Seems like the entire situation was more dramatic than it needed to be. I don't get "Goodbye YT" threads, especially if you don't actually leave, haha.

i have been in touch with dena through email and she told me to tell you guys that your stuff will be out over the next week or so.

she said she feels that rehoming is the best sine she doesnt have the funds for nat.

I told her that since she showed proof (xray, met up with angie(rustys mom) and posted a pic and you could see nats blue ears) then i said that after that the fund could have continued. but everything had already escaladed

if there is anything you guys want me to tell her i will tell her for yall

Sorry....something else just hit me too.....and Archie, it tears me up (as I think it does most members here) to see any animal suffering and not be able to receive the care they need. Even if you THINK you're prepared for whatever might possibly happen to a pet, I don't think most people are prepared for something as catastrophic as in Natalie's case. Kind of like if, after thinking you can afford to have a child and believing you've made the best of provisions, the child needs a heart transplant; or gets some type of cancer. The bills can be ASTRONOMICAL, and with vet care, it's not as well-represented and I don't think there's as much service capping, so they basically have you over a barrel; they can and will, charge you whatever they want to. Some things you just can't plan for.
I'm not taking umbrage with you; I'm just trying to point out some things that we should keep in mind. Not everybody has unlimited funds and most people operate on a budget of some sort. Setting aside a "slush fund" for your pet is a great idea, but when it can run into the thousands and thousands of dollars, and you need to know NOW if and how you can pay for the care, well, some people just aren't equipped to come up with that large of a sum at the drop of a hat. I would think that your mind goes into the "fight or flight" response at that point.
I hope I NEVER have to sit in an Emergency Vet Clinic again and hear the front office staff ask someone who can't instantaneously come up with an extra $1000 for treatment for their pet "well, do you want us to put her down then?".....:eek: . How would they feel if they brought their child into the ER and couldn't come up with the few thousand it costs immediately and the Dr. asked "well, would you like us to put her down?". Perspective, perspective, I know...but walk a mile in the other peson's shoes; your perspective changes!

Wow i haven't been on in awhile and must've missed alot! so are her dogs not eating and that's why she is wanting to rehome them??

but no one was denying their help to her!!! all everyone wanted was a little proof which anyone should do if they want help. So saying that she gave proof but it seems it was too late because everything had became chaotic!

no one of her pups has a enlarged heart with fluid around it and the vet bills im sure are gonna be sky high!

email that was just sent
(me)
hey i just thought you would want to know everyone is wondering about you they made a thread asking about you.


(Dena) That's sweet, thanks.... we're okay....
I'm going to take some jewelry to the pawn shop this afternoon and see if I can sell it for Nat's trip to the hospital tomorrow... and I need to run by the post office...
Other than that, we're having a pretty lazy day... I don't want to wear her out too much, she's got a big day tomorrow!

Thanks as always ::big hug::

Dena

Another argument for pet insurance...I know it doesn't cover every potential problem and certainly doesn't pay all the bills, but every bit would help... Watching this whole saga unfold has really made me stop procrastinating and get the darn insurance. :rolleyes:

And isn't it a little odd to be desperately trying to get medical help for a beloved pet like Natalie, no matter what, and then do such a 180 and state that you are just going to rehome her (and her sister). :confused:

I hope Natalie gets taken care of , whatever her needs are... I'm just saying... :idontknow

I know exactally what your talking about. I sat in the ER and thought Buddy
was going to die two years ago, all unexpectally. The cost was $2,200.00
I live on a budget, am widowed and paniced. Believe me but was so thankful
he pulled through. I took the money out of my pension, paid a large penilty
and will work an additonal two years to get it back. So I do no what it
is like to have the unexpected illness hit you. You find a way somehow
but you do. I hope Dena finds a way when she gives it more thought and
does not re-home Natalie. Natalie needs her.

So is she still taking Natalie to see the Specialist on Tuesday???

If she is truly going to rehome the girls, she should return Grace to the home she came from. I am sure that the original Mom would want her back to be able to place her herself in a home that she feels most comfortable with.

And Natalie, being that she is so sick and needs Specialist Care, she should truly start to contact Yorkie Rescues, as they would be the BEST bet in being able to get Nat the care that she needs.

Tell her this please. Tell her that I don't mean to sound mean, but these are my suggestions and these are suggestions coming from putting Natalie and Grace first and foremost.

I hope everything works out for Nat. But I really do feel that if Dena can't provide for Natalie, than Natalie's BEST chance at surviving life is through the help of Yorkie Rescues.

Tell her they are all in my prayers. :(

i will post your note TLC

But if yall want me to tell her anything its got to be nice (not saying yours wasnt TLC) just saying that im not gonna email her a bunch of mean stuff.

but other then that i will let her know.

Thanks. I didn't want to sound mean at all. I like Dena and I feel so horrible that she is in this 'place' right now with her girls. I can only imagine how heart wrenching it is.

I just wanted to say that I was making suggestions based on Natalie and Grace. Ya know? If I were Gracie's first Mom - I'd want her back, I'd want to be the one to 'rehome' her (again).

And I am really 'into' Yorkie Rescue and they do put the Yorkie's needs first. I suggested that b/c 'if' Dena truly can not financially take care of little Nat's needs, well then, a Yorkie Rescue might be Natalie's only place of help.

Again, I hope that what I am saying is not mean, it's not meant to be at all.
It's just the reality - at least how I happen to see it.

Again, I want nothing more than the very BEST for the little girls and for Dena.

Always in my prayers :(

Thanks!

You're so right. I've been procrastinating on this too, and it really makes you think with all the weird stuff that is going on out there (air-borne stuff, I mean).
For the record, it wasn't MY pet that the ER wanted to put to sleep, I just happened to be there with Max and overheard it and was absolutely dumbfounded that they'd take such a cavalier attitude...not "let's see how we can work with you"; it just struck me as so mercenary and heartless. Which is NOT the feeling I want when I'm dealing with a sick helpless pet! (This is really a whole other issue).

I don't understand the rehoming either...maybe she's just feeling overwhelmed right now with everything and all the negativity that's been associated with it. I would imagine that when it all first started and a lot of people jumped on the bandwagon to help her, then it kind of grew and grew, then some people started questioning everything, which took on a life of IT'S own; it probably really brought her down and made her question whether she was a good mama or not. At least, I think that's how I'D feel if it were me. You know, how everything is so stressful and you're so worried, but it seems like you've got all this support to help you thru,and everyone's being so nice and on your side; so you think you can handle it and then all of a sudden, your worthiness is brought into question and you're being vilified by some people. When you're under a lot of stress and haven't had much sleep, things get blown out of proportion and seem much more sinister than they really are.

Txgrl~ I know, nobody was denying her help, and just wanted a little bit of reassurance, but you're right; things just got so chaotic that it went very sour. Such a shame. I know there's a lot of very nice, caring and trusting souls here who are willing to help anyone in need.

And Kyle~ Yes, there was a little more drama than normal, but you know how momentum and no sleep go together? NOT. Making light of someone's pain is NOT cool either. I know that's not the kind of person you are.

But in general i would hope that if i needed help i would get help but i know that when doing this you have to be an open book. you need to post stuff that shows. Its just being considerate when people are helping you.

If Anyone Wants Updates On Nat And Gracie Pm Me Your Email And I Will Send Them To You

I think I missed all the drama but after reading here it all sounds so sad. I'm so sorry for her and her babies that everything went down the way it did here and I pray that she getts it all worked out without rehoming them. That sick baby will need her and will only be thrown out of sorts and stressed to be rehomed now. :(

As far as not having a pet if you can't afford the unexpected emergencies that may come up...well, all I can say is that life is ever changing and while you may be in a place to cover those things when you get your pet doesn't mean that a few yaers down the road your life will still be in that same position. I have 2 furbabies and was in more than a good position to care for thier every need and then some a year ago but if we had an emergency right now I don't know what I would do. Sometimes life throws you curves and many times you just can't know what's around the corner or if you will be able to handle it.

My thoughts and prayers are with her and her babies...

I only feel sorry for Natalie and Gracie in this case. Please correct me if I am wrong. Wasnt Natalie purchased after the car wreck and Gracie purchased after the room-mate got layed off? So, knowing that funds were going to be super tight, she went out and purchased Natalie and then after knowing that Natalie had medical problems, purchased, with sounds like her last dollar, Gracie. Can this woman not take responsiblity for herself? She had plenty of other dogs at that time and her room-mate also has dogs with puppies. Did she really need to purchase more? It doesnt look like any forthought or research was done before purchasing a Yorkie. Natalies breeder must only have been breeding for the $$ and didnt care what he/she produced. My vet would have taken an x-ray first thing, knowing the problems t-cups have and not waited around. Gracies breeder is very nice in offering her money back, but Dena didnt take her up on it. None of the great suggestions by all the YTrs worked for her. Its hard to believe that she couldnt even get a loan from her family. I believe she is a little drama queenish. I would never post pictures (if I could) of my very sick Yorkie knowing that it would pull at all the YTers heart strings. To me, that is just a round about way, with out asking, for donations. I would have just posted my problem and asked for suggestions. Then, if people wanted to donate, great!
JMO: Maybe Natalie and Gracie would be better off if they were re-homed.

but when you do want help you people do decide to donate you do need to post pics, and stuff proving something is wrong! thats the best and honest thing you should do. JMO
The things you posted aboves is why Yters wanted proof

If I were gracies breeder I would be concerned about selling her unspayed to someone who pratices unethical breeding..JMO
:thumbup: I agree with everything you wrote.
I feel the pictures were posted to do just that,and that is what got me questioning her actions.
I really feel she wasn't being truthful about the puppies on NDP ,she has a footer in her emails from there that clearly states her name with a slogan "Matching people with paws"
I hope the best for Natalie and Gracie.
Sandy if you are reading this was Gracie spayed? And were you aware of the breeding going on?

The people that seriously want to donate could just PM her and get all the details, pictures, doctor bills there. She didnt need to post a minute by minute account of how she hasnt slept for 5 days or how many times she feeds and medicates or how many doctor calls she made or her whole life story of why she doesnt have any money, etc.

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