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Collapse Trach or reverse sneezing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDWiKKw-jLg Can't figure out how to put this on correctly... What do you all think? |
To me, that sounds like reverse sneezing. It's just like what Jake does. He did it at the vet one time, and he told me it was reverse sneezing. Jake only does it when he gets really excited though. |
Thanks ! I have wondered about this for a long time.. |
When Jake first did it, I was so scared of collapsed trachea. I asked the breeder about it (we've become friends and stay in touch:) ) and she said it sounded like reverse sneezing. Jake had to go in for a checkup and he did it at the vet's office and that's what the vet said it is. I was so relieved!:) |
Collapse of trachea? Any comments? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[media=Ralph]gDWiKKw-jLg[/media I think this is the video--any other comments from those who have had this or do have collapsing tracheas would be appreciated. |
Collapse of trachea? Any comments? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
I think this is the video--any other comments from those who have had this or do have collapsing tracheas would be appreciated. |
I took Lola in scared that she had a collapsed trachea because she always made a backwards sneezing sound....and I then learned about the reverse sneezing from my vet. My vet said that a collapsed trachea sounds like goose honking. Lola reverse sneezes a lot and it sounds like a sneeze more so than a honking. Your little baby sounds like she is making more of a goose honking to me than Lola's sneezing noise. Only a vet would be able to tell you for sure though:) Keep us posted! |
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Luna does this although her "episodes" are a little more severe and my vet told me that its reverse sneezing it really gets bad during the spring months because of all the pollen and stuff in the air. |
I'm no expert but it sounds like collapsed trachea, the all too familiar honking noise. What does her vet say? How old is she and how long has she been doing this? My 1st yorkie had this, but the vet said it was worse because he was overweight. Yours doesn't look overweight, how much does she weigh? Usually if you pick them up and sooth their necks(throat) with a light massage it will ease it, and try to keep her calm, not to get overexcited. Sure do wish you well, and I hope I'm wrong and that it is indeed reverse sneezing. |
Hi, My Chloe has a collapsed trac and she sounds just like your baby. She is six years old. She got it when she was about 3 years old. I am not sure your little one has the same thing..If your vet says its something else, she should know. If you have any questions, let me know. Good luck with her. :bighug: to your little one. |
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What have you done to cure this prolem? Ralphie is not over weight at all. Sometimes, I give him a Benedryl, and he seems to get better. |
Katy, sorry I kept calling your little boy a she, I didn't know. Accept my apologies, and I really hope all is well with your little guy, Ralphie... |
call me crazy but what would cause a collapsed trachea? maggie does this noise once in a great while but nothing has ever happened to her to cause a collapsed trach. she goes in fits...she will do this noise (exactly what is like in the video) for a few minutes and it will sometimes last for a few hours...not a constant noise but doing it every few minutes or so... she has never been walked on a leash. not one single time. and I dont know that anything has ever happened to her for her trach to collapse. she is with me 24/7. I would also think that if it were a collapsed trach, it would happen consistently and not just once in a while. ???? this is very interesting.....I am curious to hear what a "reverse sneeze" sounds like in comparison to this "collapsed trachea" condition. |
To me that sounds like reverse sneezing. My lil guy has a collapsed trachea and his is more raspy, kind of goose honk (not so much), and he hacks at the end. And it happens more in fits/episodes. he is better now but still has little episodes, especially when the weather gets dry and cold (in winter). Here's a link of how my guy sounded like, he had pneumonia/bronchitis too, and that was the catalyst for his CT. You can best see CT through an x-ray. http://www.dropshots.com/day.php?userid=217491&cdate=20061211&ctime=144216 CT is hereditary (from what I have been told) if you do a search on YT you'll find TONS and TONS of info as it is common in smaller breeds. There are varying degrees of CT, and so with some you may never know he/she has it. Also here's another link of more info on CT, it was given to me by another YT'er: http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Con...=1&SourceID=42 btw .. you're lil one is SO CUTE!! i hope nothing is wrong and it is just reverse sneezing! |
oh, i see. thank you for sharing that info. very helpful. |
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When Roxy was at the Specialist for her LP surgery I told the Dr. about the noise. The Dr. pressed her throat and Roxy started to make the noise. She said Roxy does have CT. They did an x-ray of her throat and chest before the LP surgery to see 'how bad' the CT was. But in a resting postition, her T was ok. So the Dr. said it is just mild. But I don't know...:confused: :confused: :confused: That video of Ralphie is EXACTLY - EVERYTHING ABOUT IT (same loud noise, same posture, etc...) what Roxy does She used to do it alot when she was excited, now she does it for no reason. A couple of weeks ago, she was doing it all night and once I got her to stop make the loud noise, her throat was still in a spasm, I kept rubbing her throat and it would finally stop and we'd fall alseep, only to be awoken by the loud noise again. It went on at least 10 x during the night. The next morning I was on another group who told me to cool down her pressure points (under arms and belly). Since Roxy needed a bath anyway, I shaved down her belly and arm pits and put her in the bath. After the bath and breathing in the steam she was fine. PLEASE let me know what your Vet says after he sees the Video. |
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It seems that Chloe's problem has gotten worse over the years but seems to have stabilized now. She also has respitory problems (related to a CT? - I don't know). She has meds for her lungs that she takes every day and a med for coughing when she needs it. When we travel in our RV she does take the cough med every day-it also calms her. Also, when we go for a walk, Chloe and Maddi walk with me, but as soon as I hear Chloe having a problem breathing, in the stroller she goes and she LOVES it. That way we can go for a longer walk and she can socialize with us. My vet loves this part.. Hope this info helps, any more ?'s m let me know. :) |
Thanks for all the responses.. I would also love to see/ hear what reverse sneezing sounds like.. so if there is someone out there with a video.. send it over! I thnk alot of us wonder what our dogs are doing. Ralphie does this at nite..he does it when excited, and when he licks thigs that are dry.. like the bed. He stops often if I can get him to drink water from my fingers..sometimes its worse than this, sometimes not at all. He gets excited when there are dogs outside, and this starts him going. Often if I give him Benedryl he will relax . Any other videos of Trac collapse would be apprecaited on this thread! |
This is EXACTLY what Yogi does, but his is a series of 5-6 in row, one right after the other...Our vet said the sound of a CT and reverse sneezing sound very similiar and the only way to differentiate the two is by x-ray or looking into their trachea with a scope. Our tests were negative on Yogi, he only does it if he's excited or allergy season. He actually wretches with his back legs spread out and its quite sad. He can go for a long period of time without doing it. I can also distract him by saying,"wheres the turtle" he immediately stops and goes and looks for the turtle. Vet also said, thats not a ct if he can just stop...so the real test is letting the vet listen when it happens or having the medical tests to rule out a ct. Yogi had Kennel cough 3 days after we got him and it took a good 3 weeks for him to get over it, so he's got some scar tissue in his trachea supposedly from the extreme coughing...your little guy sounds just like ours here..Benadryl has helped us too. Good luck, little Ralphie is a doll! |
Thanks! Vet said that unless Ralphie is doing it at the time I bring him in.. they can not tell by the X-Ray. has anyone heard any different? I can not stop Ralph once he startes except tp try and get him to drink some water. Any reverse sneeze videos out there?? I think the videos can be a great tool for YT as other can SEE what we are having a problem with, and can comment. Thanks for every ones feedback so far.. Love my little guy, he is a cutie, and I am VERY attached to him.. |
I also heard when they are having an attack to lift their front paws up towards the sky. As a matter of fact, Roxy did 2 honks in a row and I lifted up her front paws and she stopped. It's worth a try :confused: |
I will try that too! |
so here is something i have noticed, luna does this when she gets a hold of something spicy. For example i was eating a burger with jalepeno's on it and i guess i dripped some juice on my shirt she licked it and immdtly started having a "fit". |
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Great thread and the vids really help. |
I agree, this is a great thread, very interesting. Wish someone had a video of the reverse sneezing, I've never heard it before. When Spencer was diagnosed with CT, many years ago, the vet had heard him actually doing it, he was pretty overweight, about 13 pounds, and the vet said it could improve if he loss some weight. Well we got him down to about 10 pounds, and it didn't happen as often, but it was definitely still there. But years later when he started having the lung, and heart problems, you could really see the collapsed trachea on his chest x-rays, poor little guy was really struggling to breath and he "honked" like that a lot more often. He was just 11 years old when he passed away, quietly in his sleep, after a rather bad night. So maybe it depends on how severe it is, as to whether or not it will show up on an x-ray, but I know it was there, I saw the films myself. Any more thoughts, comments or videos would be very helpful!!! |
When kikko has a fit, I rub his chest to comfort him. then I lift his nose toward the sky and open his mouth, this makes him breath through his mouth. This usually stops him. Rini (fellow YTer) also explained to me another way, that's similar to the first few steps of CPR. You "GENTLY PUSH THE HEAD DOWN TOWARD THE CHEST WHILE HOLDING THE NOSE CLOSED. That makes themdraw in a breath thru their mouths and the spasm will ease up and the mucosawill separate." And she also said not to make the CT spasms into a HUGE deal b/c yorkies are smart lil critters, and could 'fake' it to get attention. |
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