dena cares for her little ones, that she is completely stressed out and sleep deprived.

Dena, I really hope that you reconsider 'rehoming' - I really hope that was just said b/c of everything you have been put through here.

Natalie needs you. And from what I have see about Grace - It seems that she has made a big impact on little Natalie's life in these few short days. I think they were meant for each other. PLEASE DON'T GIVE THEM AWAY.

I think you need to get some rest and try to put all this 'drama' on YT out of your brain. Natalie needs to go to that Specialist appt. Please bring her and get her evaluated and see where to go from there.

You will be in my prayers and thoughts. :)

Oscar's Mom 11-12-2007 07:49 AM

I think I have seen people that post "good bye" threads get suspended. Maybe if you say you are leaving, admin makes it happen for ya. I hope Dena works all of this out and that Gracie and Natalie have everything they need...whichever way it goes.

ARCHIE 11-12-2007 07:56 AM

I feel bad for both Dena and Natalie and now Gracie but I am going
to say something that might just upset some of you but really don't
mean too.
When I got Buddy I thought about the cost involved. That was a major
thing for me because I would be his only care giver and it was very
important to be sure I could take care of anything that came up in the
way of health issues. I know to always expect the unexpected, so to
speak and you really need to take this into consideration when you
take on ownership of a pet of anykind.
I would love to have another Yorkie for myself and a campanion for
Buddy but I know that IF something should happen in the way of
health (for two) I would find it hard to pay for the help that might be needed
down the road so therefore Buddy is my only pet. I can handle one
but not two and I am aware of that. I do hope that Natalie gets the
help that is so desperately needed and Dena finds a way to fund it.
To me it is so very important to know you can cover the cost of owning
something before you own it and not take ownership lightly because you
never know when something can go wrong and you have to dig deep to
pay for your pet's care. I think this way but I guess not everyone does.
Belive me I have helped as much as I could here on YT but when I see
a Yorkie in need of health care and can't get it because the owner does
not have the funds it just tears me up. That just how I think.

jp4m2 11-12-2007 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLC (Post 1511720)
This whole thing is very sad.

Does anyone have anyway of getting in touch with Dena???

If I remember correctly she did post a e-mail address in the large Natalie thread....

mom2babynatalie@aol.com

KathyinCali 11-12-2007 08:05 AM

mom2babynatalie@aol.com

When I was going through all the posts I came upon one where she posted her e-mail in case anyone would like to contact her?

If anyone does speak to her please tell her I continue to keep Natalie in my prayers...

Blessings,

Oops. Saw someone beat me to it...

nvnvgirl 11-12-2007 08:32 AM

I agree with you. BEFORE you get any pet, you SHOULD think about the expenses involved with caring for them and the "what if's?"....but a lot of times, we somehow get into situations that just come up out of the blue, and act with our hearts instead of our heads. Of course, that isn't the RATIONAL or RESPONISIBLE thing to do, but sometimes things just happen that way. And we find a way to work with it. I'm like you; I'd love to have another Yorkie; a companion for Max; partly b/c I just believe that everything should have at least one other of it's own around to interact with and partly b/c they're such wonderful, joyous and joyful companions. But I KNOW that now is not the right time b/c we'd be spending money on a dog that we should be spending on other things and if anything came up health-wise, it would be a huge strain. BUT...I only know that b/c of having Max. When I got him, the things that might happen, were totally unbeknownst to me. The circumstances just happened, and I'd die trying to save him. I think it's like anything else, or like having a child; (which I've never had). But you never realize the scope of care and knowledge you SHOULD have before you get one, but once you have taken the responsibility on and fallen in love with them, and they with you, you'll do ANYTHING in your power to be the best guardian that you can possibly be. So, yeah, sometimes we do screw up, sometimes we use our hearts instead of our heads, and sometimes we need other people's compassion and even their help. But that's what life is all about; living our own best life, helping those who need it but are willing to help themselves, and protecting those that we love.
I don't know why I feel like I need to defend Dena, and maybe she violated some of the rules here; I don't know anything about that, b/c I don't sell anything, but she wasn't asking for a handout. She was selling stuff (someone suggested a 'garage sale', as if she was making no sacrifice of her own....correct me if I"m wrong, but isn't selling stuff on the internet kind of a high-tech type of "garage sale"? and how did the person know that she WASN'T having a physical garage sale to sell at her home:confused: ). And for the people who questioned how she was able to spend so much money on those dog clothes she had for sale; I was under the impression that they weren't all HERS, they were donated or something?
Anyhow, I think maybe the way it all went down irked some people, but I don't believe she's trying to scam anyone. And I think if someone irks you, just don't read their posts. Nobody forces you to read or respond to everything. There's people here who irk me too, whining about their poor pitiful lives day after day.....when there's people with no roof over their head and children dying of starvation (and their mothers have to witness it and be able to do nothing to save them:( ), and scores of dolphins being clubbed to death:rolleyes: .....there's an "ignore" button here and you can hit it and never see another post from those people. Can't we just try to be a little bit better people than we NEED to be and have a litte compassion for someone who may not have made the wisest of choices in life, but geeze, Louise....who here has never made an unwise decision in their life? Be nice...nice is good (and you sleep a whole lot better at night).






Quote:

Originally Posted by ARCHIE (Post 1511764)
I feel bad for both Dena and Natalie and now Gracie but I am going
to say something that might just upset some of you but really don't
mean too.
When I got Buddy I thought about the cost involved. That was a major
thing for me because I would be his only care giver and it was very
important to be sure I could take care of anything that came up in the
way of health issues. I know to always expect the unexpected, so to
speak and you really need to take this into consideration when you
take on ownership of a pet of anykind.
I would love to have another Yorkie for myself and a campanion for
Buddy but I know that IF something should happen in the way of
health (for two) I would find it hard to pay for the help that might be needed
down the road so therefore Buddy is my only pet. I can handle one
but not two and I am aware of that. I do hope that Natalie gets the
help that is so desperately needed and Dena finds a way to fund it.
To me it is so very important to know you can cover the cost of owning
something before you own it and not take ownership lightly because you
never know when something can go wrong and you have to dig deep to
pay for your pet's care. I think this way but I guess not everyone does.
Belive me I have helped as much as I could here on YT but when I see
a Yorkie in need of health care and can't get it because the owner does
not have the funds it just tears me up. That just how I think.


GinosMommy 11-12-2007 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvnvgirl (Post 1511813)
I agree with you. BEFORE you get any pet, you SHOULD think about the expenses involved with caring for them and the "what if's?"....but a lot of times, we somehow get into situations that just come up out of the blue, and act with our hearts instead of our heads. Of course, that isn't the RATIONAL or RESPONISIBLE thing to do, but sometimes things just happen that way. And we find a way to work with it. I'm like you; I'd love to have another Yorkie; a companion for Max; partly b/c I just believe that everything should have at least one other of it's own around to interact with and partly b/c they're such wonderful, joyous and joyful companions. But I KNOW that now is not the right time b/c we'd be spending money on a dog that we should be spending on other things and if anything came up health-wise, it would be a huge strain. BUT...I only know that b/c of having Max. When I got him, the things that might happen, were totally unbeknownst to me. The circumstances just happened, and I'd die trying to save him. I think it's like anything else, or like having a child; (which I've never had). But you never realize the scope of care and knowledge you SHOULD have before you get one, but once you have taken the responsibility on and fallen in love with them, and they with you, you'll do ANYTHING in your power to be the best guardian that you can possibly be. So, yeah, sometimes we do screw up, sometimes we use our hearts instead of our heads, and sometimes we need other people's compassion and even their help. But that's what life is all about; living our own best life, helping those who need it but are willing to help themselves, and protecting those that we love.
I don't know why I feel like I need to defend Dena, and maybe she violated some of the rules here; I don't know anything about that, b/c I don't sell anything, but she wasn't asking for a handout. She was selling stuff (someone suggested a 'garage sale', as if she was making no sacrifice of her own....correct me if I"m wrong, but isn't selling stuff on the internet kind of a high-tech type of "garage sale"? and how did the person know that she WASN'T having a physical garage sale to sell at her home:confused: ). And for the people who questioned how she was able to spend so much money on those dog clothes she had for sale; I was under the impression that they weren't all HERS, they were donated or something?
Anyhow, I think maybe the way it all went down irked some people, but I don't believe she's trying to scam anyone. And I think if someone irks you, just don't read their posts. Nobody forces you to read or respond to everything. There's people here who irk me too, whining about their poor pitiful lives day after day.....when there's people with no roof over their head and children dying of starvation (and their mothers have to witness it and be able to do nothing to save them:( ), and scores of dolphins being clubbed to death:rolleyes: .....there's an "ignore" button here and you can hit it and never see another post from those people. Can't we just try to be a little bit better people than we NEED to be and have a litte compassion for someone who may not have made the wisest of choices in life, but geeze, Louise....who here has never made an unwise decision in their life? Be nice...nice is good (and you sleep a whole lot better at night).



I agree.... I wish Natalie and Dena the best...I hope she continues to find the best care for her out there.

Stay strong Dena!


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